John Hawkins, who pumped so much life into the Duncan Hunter campaign, watches tonight's Democratic debate, filters it through his misty water-colored memories and points out that times sure have changed:
10:27: Any statements of votes you'd like to take back, Obama? I wish I hadn't allowed Congress to get involved in the Terri Schiavo situation. Translation: It's less popular now, so I feel comfortable switching sides and hey, screw you pro-lifers.
Unfortunately Zombie Reality comes back from the dead
The public, by 63 percent-28 percent, supports the removal of Schiavo's feeding tube, and by a 25-point margin opposes a law mandating federal review of her case. Congress passed such legislation and President Bush signed it early today.
That legislative action is distinctly unpopular: Not only do 60 percent oppose it, more -- 70 percent -- call it inappropriate for Congress to get involved in this way. And by a lopsided 67 percent-19 percent, most think the elected officials trying to keep Schiavo alive are doing so more for political advantage than out of concern for her or for the principles involved.
This ABC News poll also finds that the Schiavo case has prompted an enormous level of personal discussion: Half of Americans say that as a direct result of hearing about this case, they've spoken with friends or family members about what they'd want done if they were in a similar condition. Nearly eight in 10 would not want to be kept alive.
In addition to the majority, the intensity of public sentiment is also on the side of Schiavo's husband, who has fought successfully in the Florida courts to remove her feeding tube. And intensity runs especially strongly against congressional involvement.
Included among the 63 percent who support removing the feeding tube are 42 percent who "strongly" support it -- twice as many as strongly oppose it. And among the 70 percent who call congressional intervention inappropriate are 58 percent who hold that view strongly -- an especially high level of strong opinion.
Views on this issue are informed more by ideological and religious views than by political partisanship. Republicans overall look much like Democrats and independents in their opinions.
But two core Republican groups -- conservatives and evangelical Protestants -- are more divided: Fifty-four percent of conservatives support removal of Schiavo's feeding tube, compared with seven in 10 moderates and liberals. And evangelical Protestants divide about evenly -- 46 percent are in favor of removing the tube, 44 percent opposed. Among non-evangelical Protestants, 77 percent are in favor -- a huge division between evangelical and mainline Protestants.
Conservatives and evangelicals also are more likely to support federal intervention in the case, although it doesn't reach a majority in either group. Indeed, conservative Republicans oppose involving the federal courts, by 57 percent-41 percent.
It's just like that wily closet-Muslim Obama to pander to the evangelicals. Jesus (the real one with blond hair and blue eyes) should probably warn them or something....
(Click on Jesus for the Official False Prophet alert.)
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That would be the same Jesus who said something along the lines of ‘as you sow, so shall you reap?’ Yeah, he’s a wily guy. Kinda like Chauncy Gardner, or Forrest Gump: dumb like a fox, metaphorical-like. Definitely a hidden, coded message there that only Duncan and his ilk can correctly decipher and interpret.
Uh-huh.
STILL not sleepy after reading Althouse yet, Terry Schiavo, seems like only yesterday…
House majority leader Tom DeLay apologized yesterday for saying federal judges are ”responsible” for the death of Terri Schiavo…
Where’s Bill Frist, Mr. Diagnose Brain Activity on the TV, “managing” his Blind Trust somewhere new?
Commenting on plans to remove Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube this Friday, Sen. Rick Santorum told The Hill newspaper on Wednesday, “That’s not going to happen on my watch.” (What a tool, nasty too, ewwww.)
Wasn’t this the Perfect Storm of Sleazebags? Even Bush came back EARLY! from a vacation of not reading National Security reports to sign an emergency bill to have the US Government meddle in the Schiavo’s lives.
It’s a little known fact that the most junior Senator of the party that’s not being allowed to influence legislation in any way by the leadership of the opposition drives the agenda of the Senate. It’s a collegiality thing.
I think that’s why Bush is supporting McCain, because Obama forced him to fly home from vacation to sign the Schiavo bill in his pajamas.
Never let it be said that the repug wingnuts lack empathy or imagination, and the Sciavo drama proves it.
They looked at Terry Sciavo’s situation, and imagined what it would be like to have their wingnut-welfare feeding tube removed. The horror! So of course they had to try and stop it. It’s not at all like when they had to pull the plug on Gramps McWrinkly that was just burning through the savings that said wingnut would need for upgrading to a bigger SUV and super-sized plasma TV. Not at all!
Look not at Terry Sciavo, but at the wingnuts that were strenuously trying to preserve her, and say to yourself: “there, but for a functioning brain, go I”
The Terry Schiavo flap was when the whole country finally got to see the wingnutty goodness at the heart of the Republican party. The same president who replied to the “Bin Laden Determined to Strike US” NIE and responded with “You’ve covered your ass, now,” had himself flown to D.C. in the middle of the night to sign the Schiavo bill.
I can’t even figure out WTF they hoped to gain by getting involved in this. Stupid is as stupid does. I guess you throw enough shit on a wall some of it will stick.
Gee, and look where Frist, DeLay and Santorum are now, not to mention President 19% Approval. If these guys really want to refight the Terri Schiavo battle, I ask them to Bring It On. Please!
The scary thing is that, even at the end, Terri Schiavo showed more brain activity than the Congress did…
A thousand times yes!
Schiavo?
Doesn’t she write for PJ Media?
Speaking of sweet memories, William F. Buckley has passed away.
Spinning in his grave to begin immediately following interment.
Keeps me searching for a heart of thorns …
Already started oddly enough with a post by Jane on FDL…
written from the perspective of those who knew him B4 the Republicans turned bad…
No kidding. When FOX’s own viewer polls showed that 80% of them sided with Michael Schiavo, it should have been obvious that this was a bad issue for them. But they kept stabbing themselves with the Terri dagger, over and over and over again.
I pick this, which followed so hard on the heels of the big failed push to destroy Social Security, as the moment when it suddenly became clear to a critical mass of Americans that the Republicans in general, and Bush’s people in particular, were fucking batshit insane. Bush never saw the north side of 50% approval after that.
The Terry Schiavo flap was when the whole country finally got to see the wingnutty goodness at the heart of the Republican party.
Yup. Between that and Katrina a lot of scales fell from a lot of eyes in ‘05. Not enough, though.
Well, I sure hope that K-Lo–who is shocked to find that Obama regrets the Schiavo incident–doesn’t stumble upon this old column by Bill Buckley as she combs through her scrapbook to write the complete Buckley memorial. She might pop a vessel.
Those many who pleaded to continue the patient’s life emphasized the theoretical possibility of a cure, or a rehabilitation of sorts. On this point her parents argued most tenaciously. They released, over the weekend, tapes made of their afflicted daughter, which could be interpreted as showing Terri to be responding to stimuli of various kinds.
But the world was looking at a woman whose immobilizing heart attack happened fifteen years ago. An anonymous doctor declared flatly that she had a flat EEG — electroencephalogram, the brain wave test…
It was unseemly for critics to compare her end with that of victims of the Nazi regime. There was never a more industrious inquiry, than in the Schiavo case, into the matter of rights formal and inchoate. It is simply wrong, whatever is felt about the eventual abandonment of her by her husband, to use the killing language. She was kept alive for fifteen years, underwent a hundred medical ministrations, all of them in service of an abstraction, which was that she wanted to stay alive. There are laws against force-feeding, and no one will know whether, if she had had the means to convey her will in the matter, she too would have said, Enough.
Sam beat me to it, but I second this. Even at the time, I could see it in the eyes of the Wingers I work with (at least the ones who still had at least one artery pumping blood to their brains) : The modern GOP had jumped the shark.
stupid is as duncan hunter does