I’d like to be McPain’s Nurse Rachett for a day! I’d show him health care!

I loved this bit, from the same transcript:

MCCAIN: I’m glad to have his endorsement. I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything. But thanks for asking.

“I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything.”

Beautiful.

The question is, will ABC take McSame up on his suggestion, and go to England and Canada and ask about how satisfied people are with their health care? To be fair, in England, satisfaction did dip from 1999 to 2002 a lot. How about France? 69% approval. Austria? 85%. Belgium? 77% Germany 62%. Luxembourg 73%.

Canada? 82%

The Dim Angry Old Man is a stupid, self involved motherfucker. Also a dangerous lunatic with rage issues.

As an Admiral’s son, John McCain is good enough for excellent life-long USGovernment health insurance.

Your average American isn’t good enough for USG health care.

You liberal elitists simply don’t get it…

Once again, you self-involved Washington fuckwits, the question is not whether a family or a government bureaucrat can make better healthcare decisions–it’s whether a government bureaucrat or a corporate bureaucrat can make better healthcare decisions. And I dunno about the rest of you, but I will take every time the government bureaucrat. Because his employers’ profits and therefore his own job doesn’t inherently depend on denying me care even if I need it.

A government health care program gets money from citizens in the form of taxes, and pays out in the form of care, and paperwork expenses, and salaries for the bureaucrats.

A corporate health care program gets money from citizens in the form of premiums, and pays out in the form of care, and paperwork expenses, and salaries for the bureaucrats, and salaries for the rest of the company, and dividends for the shareholders, and bonuses for the CEO, and bonuses for the doctors who deny care, and vacations for the bureaucrats who deny the most care, and employee parties and picnics, and shareholder meetings, and oh yes, campaign donations and lobbyists to keep regulation favorable.

I wonder which one pays more, the one that spends some on services and some on overhead and yes, even some on waste and fraud, or the one that spends a great deal on a wide range of other expenses (including, assuredly, waste and fraud) in order to keep from spending very much at all on services? And into the bargain, I wonder which probably has more live patients at the end of the year?

Is it me, or should the fucking MBA Party keep its collective traps shut on the subject of monetary efficiency? If I want to know how to marry a rich trophy wife, I’ll ask. Until then, shut up.

Sure, Elizabeth Edwards took a “cheap shot” at McCain because she didn’t mention that time that he spent in a POW camp. How dare anyone, anyone, ever refer to John McCain without bringing up what many would regard the lowest point in their life?

I’d like someone to ask him if there is any “other accomplishment” he’d like people to think of when his name comes up. No one denigrates what he went through, but if it’s the only time in his life when he wasn’t engaged in something sleazy it’s a pitiful recommendation.

And hanging out with Joe Lieberman doesn’t count as anything admirable.

McShame: “I want the families to make the choices.”
Children: Ohhhhh.
Father: I’m afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for medical experiments.”>Ah, yes.

Father: The mill’s closed. There’s no more work. We’re destitute.
Children: Ohhhhh.
Father: I’m afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for medical experiments.

It’s great to let the families make the choices… when they have actual choices to make.

Not sure why that comments crapped up entirely [preview is your friend]… let’s try again:

McCain: “I want the families to make the choices.”

Okay, then:

Father: The mill’s closed. There’s no more work. We’re destitute.
Children: Ohhhhh.
Father: I’m afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for medical experiments.

It’s great to let the families make the choices… when they have actual choices to make.

My family has decided that we don’t want McCain to be President.

We’ve also decided that his wife is one creepy-looking broad who should release her fucking tax returns, or her husband should drop out of the race. (Although we’re willing to give her some time on that one, as it’d be much cooler if he dropped out after the Republican convention.)

There is one thing McSame doesn’t understand. Well actually there are many things, but considering the topic at hand, what he fails to realize is that this magic Choice thing he refers to is for him a choice between country club care at the hospital of his choosing thanks to the extremely generous health care benefits our elected leaders in DC get. For a lot of the rest of the country, it is the choicechoice thing is about the choice to live in perpetual medical debt servitude for the rest of their days, or death.

Nice bit of choice ya got there Johnny; to bad the rest of us get the crumbs (if we’re lucky enough to get that). Life-long government tit-sucking, self-important, trophy wife-riding rageaholic MORON. God, I hate these elitist bastards. Please America, let’s not make the same mistake 3 times, shall we?

I’m poor. I have no choice. Fuck you John McCain.

Go to Canada. Go to England and you can find out what’s wrong with it. Governments don’t make the right decisions. Families make the right decisions.

Indeed: this particular family is ready to decide to get out of the US and go to a country which considers healthcare
a right, not a privilege. (For reference: Frontline.)

Fuck you, John McCain, you fucking human tax shelter. And fuck the presstitutes who fluff you.

Like anyone else in America with a pre-existing condition worse than hangnails, McCain would be denied health insurance. Because he has suffered from malignant melanoma there isn’t a plan in the country that would touch him. If you lose your job, along with your employer-provided health insurance and you have a pre-existing you don’t have any choices: you go broke and then you die.

So, when exactly did McCain “know what it’s like in America not to have health care”? Elizabeth Edwards was right: NEVER. He’s had government health benefits every minute, and as DennisSGMM pointed out, they’re probably the reason he’s still alive.

I don’t know anyone who thinks they have a “choice” as far as health care is concerned. You get whatever fucked-up plan your employer is willing to shell out for, and you pay whatever insane premium they ask because you know that if you let coverage lapse for two seconds you could become uninsurable. And you pray that the insurers will pay up if you ever suffer anything worse than a toe fungus. That’s the reality of “choice.”

I underwent emergency surgery while vacationing in Scotland in 1997. The hospital wasn’t Club Med, but I had good care and a successful outcome. The bill was around $3,000, as opposed to the $30,000 it would have been in the U.S., and I still had to battle the insurance company for months to reimburse me. So shove your “choices,” McCain.

Y’all don’t git it.

Murkins don’t need no fancy guvmint doctors.

Murkins got pride.

Murkins got diginty.

Murkins don’t want none of that commie bullshit.

Goin’ te teh doctor fer free…that’s nuthin’ but crazy talk!

Murkins are better dead than re…ack…ugh…my arm…aagh…pssssssshhhhhhh

What?!?! No questions about flag lapel pins? Or the “awkward” things that pastors sometimes say? I’m shocked! Shocked!

I’ve been waiting a long time for someone to ask a member of Congress that question. They don’t have a problem getting “Socialized” health care at all, do they? They just don’t want us to have it. As an Army brat I had motherfucking open heart surgery at 3 years old. and it was free. I’m 49 now.
Experimental surgery at that.

I have a relative who is married to an Air Force officer. He has been flown literally all over the world to consult with specialists on his somewhat rare and unique array of medical conditions. I’m self-employed and pay for my own health insurance. The monthly premium goes up annually anywhere from 12% to (one memorable year) 50%. I have no pre-existing conditions, never been hospitalized, and, rarely use any medical care. If I contracted what my relative has, I have no doubt my insurer would do the very minimum to help me whilst figuring out how to unload me. But I’m flattered that John McCain, an ex POW (never forget!1!!!), puts so much faith in my choices.

Or the “awkward” things that pastors sometimes say?

Actually, surprisingly, the muppet did raise the question of Hagee. Credit where credit is due.

Let ‘em eat choices.

Me, I’m just pissed off that the Snorg Tee ads are gone.

wild applause

“it’s whether a government bureaucrat or a corporate bureaucrat can make better healthcare decisions.”

That it, in a nutshell. The rest of the rant was great, though, and very useful.

The approval rate in Canada is skewed by its southern neighbors. Canadians see how fucked up the medical system can get, so they shout wild approval of their own (imperfect) system.

I drink & smoke. I am very willing to pay a sin tax on those items for a single-payer (Canadian) system down here in the states.

I just can’t believe I left out the other major expense of corporate health insurance companies: lawyers to fend off people wrongfully denied care, and eventual settlements when it was so egregious even the current court system can’t overlook it.

Isn’t getting shot down and captured failing? That is NOT heroic.

Just my two cents, but don’t we all have the choice to go to the emergency room for our health care? See, ya gotta unnerstand, it’s “universal.”

And every single ER visit gives the patient a print-out when s/he leaves that stresses when to “call your physician” for follow-up. You haven’t got a physician in the first place? Not their problem. Of course, you knew that…