At best McCain’s a reluctant warmonger. He’s also a corrupt rightwing hack who was a lousy student, lousy pilot, beneficiary of military nepotism,and owes his political career to marrying an ultra rich woman who used to steal prescription dope.

I wouldn’t call him a warmonger. I’d call him an unprincipled hack willing to sell out any of his allegedly deeply-held convictions for a shot at the brass ring. I’d also call him a hotheaded narcissist who is tempermentally unsuited for executive power.

“Warmonger”? Not nearly descriptive enough.

Both McCain and Gold farb meet my definition of “psycho wanker”. Bloody Billy KKKristol, on the other hand, is in a class all by his cosmically retarded, delusional, and bloodthirsty self.

In the recesses of his twisted psyche, McCain wants to re-fight the Vietnam War and so conflates Al Qaeda with the Viet Cong and Iran with North Vietnam.
Sociopath…warmonger…your pick.

McCain is just an old guy whose consciousness of the present is overwhelmed by his memories of the past. He goes through the motions of being here now but, inside his head, it’s all the Sixties when he was young and strong and noble and right.

Be that as it may, I would suggest that the “Bomb Iran” routine at least makes the “warmonger” label arguable. The man has joked in public about starting a war with a country that has not provoked us. You can argue over his sincerity and his intentions, but if nothing else it should rule out pearl-clutching “My God why would anyone SAY such a thing!” routines.

He’s leading the ticket for the Warmonger Party, isn’t he? Or, better still, the War Profiteer Party. Or the Creationist Party. Or the Bigot Party. Or the Sexual Deviant Party. I could go on…

Yep, this is what we need.
6.5 billion human beings pickled in patriotism.
The surest path to truth.
Or, perhaps, as Krishnamurti once observed….there is no path to truth.

ken

Just heard the usual Very Serious People on “This Week” very seriously discussing why McCain may well choose Condoleeza Rice as his VP. To me that would be a clear signal that the Republicans want to throw this election so as to make sure that a Democrat takes the heat for eight years of Bush follies. Either that or McCain feels that will gain him the all important People Who Can Eat Corn on the Cob Through a Picket Fence demographic.

I don’t like Condoleeza Rice, although I do love her legs.

ken

I’ll call McCain a warmonger and not apologize. I’ll call him a few other things, too.

Isn’t it strange that he never mentions his son? NYT has an article today about it. I would think that he would want the “war” to end and his son out of danger but that’s just me.

Clusterfuck and McBush are probably the last presidential wannabes who are still fighting the Viet Nam War…The next generation will be free from that curse.

McCain, like Bush, doesn’t often know when he is lying. Goldfarb and Kristol know exactly what they are doing, lying to our face, with a smarmy, almost sickly smile on theirs. The latter two aren’t deluded, they are pathological liars, in defense of a pitiful ideology and mindset.

Digg it

But but he IS a WARMONGER the 100 years in Iraq McCain!

Admit it, you like her boots! I’ve seen the odds as to whether or not she wears leather underwear (for). But I digress.

What’s to apologize for? McCain IS most definitely a warmonger with a capital W I always think of him context of the movie “Bat 21″. Those guys have no clue as to what those on the receiving end experience. Nor do they give good dog-damn.

The Combat Infantry Badge, at least, or the equivalent, indicates the person understands what it is all about on the most elemental level. Killing from the insulation of several tens of thousands of feet, miles away, when you put in perspective, is clinical. Not as bad as killing millions from thousands of miles away with the stroke of a pen, with a fine sounding speech, admittedly, but extraordinarily sterile, nonetheless. The Kagans need to look a few of the people they casually espouse slaughtering in the eye, before and after. The end products of their kind of solutions may sound fine in the classroom, but what do they really know?

Beautifully stated, as always ET!

I’m writing a column over at my place about today’s Anchorage essay by a guy who writes and spouts a lot of mean words.

Is a ‘warmonger’ a person who supported, supports an attack on and an illeagal occupation of a country that posed no danger (well confined militarily) and supports winning (whatever that means) that attack, no matter it is unethical and illeagal to do so?….I think it would be fair to say that person is a ‘warmonger’ in that sense of the word.

What DennisSGMM said. And said well, I might add.

Oh, and by the by, who here is sick and tired of wingnuts demanding apologies whenever somebody tells them the truth to their face? I hope Obama tells Goldfarb to piss off.

Hey Tom… coming to SD.. dinner? Sushi? email me.

As a young man I was known as “Unity Dean” or “Post-partisan Dude”. I’ve always advocated uniting for peace. Lots of people like that until you define peace as “no more imperialism”. Whoa…McCain, Obama, Clinton all head for the nearest exit muttering “What empire? I’ll check on that and get back to you.”

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Citizen TBogg and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

“…I don’t think that John McCain is exactly what I would call a ‘warmonger’”.

Now given the definition of “warmonger” as “…a person who advocates, endorses or tries to precipitate war”, how ken one NOT call John McCrazy a “warmonger”??!! I think that the gloves are off for progressives and even if we are to apply “liberal” concern for precision of language and the application of pejoratives, we are forced ta use the term because it is the most descriptive when it comes to McCain’s attitudes about foreign affairs and the application of force.

Let’s not be afraid anymore…John McCain is a fascist and a warmonger, now see… that isn’t difficult ta say OR ta read and it cuts thru the bullshit to the truth. The time for tuggin’ on our forelocks and agonizin’ over word choices is over…I for one ain’t gunna get beat up rhetorically by the bad guys anymore for bein’ weak and afraid ta call a spade a shovel.

John McCain is a warmonger…end of discussion unless the fascists wanna argue about it, then by all means bring it on. But keep the argument focused on McCain and away from Obama. Don’t apologize, don’t equivocate and never be afraid anymore…ATTACK-ATTACK-ATTACK!!!

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUINITION…FASCISM NEEDS FEAR TO SURVIVE!!

“Bomb, bomb, bomb; Bomb, bomb Iran,” doesn’t sound much like warmongering to me.

John “hundred-year-war” McCain is NOT a warmonger.

Faith and Hope are stronger than Fear.
I choose the former(s) to the latter.
Those who choose to accept fear from those who are trying to use others’ vulnerabilities and weaknesses to gain (so-called) power and wealth are just not thinking.
It’s kind of a Catch 22.
It’s difficult to think when you’re stuck in the fear cycle.

When a Senator votes for torture, does that make them a warmonger?

Frank Rich today nearly parallels Goldfarb. He sometimes writes as if he were Maureen Dowd standing at a urinal; other times he nails an issue exactly right. I can’t decide whether that’s Rich or the Times’ demand for “balanced” criticism in unbalanced times.

Today he generally takes McCain to task for being a thoughtless, uninformed warmonger, then can’t resist crying shame on the Dems for calling McCain a warmonger. He criticizes them for saying McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a hundred years, then refuses to critique the falseness of McCain’s comparisons between an Iraq in the midst of a longterm, bloody civil war and the decades long, peaceful (if resented) occupations of Japan, Germany or Korea.

McCain flip flops constantly, desperately wanting not to criticize the ReichWing which supports the president. In effect, he argues that we stay the course - at least until he’s elected - and we’ll figure out what we’re doing as the decades and dollars fly by. Never mind the cost, the lost opportunities at home, and the damage done to Iraq and prospects for peace worldwide.

Thanks TBogg.

Or a torchermonger?
Can’t we just all be lovemongers?
I know. I’m naive.

Two hours a day on the StairMaster will do that.

Call the Republicans what they are, hypocritical, self-righteous, capital “A” authoritarian, anti-democratic, greedy, chickenhawk, elitist warmongers. Say it everyday and every chance. Eventually it will sink in to the average American that Republicans are dangerous to the health of their families and the country at large.

When a Senator votes for torture, does that make them a warmonger?

Not on that datum alone. It does, however make the Senator a war criminal.

Look for another “Big” bank to fail by the end of the quarter.

And Bernanke begs Congress for more power.

I’m not convinced that name calling is going to persuade the public.
Perhaps pointing out the economic hits they are suffering would be more effective.
Not sure. But, people don’t usually ignore their dwindling bank accounts.
That and the Body Count.

Just heard that the Dems in Congress just sent another “strongly worded” letter to the WH. Strongly worded letters are starting to pile up. Maybe by November 5th they will have reached the tipping point.

Lehman

Okay. That’s it.
No more beer, sex, bowling or baseball until they wise up.

We need even more strongly worded letters. “Stop behaving like this RIGHT NOW or we’ll impeach your fascist ass” would be appropriately strong.

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Citizen demi and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

“I’m not convinced that name callin’ is going to persuade the public.”

It’s not about “persuading the public”…it’s about legitimizin’ what the public already knows but is afraid to say out loud. Oh lord save us from “liberal angst” and toothless sensitivity to the humanity of those who have no humanity. This is a political fight to the death and the fascists know it and their only hope is that we who oppose them will be too afraid to join the battle out of fear of bein’ called names!!

Good God…a rose is a rose is a rose, unless it’s a fascist rock!

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND DON’T BE AFRAID TA CALL ‘EM WHAT THEY ARE…THEY PEOPLE ARE LISTENIN’!!!

Have to do both. Show how the Republicans have made a mess of the economy, turned their backs on environmental issues, health care, failed Iraq policies. Write to the local papers, call in right wing radio shows (under the radar), post leaflets in public squares. Give the people the facts and eventually everyone will be calling Republicans the names they deserve. They have to be seen as the pariahs that they are.

Obama apologized, given the nature of McCain’s twitchy temper, perhaps he felt discretion was the better part of valor. McCain might have went all Baghdad on his ass.

Yes. McCain…twitchy…please marry those two words liberally.

what the public already knows
That’s what scares ME. I did see the poll saying how many people think we’re going in the wrong direction.
But, I would not assume that the public knows what is going on.
They are still driving big ass trucks, still buying China made products and some are still proud to have children giving their lives for Democracy.
I agree with your heart, I’m wondering what the best way to deal with this mess is.

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Citizen EvilDrPuma:

“…’Stop behaving like this RIGHT NOW or we’ll impeach or fascist ass’.”

Oh, bless your heart Citizen EDP…now let’s show the public that they’re right about what’s happenin’ to ‘em and it’s OK ta be mad as hell. Remember we’re not tryin’ ta persuade ANYone, we’re jest tryin ta say out loud what the common folks have known all along but have been afraid to say.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…YOU CAN’T WIN IF YER AFRAID!!

You’re in San Diego, JoFish? Me too.

You are spot on, correct and I agree all the way.

Memo to Pelosi: impeachment, it’s what’s for dinner.

Don’t forget Katrina. That’s not a bug, but a feature of Republican rule.

What Juan says…

George W. Bush is a war criminal, and so are all who fails in their duty to impeach him.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Three U.S. soldiers were killed and 31 others wounded in two rocket attacks Sunday afternoon in Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

An attack involving a “couple of rounds” of fire on the International Zone, also known as the Green Zone, killed two soldiers and wounded 17 others about 3:30 p.m., a military official said, declining to give the specific location of the attack for security reasons.

A separate attack about 30 minutes earlier killed one soldier and wounded 14 at a U.S. military outpost in Rustamiya in southeastern Baghdad, the military said.

Hey Raven

eg, what up?

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Citizen Raven:

Yo Brother Raven…how’s things in the boonies?

kEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…FEAR IS JEST A WORD!!

Surrounded by progressive Democrats. It’s utopia, at least until I pick up the newspapers and read about the damage our government is doing in so many ways.

New networks, new ideas.

egregious, I know you moved to California. Are you in the bay area?

I’ve lived here since 84 and I ain’t exactly mushy gushy but it is truly amazing when spring hits. Tune in to the Masters next week for a look see. Been trying to help the patient in the garden as much as I can with my short attention span. As our friend Thom Harttman says, I’, “a hunter in a farmers world”!

Nah, gonna be in a few weeks. Wish I’d a knowd that Loo, I was in PHX for the last two months. Just came back to the other coast… wet, mizzerable, cool. Oh well, we needed the rain.

Yes, bay area and loving it!

Pups, Book Salon is up.

A sincere thank you to tbogg folks who are kindly letting us share space with them this afternoon. Hope we haven’t wrecked the place.

Thanks, TBogg! I’ll visit more often.

Absolutely, the list wasn’t meant to be all inclusive but merely a starting point. Republicans are dangerous to the health of our families and the ntaion at large.

The primary at this moment is boring as hell.

You promised us a feature about Megan McCain similar to the Five Brothers Blogging.

I am calling you on it.
You will truly be the Unity Blogger if you come through.
I’ll even give you the title (Sp?) for your first entry.

“Two things we can all agree upon.”

This wide-eyed, “Who, me?” innocence they expect us to impart to McCain is hilarious, he’s spent the better part of his life immersed in war-making at one level or another, and now that he’s touting endless occupation of Iraq and singing diddys about bombing Iran, we are supposed to consider him anything OTHER than a warmonger?

This is beyond hypocrisy, it is getting ludicrous, if McCain and any of hus surrogates push this issue further, it will be all the more transparent that they wantthier for-profit wars without the obligation of taking responsibility for them.

“What War?” said Johnny, as the bombs rained down….

Be sure to read Frank Rich today. He makes all the arguements for McCain’s failure with reality. Yes, it is scary. But sets the terms for the rebuttal to the success claims.

Also, this by Sam Steyn: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....95297.html

All my life (I’m 6 years old) I have hunted for The Unity Blogger.

Now my life is complete.

Oh, joy, oh, life, The Unity Blogger is here!

a rose by any other name…

you can’t get much more war-mongrelly for me!