The New York Times:
There are too many moments these days when we cannot recognize our country. Sunday was one of them, as we read the account in The Times of how men in some of the most trusted posts in the nation plotted to cover up the torture of prisoners by Central Intelligence Agency interrogators by destroying videotapes of their sickening behavior. It was impossible to see the founding principles of the greatest democracy in the contempt these men and their bosses showed for the Constitution, the rule of law and human decency.
It was not the first time in recent years we’ve felt this horror, this sorrowful sense of estrangement, not nearly. This sort of lawless behavior has become standard practice since Sept. 11, 2001.
So we hired Bill Kristol who excuses it.
The country and much of the world was rightly and profoundly frightened by the single-minded hatred and ingenuity displayed by this new enemy. But there is no excuse for how President Bush and his advisers panicked — how they forgot that it is their responsibility to protect American lives and American ideals, that there really is no safety for Americans or their country when those ideals are sacrificed.
Like Bill Kristol’s friend Scooter Libby who destroyed Valerie Plames’ career studying weapon proliferation.
Out of panic and ideology, President Bush squandered America’s position of moral and political leadership, swept aside international institutions and treaties, sullied America’s global image, and trampled on the constitutional pillars that have supported our democracy through the most terrifying and challenging times. These policies have fed the world’s anger and alienation and have not made any of us safer.
In the years since 9/11, we have seen American soldiers abuse, sexually humiliate, torment and murder prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq. A few have been punished, but their leaders have never been called to account. We have seen mercenaries gun down Iraqi civilians with no fear of prosecution. We have seen the president, sworn to defend the Constitution, turn his powers on his own citizens, authorizing the intelligence agencies to spy on Americans, wiretapping phones and intercepting international e-mail messages without a warrant.
And outing CIA agents…which Bill Kristol supports.
We have read accounts of how the government’s top lawyers huddled in secret after the attacks in New York and Washington and plotted ways to circumvent the Geneva Conventions — and both American and international law — to hold anyone the president chose indefinitely without charges or judicial review.
Those same lawyers then twisted other laws beyond recognition to allow Mr. Bush to turn intelligence agents into torturers, to force doctors to abdicate their professional oaths and responsibilities to prepare prisoners for abuse, and then to monitor the torment to make sure it didn’t go just a bit too far and actually kill them.
The White House used the fear of terrorism and the sense of national unity to ram laws through Congress that gave law-enforcement agencies far more power than they truly needed to respond to the threat — and at the same time fulfilled the imperial fantasies of Vice President Dick Cheney and others determined to use the tragedy of 9/11 to arrogate as much power as they could.
This amuses Bill Kristol.
Hundreds of men, swept up on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, were thrown into a prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, so that the White House could claim they were beyond the reach of American laws. Prisoners are held there with no hope of real justice, only the chance to face a kangaroo court where evidence and the names of their accusers are kept secret, and where they are not permitted to talk about the abuse they have suffered at the hands of American jailers.
This gives Bill Kristol an erection.
In other foreign lands, the C.I.A. set up secret jails where “high-value detainees” were subjected to ever more barbaric acts, including simulated drowning. These crimes were videotaped, so that “experts” could watch them, and then the videotapes were destroyed, after consultation with the White House, in the hope that Americans would never know.
This makes Bill Kristol ejaculate.
The C.I.A. contracted out its inhumanity to nations with no respect for life or law, sending prisoners — some of them innocents kidnapped on street corners and in airports — to be tortured into making false confessions, or until it was clear they had nothing to say and so were let go without any apology or hope of redress.
Bill Kristol thinks you have to break a few eggs to make a freedom omelet.
These are not the only shocking abuses of President Bush’s two terms in office, made in the name of fighting terrorism. There is much more — so much that the next president will have a full agenda simply discovering all the wrongs that have been done and then righting them.
We can only hope that this time, unlike 2004, American voters will have the wisdom to grant the awesome powers of the presidency to someone who has the integrity, principle and decency to use them honorably. Then when we look in the mirror as a nation, we will see, once again, the reflection of the United States of America.
On the other hand, here at the Times, we’ll see Bill Kristol’s sickly face smirking back at us. If we had any integrity it would make us feel dirty.
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congradulations, you get a gold star for that one. Now you can go celebrate the new year with the __________ and ____________ Ms. Tbogg.
I tried to leave a comment at the Times, saying “great editorial; now why did you hire Bill Kristol, who doubtless approved of every single thing you disapprove of in the editorial?”
My comment was never posted.
Does not give me hope for the future.
Happy New Year, everybody.
The Bush Administration’s legacy to the nation will undoubtedly include the world’s largest case of societal cognitive dissonance. This is just one example.
Gee, they hope that all us dumbfucks “will have the wisdom to grant the awesome powers of the presidency to someone who has the integrity, principle and decency to use them honorably”? WTF, do they think we’re psychic and can just divine who this person is? You know, since the NYT sure as hell isn’t going to lift a finger to help us better know what they stand for or hope to accomplish.
Gosh, it seems like it was only 7 short years ago they were telling us that it really didn’t matter who was president, that we should support and look up to the guy we’d like to have a beer with and give noogies to that boring stiff serious guy….
The point that needs to be made is that we’re not pissed at people like Bush and Kristol for failing to adopt our liberal ideology; we’re pissed because they don’t even adhere to conservative principles.
The NYT is letting us know that they’ve heard our complaints, and they hope we’ll be satisfied with a nice handwringing, platitude-spouting editorial. Meanwhile, while we’re distracted by another presidential election conducted via media coverage of the candidates’ hair and voice tones and church attendance, they can get on with the business of helping Dick Cheney plunder the world for cash.
Hey, the NYT had no problem with Judy Miller not only serving as one of the White House’s favored stenographers, but actually hijacking an American military unit just to please her good friend Ahmad Chalabi.
yeah, tell me about it.
My girlfriend has been talking about getting a subscription to the Times f
I hope the Times gets hammered so hard they’re forced to drop kristol. Preferably from the top of a very tall building with a cinderblock strapped tightly around his neck.
ouch, some text got deleted.
that should say “My girlfriend has been talking about getting a subscription to the Times for the Sunday edition, but upon hearing about this hire has decided against it.”
This amuses Bill Kristol…
I’m beginning to sense a theme here.
Hey, the Times just wrote Bill’s first op-ed column for him. “The New York Times editorial board continues to carp at the Bush Administration, at a time when victory in Iraq is at hand, etc. etc. etc.” (Cue batrachoid smirk and wink toward camera, while cashing handsome paycheck with Sulzberger’s name on it.)
Back in the mid-1980s, when the Times gave over regular Op-Ed space to frothing neocon (and former Editor) Abe Rosenthal, Alex Cockburn wrote that Rosenthal’s column, “will be an added burden to our lives.”
Plus ca change….
Thought one of my comments hadn’t been posted either, but I checked back and it’s up there now. Oh, and the most “recommended” comments are the ones that lambast them for hiring Kristol!
I canceled my subscription. Not because they hired this amoral, self-satisfied and deeply unkind man to share his warped worldview–that is certainly their right–and not because I’m “afraid” of opposing viewpoints. I canceled because continuing to pay for a subscription would, in my mind, be no different than voting against my own self-interest. Why would I support, in even the tiniest of ways, the propagation of views that I find deeply deceitful, offensive, anti-American and subhuman? The NYT has been in steady decline for the past decade. This was just the final incident that convinced me they no longer are interested in journalistic integrity or even in basic relevancy. They can claim to be giving voice to the other side, but if that was the goal, they certainly could have chosen any number of better qualified, more universally respected and less offensive options than Bill Kristol. Again, it is certainly their right to lower their standards to attract anti-intellectual mass readership, as it is mine not to want to be counted in this apparent target group. With Murdoch in charge of the WSJ, do we really need another outlet for right wing propaganda? The NYT is attempting to fill a gap that doesn’t exist, leaving one with a single possible explanation–they are pandering for low level Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck-ish readers. Let ‘em pander. God bless them, I’m sure they’ll do just fine without my subscription. I canceled for me–not for them.
The media seems to think they are supposed to supply both, or many, sides to a story. They seem to have forgotten that they are actually supposed to supply the truth. Of course, that would require actual reporters. Op-ed writers frequently lie to present their side of an issue.
We had an op-ed writer at the AJC who I caught in many lies on her articles. She was supposedly not only a wingnut, but a strong Christian! I documented her lies and began emailing them to all the editors, and submitted them as LTE’s. Several were printed in the paper. Others were complaining of the same thing. She soon was relieved of her op-ed duties. A few other frequent guest contributors were treated the same and seem to have vanished.
Everybody should do the same with the NYT’s op-ed writers. Document not opinions, but lies that can be documented. Email, send LTE’s and widely distribute. The NYT’s may not care, but you never know.
I sent this yesterday to the Times. Wonder if I get a response?
Once a great newspaper
Dear Mr. Sulzberger,
I am writing this not because I seriously expect you to read it or respond, but to have my say as a citizen of this great nation who has been appalled over the direction our county has taken in the past eight years. To name but one, the Times’ hiring of William Kristol is but another example of a great newspaper giving a mantle of legitimacy to a political writer who has not only been wrong on virtually every topic he has written about, but also has put the nation at great risk by perpetuating the lies and misinformation that has been the hallmark of this administration. Surely there must be some conservative writers who still have a modicum of legitimacy who would be willing to write for the Times. If you are dead set on having another conservative talking head (besides Tom Friedman who has managed to fill that role through his equally idiotic musings on U.S. foreign policy), it would be advisable to keep searching for a conservative who has been right at least 50% of the time. Even a chimpanzee can guess correctly that often.
I don’t need to remind you that the First Amendment is FIRST because it is the most important right we possess as Americans. The mess this country finds itself in right now is, in my humble opinion, the direct result of the main stream media’s failure to investigate and report on facts, not opinions. The money that is going to Kristol, Friedman, and hell, the whole lot of them for their stupid, misguided opinions, would be far better spent hiring investigative journalists to ferret out the truth and report on what they find to readers such as myself. Exactly why is this no longer happening they way it once did? This is what newspapers are supposed to do and precisely why they were given such significant protections in the Constitution. Kristol doesn’t need the First Amendment to protect his opinions from stunning stupidity. I don’t think anyone will be suing or threatening him with jail for writing that George Bush was our greatest president, well, ever. Perhaps questioning his sanity, but certainly not suing. In the meantime, the rest of us are left to our own devices to figure out what is going on.
If you want to hire an opinion writer, I would be happy to volunteer. I feel I am certainly more qualified than Kristol. For example, I predicted in an office betting pool that the military would find no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that Osama bin Laden would not be captured, that George Bush would ignore Congress until his back was against the wall, and well, you get the idea. I think I have an established track record far better then Kristol or Friedman, and I will work for free. The only caveat would be that any moneys normally paid to me be directed to hiring a team of investigative journalists to do what I am not very good at, investigating the government officials and their political operatives who are responsible for this mess. If you are interested, feel free to contact me at your earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
sls
I’m looking forward to, two days after a democrat is elected, the NYT editorial about how we need to put the partisanship of the Bush Years behind us, and to spend no time in partisan witch hunts over what Bush may have done, and to, in a bipartisan spirit, vow to work together towards the future for the sake of all Americans rather than engaging in another four years of partisan blame games and politically-motivated partisan investigations. In a bipartisan way! Bipartisanship!!
It’s such a classy routine. Makes me nostalgic for the boyfriend who once said, “I know we’ve had our troubles, and we were both thoughtless and hurt each other, and no one wants to go back to that, so let’s just make a new start and stop blaming each other for not doing the laundry or sleeping with your best friend or whatever.”
Meanwhile Mickey Kaus–widely rumored to blow goats–is featured in a BloogingheadsTV feature linked on the online frontpage of the New York Times.
Let’s face it, the Grey Lady is the advanced stages of journalistic stability. She’s still able to look fairly composed most of the time, and some of what she babbles makes good sense. But in a larger sense there’s really nobody home.
Gah….that’s “the Grey Lady is the advanced stages of journalistic senility.”
That’ll teach me to comment before my fist cup of coffee on New Year’s Day!
I find that drinking coffee from a fist cup on New Year’s Day is a good idea. They are easier to hold in those shaky hands we all have after a really crazy night.
Also, I’m pretty sure you meant “the Grey Lady is in the advanced stages of journalistic senility.”
Looks like you need another fist cup. Happy New Year.
I received a reply from the publisher in response to my cancellation. It was predictably dismissive of my stated reasons for canceling, i.e. I felt it was not in my personal best interests to financially support a paper that sanctioned deceit and abusive language. The representative wrote that Mr. Kristol’s column will appear in the OpEd section where “various viewpoints are welcome.” They seem to be unaware that writing an opinion piece for one-time airing is not the same thing as hiring someone with a track record of faulty logic and offensive speech to air their views on a regular basis. Frankly, I don’t much care at this point because the NYT long ago lost its luster, but I am surprised they bothered to write back.
TBogg,
you seem a bright person and a decent enough writer, so why do you need to go so crude with your editorial comments? I am not easily offended by most things, yet, here, it seems that you are needlessly attempting to escalate outrage at Kristol. In a sense, your language distracts from its purpose. It places the focus on you not Kristol’s appalling record. I am a regualr reader at the Lake and now at Emptywheel’s, but, I fear I am not “tough enough” to read your work.
Hmm…. it focused me on Kristol, although the mental image was a bit disturbing.
Are you familiar with Kristol’s work? Have you read it? While tbogg is being somewhat hyperbolic, I’m afraid that it’s disturbingly close to reality.
I have met with Kristol in 1988 when he was with Dan Quayle’s office. He was just as scary then as now. I generally do not go for the conspiracy theory type stuff but, in many ways, his was a precursor for the Cheney “4th branch” administration. When Bush named Quayle as his V.P., I think he wanted a naive dupe so that he could put his (Bush’s) minions in control to run the black ops stuff as he did when he was Reagan’s V.P.. Quayle was by far the stupidest (and least aware) senator of his day. Kristol was his chief of staff.
NTY Responds to subscription cancellation:
Thank you for your e-mail concerning Bill Kristol. We appreciate
your interest and your taking the time to let us know how you feel.
Mr. Kristol’s column will be appearing on the Op-Ed page, where we
offer a range of diverse opinions — often differing from our own editorial
opinions. Given that we are a news organization that believes in
vibrant political discourse, we have brought Mr. Kristol on board after a
long and thoughtful search through the ranks of strong conservative voices.
Will you — or will we — agree with him? Probably not very
often . . . but that is the point of offering multiple views and providing
intellectual diversity. We hope the column will engender open debate and
discussion in the democratic tradition of newspapers. And we hope that you will continue to read and to express your views to us. We very much value your readership.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Catherine Mathis
> SVP, Corporate Communications
> The New York Times Company
Hi–larious, especially the condescending tone implying that they need to school people who object to Mr. Kristol on the democratic process. Here is my note back:
While I appreciate your note, I must say that I feel your editorial staff is ignoring a few salient points:
1.) Writing an opinion piece for one-time airing on their OpEd page is not the same thing as hiring someone with a track record of faulty logic and offensive speech to air their views on a regular basis.
2.) This is about the free market. I don’t much care what your supposed rationale is for hiring him, that is not my concern. My issue is that I don’t want to pay to support the publication of offensive views. I don’t subscribe to the National Review or to skinhead publications for the same reason. It is fundamentally repugnant to me to endorse, through my financial support, offensive and deceitful propaganda, regardless of the venue for publication. This is about MY pocketbook, not YOUR editorial preferences.
Sincerely,