Barack Obama comes clean in an surprising interview in this Sunday’s Parade:
There are things about organized religion which I resent. Christ is revered as the Prince of Peace, but more blood has been shed in His name than any other figure in history. You show me one step forward in the name of religion and I’ll show you a hundred retrogressions. Remember, they were men of God who destroyed the educational treasures at Alexandria, who perpetrated the Inquisition in Spain, who burned the witches at Salem. Over 25,000 organized religions flourish on this planet, but the followers of each think all the others are miserably misguided and probably evil as well.
Remember that leering, cursing lynch mob in Little Rock reviling a meek, innocent little 12-year-old Negro girl as she tried to enroll in public school? Weren’t they — or most of them — devout churchgoers? I detest the two-faced who pretend liberality but are practiced bigots in their own mean little spheres. I didn’t tell my daughter whom to marry, but I’d have broken her back if she had had big eyes for a bigot. As I see it, man is a product of his conditioning, and the social forces which mold his morality and conduct — including racial prejudice — are influenced more by material things like food and economic necessities than by the fear and awe and bigotry generated by the high priests of commercialized superstition. Now don’t get me wrong. I’m for decency — period. I’m for anything and everything that bodes love and consideration for my fellow man. But when lip service to some mysterious deity permits bestiality on Wednesday and absolution on Sunday — cash me out.
If you don’t know the guy on the other side of the world, love him anyway because he’s just like you. He has the same dreams, the same hopes and fears. It’s one world, pal. We’re all neighbors.
I’m not unmindful of a man’s seeming need for faith; I’m for anything that gets you through the night, be it prayer, tranquilizers, or a bottle of Jack Daniels. But to me religion is a deeply personal thing in which man and God go it alone together, without the witch doctor in the middle.
Oh wait. Sorry.
My bad.
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You and Roy are on tear. Keep it up.
such a bitter black man. much better to vote for the white bitch or the relic from the past — at least with them we know our womenfolk will be safe… except McCain’s ex-wife of the week, of course. — Or his current wife, for that matter… “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c**t” — the voice of conservative compassion for you.
The only problem with these references to the Spanish Inquisition is that I expect the door to fly open and for Michael Palin to whinny, “Noooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!”
“Amongst… our… weapons are fear, surprise, and a near-fanatical devotion to the Pope…”
Some things are timeless.
Nobody expects: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A
“Cardinal Fang! Fetch…THE COMFY CHAIR!”
I was just listening to some priest on CNN talking about how Bush and Pope Benedict share an abiding love for the dignity of humans.
No word yet about a Bush offer to waterboard and mock sodomize any alleged pedophile priests.
-G
Wow
Wonder how THAT will play in Peoria….first atheist presidential candidate? Yowser!
ring-a-ding-ding TBogg !
What an odd post. Why is this on FDL?
T-Bogg on the front page!
ha ha ha! I knew it was Sinatra the minute I got to “cash me out, pal.” Nice photoshop, too.
who is Jake Tapper and why would i want to fuck em?
Hilarious post.
Had me goin’ for a minute there…
Love the photo!
I’m still votin for the guy.
OOPS I GOT SUCKED IN
Watch this post make front page in the MSM … as truth.
^_^
OT: A call for Condi to resign for choreographing torture and then lying to congress.
My thought exactly…
I knew I liked Barack, I wasn’t sure exactly why until now. You wouldn’t want to fuck Tapper, but you might want to punch him out while smoking a cigarette. He has a very refined sense of smell…don’tcha know.
That cat Sinatra. What’s he doing these days? That is one hip post. He should be bloggin’ man.
Obama speaks for this QuakerGirl. My sentiments, exactly. More atrocities have been committed in the name of Jesus, worldwide, with no admission and apology. Organized religion is a multibillion dollar business.
The head honcho witch doctor is visiting for a week and the MSM empty brain idiots make one stupid comment after the other. It would be better if they shut up and let the costumed ceremony just unfold with nary a hypocritical lie out of their mouths.
I am not an atheist but I respect athirst. I class myself as spiritual. What I have to say is between me and a greater spirit than myself. I don’t need agreement in a Sunday or Saturday gathering of like-minds.
Obama reminds me of my favorite film hero, Humphrey Bogart. Wouldn’t that be something! Humphrey Bogart for President with the name Barak Obama. I love it!
Great Interview, I knew Sinatra was hip but not that Hip. Obama could do worse,good comparison.
I don’t think that’s a photoshop…
Fuck that. Just throw her in jail, along with W, Dick, Rummy, Rove and the entire putrid gang.
I have athirst!
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=127673
TBogg – You got me. I accept everything this guy says. It’s still my sentiments.
Hope it’s not too long, but some Sinatra Info
Sinatra supported Ronald Reagan, and donated $4 million to Reagan’s campaign. Sinatra said he supported Reagan as he was “the proper man to be the President of the United States…it’s so screwed up now, we need someone to straighten it out”.[7] Reagan’s victory gave Sinatra his closest relationship with the White House since the early 1960s, as a result of which Sinatra arranged Reagan’s Presidential gala,[8] as he had done for John F. Kennedy, some 20 years previously.
In 1984 Sinatra returned to his birthplace in Hoboken, New Jersey, bringing President Reagan with him who was in the midst of campaigning for the 1984 U.S. presidential election. Reagan had made Sinatra a fund-raising ambassador as part of the Republicans’ ‘Victory 84’ get-the-vote-out-drive.
Damn. You made me want to vote for him.
And, FWIW, Sinatra never came back to Hoboken after that. “Things Were Said” and he didn’t like them.
What? I thought Sinatra gave Reagan money for his campaign because he was sleeping with Nancy.
you had me until the “tell my daughter who to marry” comment.
Are you laughing at my typing Don’t bust my bubble. I want to think I can type 200 words per min.
heh heh. Good question.
Outstanding post.
Isn’t that’s Obama’s appeal? He does it his way.
Nope, he also supported Nixon and helped pay Agnew’s legal bills. Sinatra’s liberal credentials died with Kennedy.
Heh, I was waiting for the “My Way” reference.
How long do you think it’s going to take before some moron thinks this is Obama speaking?
Who wasn’t?
Wow.
A thinking man wants to be President.
Bout goddam time.
no wonder i didn’t know em. ok, Fuck Jake Tapper!
TBogg!!!
You kidder, you!
Go forth and Sinatra no mo’ (heh,heh,heh).
Jus’ being frank, widya.
Please sent this to the Obama camp, they would probably enjoy it.
After a post like this, perhaps SNL should bring back Joe Piscopo to do their Obama impressions.
Yes, that typo made me laugh
I want him to talk this way. Works for me.
My vote is Humphrey Bogart. Sinatra has always been a pretty-boy wimp.
Frank was a cool dude for sure. He passed away in 1998 of a heart attack.
It’s comments like this that continue to perpetrate the myth that Barack Obama is secret Muslim. Of course, if I had just been cornered about my preacher, who happened to be Jerimiah Wright, I might be a bit skittish of organized religion as well.
Momo Giancana referred to Blue Eyes as a farfaletta.
A butterfly.
I slept with Jake Tapper and all I got was a crotch full of barbeque sauce.
-G
Scooby do be do – thanks TBogg.
Wonderful post.
Demonstrating that after 20 years of wealth and privilege, liberals sometimes become conservatives.
just fwiw, I hate these trick posts that try to suck you in and fool you. Sure — it was obvious that it wasn’t really Obama speaking.
But, this kind of stuff is on par w/ April Fool’s Jokes. Funny if they happen to someone else. Just mean if you’re involved (on either side).
my $/50 …
it would be refreshing to have president talk about religion like that.
Any link with a link to Daniel Pipes is to be scorned.
-G
It would do us all a world of good …
O/T JUST IN:
Supreme Court upholds executions by lethal injection
The decision, supported by a majority of the justices, clears the way for such methods to resume across the country.
By David G. Savage, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
8:35 AM PDT, April 16, 2008
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court cleared the way today for executions to resume across the nation, ruling that lethal injections, if properly carried out, are a “humane” means of ending a condemned individual’s life.
The court upheld Kentucky’s use of lethal injections by a surprisingly large 7-2 vote.
“The Constitution does not demand the avoidance of all risk of pain in carrying out executions,” said Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr…
Anybody notice that every few comments there is ANOTHER person who doesn’t have a clue that this is a joke?
The Man with the Bitter Arm.
What are you people thinking?
This post has all the charm and grace as Lieberman in blackface, and will have the same effect on the campaign that the former had for Ned Lamont.
Fuck ‘em all.
I guess I’m one of the morons, except I did click “Sorry”. This going out without the link is gonna happen, and I consider this thread to be obscene!
Bu’ush is spankin’ a chubbie at the news.
Frank’s 1960 Kennedy commercial
Satire, not everybody “gets” it.
So many trattorias in Italy have Frankie singing in the background while mama is in the kitchen and the wine is flowing. My favorite was a trottoria in Florence my daughter and I discovered off the tourist path. She wanted to try it and I was hesitant, until we walked through the door. On a table near the door was a feast from which we could select dishes. Frankie was singing in the background and mama came out of the kitchen with a cigarette positioned much like the one in pic. No one spoke English and my Italian is limited so we did a lot of smiling and pointing.
We ordered. The house wine was excellent. The olive oil and fresh baked bread brought us to our knees. Every dish was the most delicious and beautiful quality food. The most we could say was Hummmm! Ahhhh! Ohhhh! All this to Frankie singing his heart out. Memorable!
Yeah but you must consider the Clintons. Their latest through platinum ( I only introduce you in Kazahstan after you me 250k to give a speech) Bill is that only the elderly get it,(only the lonely….) and that is the key and that is why the elderly support the Clintons plus their go to base is those without a high school education. So as of today the Clintons added age as a voting factor for their trifecta, age, race and gender.
All five Catholics were supportive on the day that Pope Benny is in town.
Tsk….
-G
Because of his abiding love for the dignity of human life, I’m sure.
This is gonna backfire. Sorry. Not happy.
It is not obvious that it is s joke. Someone is going to take it at truth. I had trouble reading through the Sinatra interview to find the original stuff.
Whatta schmuck are I.
Didn’t click the link.
Sheesh.
Well, Barry’s ful Christian name is, after all, Sheik bin al BaraBlackHusseinMadrassaOsamaBama.
“Every dish was the most delicious and beautiful quality food.”
Cindy’s recipes, I trust?
“Because of his abiding love for the dignity of
humanzygotic life.”Oy! I wonder how many people will not follow through enough to realize that these words were never spoken by Barack Obama, but were in fact spoken by Sinatra in a Playboy interview. Surprising that you didn’t bring up Playboy’s interview with Jimmy Carter. You know, the one that was quoted many, many times, about his lust in his heart. I sure hope people don’t do what they usually do, believe whatever they see on the printed page and not delve deep enough to get the full ride.
my impression was that there is nothing wrong about talking honestly about religion. The contrast between the views of a popular singer, that many people like, and a media punching bag highlights the hypocrisies.
Bill should just STFU.
Charlie Parker imitations only work on Boomers.
He’s no longer hip.
Obama’s Sea of Youngsters will put a Democrat in the White House.
Bush couldn’t care less about zygotes either. It’s just a wedge issue to him. That’s why, when he had both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court in his back pocket, he didn’t even try to get an abortion ban through.
Those words are soaked in wisdom that open-minded Americans, the majority, know to be true, and yet politicians have to pretend otherwise to prevent the right-wing smear noise machine from 24/7 frothing that they are godless pagans ruled by Satan… communists in other words. GOP frames this and other major issues. How they control should be the question. Answer: they own the MSM. Why? because propaganda is how to subvert democracy.
The Boss just endorsed The Sheik, btw.
So?
You regard this as a post, then, of too much levity?
I think it cleverly raises issues and encourages thought. As to its being taken the ‘wrong’ way, I quess I would have to say that humor remains one of our best means of ‘education’.
We’ll all feel much better when people laugh, out loud, at the statements and pronouncements of those who would destroy us. Not taliking foreign terrorists, here.
Just mah $0.02.
that just made me hungry.
Very easy for me to notice. I was one of them. It took me a few minutes. Still not sure the timing is right but on the other hand, it pokes fun of those who want to believe the bad, bad, bad.
yup agreed. Inappropriate.
That interview is certainly an interesting read, TBogg. Sinatra was quite the philosopher.
Nancy Reagan’s boytoy sure could talk, couldn’t he?
Bu’ush doesn’t really care about much of anything beyond his self-adoration.
Paraphrasing Lewis Lapham, the world of Bu’ush is populated by but two inhabitants. It is a place wherein Bu’ush the Actor need only please Bu’ush the Audience.
Give credit where credit is due. Bush does care about the dignity of some human lives. Namely, the rich white ones.
I’m not so sure Ann. I think I am going to get a group e-mail from Southern relatives quoting from this thread. It will say something like, “Even FireDogLake cannot hide who Obama really is”.
I kid you not!
I didn’t realize Frank was so enlightened back then. What happened to him?
And why can’t any of our candidates talk like that about religion?
It’s midnight in Manhattan
This ain’t no time to be cute
It’s a mad dog’s promenade . . .
So, walk tall
Or, baby, don’t walk at all
I don’t. Politicians use Christianity as a prop so much in this country, they should be called on it. I bet that in his heart of hearts, Obama’s had a thought or two like the ones TBogg “quoted”. We’ll never hear them from him, though, and probably not from many others.
Robert Greenwald has a great new video he just posted on the NSA’s secret torture meetings. A must see and there’s a petition to sign also.
I’m having problems with hyperlinks today, but the URL is
http://condimustgo.com/
I understand that this is supposed to be a joke, but it is NOT FUNNY.
This post hurts Barack Obama, and it hurts the Democratic cause.
This post is FUCKED UP.
Exactly HOW? Sheesh man, get a grip.
TBogg
Nice work.
There’s probably a Sinatra file photo somewhere that looks just like that one.
Except with a dangling Kent King. Not a Marlboro.
Bush does not care if he is hated.
But I don’t think he can deal with being laughed at …
It might dawn on him that he is regarded by everyone, even his base (and they are base, indeed) … as a joke.
What ya think?
Instant insanity!
This is total craziness! Who are you to put words in his heart?
I signed that one but had trouble with it. It kept freezing up. I like to think it was because of overload. So many people signing the petition at once.
Slightly OT, but I just heard this Pontiff’s voice for the first time (NPR).
Peter Seller’s Strangelove.
Freaky.
If people think Obama really said these things they are the ones who will have egg on their faces. They won’t have followed through and found out the truth and they will just look stupid. IMO
Sure it wouldn’t be a clove kretek from Indinesia?
why? how?
Slightly OT, but I just heard this Pontiff’s voice for the first time (NPR).
The Ratzi Pack
Reference: The Manchurian Candidate.
The train scene.
it’s like an april fools joke. Makes the ones who got it feel superior. Mean-spirited to anyone who was fooled. Fundamentally juvenile. And inappropriate given the current ready-to-explode state of consciousness.
(And I wasn’t fooled. I still recognize the inappropriateness. And this from the folks who booted trex cause he was too edgy and controversial? Sure, let tbogg put this up on his section of the site. But it doesn’t belong on FDL.)
Great to see bitterness back at FDL!
Who knew that Sammy Davis, Jr. spoke latin?
Imagine a Consecration:
Ring a Ding !!
You concerns are not groundless …
however, the nature of the change we seek, must allow us the opportunity of using humor as a tool, without fearing, overmuch, that it will be used against us. ‘They’will try, of course, but watching how folks in Pittsbugh, PA, responded to the ‘bitter’ comments in speeches by Clinton and Obama, suggests to me that simplistic, surface ‘outrages’ are not so easily successful any longer.
They may have egg on their face to me and thee but I assure you not to their ilk. It’s stunning some of the hateful lies that get chained out across the net. Even when people are shown facts it is a lie, they dig their heels in and become more intransigent.
I would not be amused if I were the executive editor of Parade.
Isn’t it about time for a new topic?
Man, you’re a dimwit. Get a grip, and a sense of humor.
But aren’t you tired of the self-righteous piety of the wingers? I am so sick of it and, no, I didn’t feel superior because I got it. Obama goes to church – Bush doesn’t. Next question.
I call false on the TRex theory, but thanks for trying to play that one…and, btw, personnel issues are — and ought to be — solely between the parties involved and not for public airing for a whole host of good reasons.
Who am I? Someone who knows that most of us have internal dialogues we don’t dare speak out loud in most company. Most of the founding fathers were people for whom religion was either a distraction or an impediment to society. I find it hard to believe that our leading politicians are that much dumber now.
Christy, look at the insults tossed here at those who were “suckered” as it was put. Do you think it’s worth it?
When posters start attacking each other over the current topic, a new one would be welcome.
This post is as funny as misogynistic jokes in the workplace.
This post is as funny as pushing people in wheelchairs down staircases.
This post is as funny as postcards of lynchings.
Humor has it’s place — but this post is not funny, and not helpful.
What you said. Ding.
True, but you don’t know mine or anyone else but yours.
It’s called projection in some circles.
Back to making a few more calls and spending my morning getting something productive accomplished. That is one long list, Christy. Phone calls, e-mails for day one. I need another cup of tea to fortify me.
If I’d actually claimed to know what was on Obama’s mind, you’d have a point. Note the words “I bet”, though. That’s a clear indication that it’s just a guess on my part.
I was suckered and I didn’t hurl insults. Name calling is insulting. Belittling is insulting. Disagreement is not hurling insults.
The recent willingness of commenters and even an occassional poster, to insult and belittle others does not reflect well on anyone.
Rule Number 5, please.
Let us all take ourselves to task for taking ourselves too seriously, first. That should be confrontation enough, among friends …
Starbuck — do I think what is worth it? (A) Insults are not nice. (B) Satire can be very useful as a communication tool. And (C) this is a blog, wherein ideas, jokes, sharp criticisms and other ideas are tossed about and contemplated in a variety of ways. Are they going to be “one size fits all”? No. Can everyone ever be pleased all the time? No. Is one communication mode preferable to others? No. Would I choose the same posting tone or mode as everyone else all the time? No — but then, most folks don’t do long, ponderous legal diatribes, either. *g*
You began by disagreeing with me and now you claim conjecture on your part?
You are a Bushie, I bet!
did y’all know Sinatra had a hand in the fall of the Soviet Bloc ?
oh look, a shiny distracting anecdote !
FDL was really my first “blog” starting what, around 3 years ago now? I used to type “.blogspot.com” to come here and 20 comments was considered a very active thread.
I liked it for the insightful analysis that was presented with just the right mix humor, anger, sarcasm, hopefulness, and plenty of saltiness thrown in for good measure.
This post seems totally normal here, and as an Obamatron, I laughed when reading it.
(just a little customer feedback)
Breaking news:
The ghost of Frank Sinatra single-handedly takes down the Obama campaign by channeling through a blogger.
Seriously?
Oh noe!
that’s fair … sorry for bringing that one in.
Hail, Obamatron. Obamabot here (a.k.a. Obamoron over at the ObamaIsTheDevil.com site)
And did it my way
Yes, it looks like we need to beg our Senators to, in the immortal words of Ron Paul, “crack open the Constitution” and try to comprehend that Fourth Amendment thingy again.
Love that image of Cheney, BTW. Something about the framing of that picture puts him in proper perspective.
Still Doin’ It His Way, huh?
That’s okay. I adore TRex, always have, always will. But personnel matters need to stay private, regardless, even when it’s tough on folks who don’t know because they aren’t in the personnel loop. Because that’s really best for everyone. Being a grown-up sucks sometimes, but there you are. *g*
“snark scolding dismissive way” the head of the OMB
sez Milulski —tongue lashing
CSPAN 3 now
Yup! That’s a perfect example of what I fear will happen, too!
If you don’t get this post, then you have not been following TBogg all these years. Part and parcel of his brilliance, yes brilliance as a writer is his use of humor to take on difficult issues. Sometimes in just a single sentence, sometimes more. Irreverent and always relevant.
Some of the most hysterically funny stuff I have ever read on the web was written by Tom. If you don’t “get” this, go read some of his stuff current and past and perhaps you’ll get where he’s coming from.
Excellent Post!
Yes – it makes me really uncomfortable. I know TBogg is making fun of the media – but in light of the fact that one fabricated controversy is finally dying down and his two opponenets are still looking for ways to nail him, why make readers nervous and risk starting another mess? We already know the MSM are idiots.
And you know that this photoshopped picture will end up on Drudge or some other site. Why give ammunition, even if it’s tongue in cheek?
Lol!
I haven’t see this many pantyies in a bind around here in a long time!
Funny shit.
TBogg is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life
I believe that we have to stop worrying about what “they” might say. The Dems in Congress are cowards because they don’t want to be right, they want to be popular. And THAT could very well cost us the next election. It’s about time we said the truth and let “them” deal with it.
So is this a bad time to mention the fact that Attaturk is parking in my space again?
Bastard. I hate him.
Too many of the comments in this thread stink of fear. Just why in the hell should we self-censor to avoid feeding the noise machine? Even if we don’t provide any ammumition, they’ll just make shit up. It’s what they do. So fuck em all and have some fun.
He always does that. Wanker. Let’s TP his car…
Sic yer new dog on him.
Yeah, plus I’m just confused. I’m glad I’m not the only one with doubt…wtf?
Well, I don’t know tbogg, and probably would have caught the humor had I been a regular. My comment is meant for FDL, not tbogg.
Out of context quoting is a major political smear tactic, and this one is a doozy! All you need to do is remove the Parade attribute, drop the link, and boy, would this be useful! If tbogg wants to be the front for this, so be it. How many readers/posters come here and not also tbogg?
I stick to my position.
Yeah, agree. But, this has by now been drained of its humor potential and has become a waste of time. Need a new topic.
150 Comments? Shit, I thought Alec Rawls had popped by.
And the late, great Herb Caen said it best: Sinatra was a better singer when he was a Democrat. Now, we know he was a better thinker as well.
clap clap clap !
O/T- Liberty City Seven retrial also ends in a mistrial, after 13 days of jury deliberations. Bu’ush Terrah conviction rate is about the only thing lower than his JAR.
i dunno why i never read over here. sneaky way to divert traffic *g
gotta stop back more often.
O/T- Bu’ush just told the Popie Dude “Thank you, yer Holiness, awesome speech.”
There is a new post at FDL that is not showing up on this one. FYI only.
There is a new thread at FDL.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/04…..e/#respond
:O===|
I have no complaints. The quality of reports at FDL is consistently outstanding. Of course, you can never have too much race and gender and Britney.
Such grace. Such poise. Such class. Yep, that’s our Commander Guy
Excellent point. Write enough stuff and they’ll quote something they can take offense at or twist around. Might as well write what you think and let the jackasses do what they will.
The question is, who will know that they wound up with egg on their faces? They probably won’t. They likely won’t discuss it with anyone else who will know the truth, so to whom will they look stupid? This will end up being a huge rumor that Obama’s enemies will use, and it isn’t even real. Don’t you understand, people see this in writing and they read it like the bible. They go no further than the words on the page or on the site. Normally, they don’t even think, they just react and retain. Good luck with this. But my warning is, this is the very way that rumors are started.
great. thanks.
What, there’s something about Britney!!!
jeebus – like it’s a Knights of Columbus sports banquet – un-effing believable
Give him the Medal of Honor.
isn’t there a basset pup around here?
come here puppy…(scratch scratch scratch behind the ear)
Yeah, bring on the puppies. I need something to cheer me up. Not enough enemies out there. We need to catch flack from our friends.
half the commenters don’t appear to have got it yet? good one!
Um…..”personnel matters are private”? Someone tell Walmart — they’re gonna be *so* pissed that they never thought of that.
Yes, well if WalMart — as the employer — brought up the reasons behind personnel matters when there was a termination or other action with an employee, they could get their asses sued in a whole host of jurisdictions. Civil suit information becomes public once it is filed, but personnel matters which are handled internally are not discussed for a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is protecting the rights and privacy of the employee as much as the employer.
Late to the party…did I miss something?
Oh. I see.
That’s why you click the link, people.
That’s why you click the link.
Except he just spent four days explaining remarks that were misconstrued and used by the opposition. We have nuts that still think he is a Muslim. We don’t need to be putting things out with any potential to create the wrong perception, even if they are frivilous. It is just stupid to bait the morons. The media could care less about truth, context or the damage they do just for ratings. Obama needs to stay one step ahead at all times. This kind of stuff is not helpful.
Impressive – 176 comments as of this writing and no Alec Rawls.
OTT, but…
If anyone or anyone you know needs more proof that this “war” is a total humanitarian disaster, I urge you to click over to http://antiwar.com/ and look at the picture on the front page (you need to scroll down a little).
Look at that man’s face. Stunned, wounded, terrified–like a cornered animal.
His crime? Getting out of bed this morning.
This “war” is monstrous on a level that should be inconceivable to citizens of a compassionate nation of peace.
Impeach, indict, imprison.
The only way to expiation is through swift and ruthless justice.
Please don’t put Tbogg on the front page! I know he deserves it, but those of us who read him all the time kind of like our nice, perverted little backwater club.
1963 That was when even conservatives were liberal. And I agree with jnfr too much riffraff for Tboggians.
Yeah, and the other half is he’ll get his ‘posse’ of goons, Kos…Bowers…BTD…Marshall, to kick yer teeth in if’n you….
…..don’t want to do it his way.
You know, Lewis never said which side of the picture that figure was approaching….the one wrapped in the flag… carrying the Bible.
Nope, he never said whether it was approaching from the right or….
The Left.
Think about it.
Think hard about the values the Magic Man expresses through his actions. Not his words. His actions.
While I agree with everything Obama says in this interview, I think it is an invitation for Hillary to distort once again.
Flash Alert!
Flash Alert!
W.hat O. bama R. eally M. eant sighting at FDL. Take all emergency action required to prevent infestation.
Flash Alert!
Seriously, and satire is serious shit. I’m past sick and tired of hearing how we’ve gotta prop up Obama every time he says or does something totally stupid or un-Democratic.
My stock answer to those who insist this must be done is: ‘Thanks pal, I’ll take a pass on supporting someone who thinks I’m a DFH or a nasty ‘progressive’ so he can suck up to Republicans. You see, I am a Democrat pal.’
Kinda like this guy.
While BO could never dare to utter such truths, I’m voting for him anyway. The religious of the world are more at fault for the state of the world than anyone else.
Religion is the BANE of human existence.
So ACitizen, is that who you’re voting for? The dead guy? You have three choices; all have feet of clay. Who you gonna vote for? Will it be the one who is a Bush Clone on many things and has one foot in the grave, will it be the couple who cannot tell a truth about others or themselves, or the polka dot guy who speaks well but puts his foot in his mouth from time to time? You could always go for Nader or Keys? But you have the same choices we all do unless you can find a way to resurrect the dead.
Wait — you get a parking space?
Wait — you have a car?
I knew this FDL expansion would cause hard feelings, but jeez — this is an outrage.
Bad enough you could afford a third basset.
These are the perks of being a “Somewhat Popular Blogger”. The “Really Popular Bloggers” get free frozen yogurt.
With sprinkles.
See, this is the danger of discussing personnel matters openly.
Other bloggers cry.
Hmmmmmmm…..
Strange, I don’t recognize any of the folks you are describing. Perhaps…maybe, just maybe I see things a little differently than you do.
Wow!
Imagine.
I’m gonna vote for the most democratic person in the race at the end…if there is one. And no, Barry is no Democrat. The guy in the clip I linked to at my blog is a fuckin’ Democrat.
Take a look.
Who does he remind you of most?
Sinatra believed they “burned” witches at Salem? Who was he, a 14 year-old chatroom wiccan?
Condi: “Torture and conspiracy to commit torture is a crime!”
Yep just like lying under oath about sex. What! No bondage with Monica??? Bummer for the neo-conservative voyeurs. No sex tapes in the White House. That would have assured a conviction in the Senate of WJC. Yet the outright disregard for law with regard to torture makes little headway? The press is full of “Silent Germans.” We Americans who express our contempt for what has taken place, are not silent Americans………….
NSGH
Trustworthiness ? Poll
obama 57%
vs
clinton 35%
says alot!
oil 144.83
correction 114.83
Daddy-O, Man! I think that Sinatra would have been one of the best bloggers or radio talk-show hosts in human history! The guy just rolls with provocative ideas, and backs them up! And the funny thing is he keeps sayin’…I’m not a political scientist or an economist…ust a musician! Then he whacks you with another grammatically correct seventy-word obliquuy from who knows where!
I suspect Frankie became more of a Conservative as he became more and more of a sheltered recluse. He got taken in by Ronnie’s Libertarian shill and didn’t realize the clacquers that really stood behind the guy. Funny…ya see that trend with William Randolf Hearst and Howard Hughes, too.
BTW Anybody know what sorta fallout Sinatra DID face after this interview was publisihed? Did Billy Graham come down on his head? Did he get banned from TV, blacklisted by film-makers? Did he have to get on his hands and knees and ask for forgiveness?
Maybe because it was in Playboy it was simply not on the radar of his enemies, or they would have had to own up to “reading that filth”!
Okay, he was wrong a bit in the details…but being stretched out on stakes and crushed by a 600 pound stone doesn’t sound all that pleasant to me. And the rest were hanged after being stoned, no?
Jake Tapper is a reporter at ABC who has done alot of stories about questionable ties Obama has to Rezko and his house deal.
You didn’t click on the link at the bottom, did you, boyo?
Although if the post even hints at Hugh Hewitt or Malkin, clicking on the link could damage the eyes!
Yup, and those ties were sooooo questionable that somehow Patrick Fitzgerald didn’t mention them at all in the Rezko proffer and indictment handed down in December. Next!
Hadn’t thought of that.
Caution must certainly be exercised in any situation involving Manboobs or the Krazy Kheerleader.
Dead thread? Just read through this whole series of comments. Yowza! Hair triggers everywhere. We be livin’ in tense times, eh?
What you’re describing are legal aggressive interrogation techniques,used to gain critical information from satanists. Burning, on the other hand, would be torture, and puritans don’t torture.
During the inquisition*, they invented all new fancy ways to torture someone without spilling blood. As long as no blood was spilled, it was just intensive questioning. Blood spilled was torture, & everyone knows they didn’t do that!
*=Noooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
What we have seen here speaks for itself.
The Tbogg homepage has been taken over–conquered, if you will–by a master race of giant FrontPagers.
It’s difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Tboggians or merely enslave them.
But one thing is for certain–there is no stopping them; the FrontPagers will soon be here.
And I for one welcome our new FrontPage Overlords.
I’d like to remind them that as a respected physician I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
Seriously, though…it’s good to see an old-fashioned 200 comment thread in this space.
Makes it feel like home again, if only for moment, however fleeting.
Just really too bad Sinatra isn’t around to blog here. I’d love to hear it. Thought it was a great post – just look at the response!
I think it’s shocking.
But I love the color here.
See now this is why old gits like me wish TBogg had never moved from the old site. I love Firedoglake, but man there’s some humorless people here. Dammit, this man has brought you Bassett goodness (and penis!) not to mention some of the finest wingnut putdowns ever penned (I personally rank him with Wolcott and the late, great Gilliard) and all you can do is worry that he’s going to derail Obama’s chance at the Presidency? Help me Jeebus!
Brilliant, obscure Simpson’s reference. Tried to use this the other day on a thread but failed miserably. Oh yeah, that crazy cat Obama: He knows how to swing on a star, baby.
If it was April 1st this post might be appropriate and or funny, at the moment it just seems lame
This is obscure?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Lighten up, Francis.
Wow. I go to work for a few hours and Tbogg has a party!
Gonna be a lot of confused people Sunday morning when they open their Parade magazines and find an interview with. . . Uma Thurman, or somebody.
Let’s just shut Tbogg’s door very quietly and get back to normal, ok everybody?
Check out his link to Roy Edroso’s brilliant dissection of teh winger blogs.
http://www.villagevoice.com/ne…..7,1.html/7
Great stuff, particularly teh Stupid/Evil index.
The best part of this post by Tbogg is that this is Sinatra talking and Americans still loved his ass until the day he died. Bah hahahahahaha! Poor America when they find out this is how Sinatra felt. Beautiful. Thanks Tbogg for opening up some eyes!
200+ comments, and nobody speculates about what cabinet posts will go to Dean Martin and Joey Bishop? Oh, wait. It’s the ancient Republican guy who will probably appoint dead people to the cabinet.
Forgive us. We’re draftees.
Ol Frank, the mafioso thug wannabe. Never met a man his bodyguards couldn’t beat up.
Great pipes, though.
Geez… I take a night off to watch “No Country For Old Men”, and when I stop by Casa Tbogg, there’s strangers milling around with pitchforks and torches.
Since I don’t have the time/patience for 200+ comments, help get me up to speed.
There are some folks who think this is a big deal? Really?
Really?
Apparently there were earlier, when the FrontPagers descended en masse (see comment 204).
Things have more or less returned to normal.
I think they all went to bed.
I was just listening to some priest on CNN talking about how Bush and Pope Benedict share an abiding love for the dignity of humans.
DIABOLICAL LAUGHTER
Umbrage is the last refuge of the snark-impaired.
As for the editor of Parade, he won’t say a damn thing if someone else’s satire boosts his circulation.