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	<title>Comments on: The Return of Some Choose Abstinence, Others Have it Thrust Upon Them</title>
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		<title>By: KevinFromNorthShore</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinFromNorthShore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fascinating point of view from a guy who named a computer language after the star of “Deep Throat”…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating point of view from a guy who named a computer language after the star of “Deep Throat”…</p>
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		<title>By: morleytrunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>morleytrunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Huh uh. But he did barf on the dean.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh uh. But he did barf on the dean.</p>
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		<title>By: JDsg</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn’t this guy “Flounder?”  Flounder could never get laid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t this guy “Flounder?”  Flounder could never get laid.</p>
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		<title>By: xpurg8d</title>
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		<dc:creator>xpurg8d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What’s with this outpouring of “our first times”?&lt;br /&gt;
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Jeeze, nobody said it was our first times.  Often, lots of hot nasty premarital sex with people that didn’t lead to a lasting life-long relationship is why we were able to recognize the right stuff when it came along.  Is that what disturbs you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What’s with this outpouring of “our first times”?<br />
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Jeeze, nobody said it was our first times.  Often, lots of hot nasty premarital sex with people that didn’t lead to a lasting life-long relationship is why we were able to recognize the right stuff when it came along.  Is that what disturbs you?</p>
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		<title>By: gttim</title>
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		<dc:creator>gttim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;His secret was being unbelievably charismatic and fun to be around.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does that describe Gelertner? On a scale of 1 to 10 he might need to be a 11,000 to compensate for his personality. I will rephrase, however, “Butt ugly does not work for many people.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His secret was being unbelievably charismatic and fun to be around.</p>
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<p>Does that describe Gelertner? On a scale of 1 to 10 he might need to be a 11,000 to compensate for his personality. I will rephrase, however, “Butt ugly does not work for many people.”</p>
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		<title>By: dsidhe</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsidhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m a total slut (well, former slut) who uses phrases like “keeping steady company”, but admittedly I do it mostly for ironic effect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I’ll say this again: the sex to which I consented, and there was a great deal of it, never affected me badly. Ever. To the folks who argue that sex will fuck you up good, I have to wonder if the sex is really their problem. It’s like a recovering alcoholic demanding we ban alcohol because it got her fired and ruined her marriage and she wants to save everyone else from this fate. The alcohol is not the problem, and nor is the sex. The solution is not to ban alcohol or sex. You are the problem, and the solution is for you to avoid alcohol or sex unless you can ever get your relationship to it straightened out, which in many cases may not even be possible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a total slut (well, former slut) who uses phrases like “keeping steady company”, but admittedly I do it mostly for ironic effect.</p>
<p>And I’ll say this again: the sex to which I consented, and there was a great deal of it, never affected me badly. Ever. To the folks who argue that sex will fuck you up good, I have to wonder if the sex is really their problem. It’s like a recovering alcoholic demanding we ban alcohol because it got her fired and ruined her marriage and she wants to save everyone else from this fate. The alcohol is not the problem, and nor is the sex. The solution is not to ban alcohol or sex. You are the problem, and the solution is for you to avoid alcohol or sex unless you can ever get your relationship to it straightened out, which in many cases may not even be possible.</p>
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		<title>By: dstatton</title>
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		<dc:creator>dstatton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In my youth I was fortunate enough to have a few good-looking girls come on to me.  What was I supposed to do?  Say “get lost”?   Had that ever happened to Prof. Gelernter, he might be singing a different tune.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A female friend once sent me 50 reasons why it’s better to be a guy.  Two I remember:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your best friend will never try to talk you out of having sex with someone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You don’t have to actually like someone to have really good sex.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my youth I was fortunate enough to have a few good-looking girls come on to me.  What was I supposed to do?  Say “get lost”?   Had that ever happened to Prof. Gelernter, he might be singing a different tune.</p>
<p>A female friend once sent me 50 reasons why it’s better to be a guy.  Two I remember:</p>
<p>Your best friend will never try to talk you out of having sex with someone.</p>
<p>You don’t have to actually like someone to have really good sex.</p>
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		<title>By: paulbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the Paper Lion comparison fails: after all Plimpton, suited up and played the game. Not sure I can say that for the Prof above. It’s a shame these folks continue to demonstrate that their beliefs are founded on the idea that someone, somewhere, is having more fun than they are. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the hand-love jokes are a little harsh: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/19627&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he lost the use of his right hand&lt;/a&gt; when the Unabomber sent him a package.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Paper Lion comparison fails: after all Plimpton, suited up and played the game. Not sure I can say that for the Prof above. It’s a shame these folks continue to demonstrate that their beliefs are founded on the idea that someone, somewhere, is having more fun than they are. </p>
<p>And the hand-love jokes are a little harsh: <a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/19627" rel="nofollow">he lost the use of his right hand</a> when the Unabomber sent him a package.</p>
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		<title>By: makeitstop</title>
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		<dc:creator>makeitstop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay, okay, okay; it took only 3 dates until waves crashed upon the shore, but 17 years later and love the hubby even more.  teh hawt sex is still there too.  Fun, fun, fun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, okay, okay; it took only 3 dates until waves crashed upon the shore, but 17 years later and love the hubby even more.  teh hawt sex is still there too.  Fun, fun, fun.</p>
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		<title>By: kenga</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You want an outpouring of most recent times?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want an outpouring of most recent times?</p>
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