Stupidest fucking guy on the planet² – Hugh Hewitt meets Doug Feith:
HH: I’m so struck by the deep division in the Bush administration first term, between those who think ideologically, and those who are often called realists, pragmatists, whatever. It’s a deep, deep division. That’s the revelation of War And Decision, that the media’s been sniffing around this for a long time, Doug Feith. But it was profound, it had enormous consequences for the war thus far.
DF: It did, and I mean, one of the points that I make throughout the book is that almost everything that…almost all the key elements of the conventional wisdom that people get from the mainstream media are…almost all those elements are inaccurate. And part of the reason that they are so widespread and have become the conventional wisdom is that they came from people within the administration who did not support the President.
HH: Right, right, and that’s very important. And the distortions in the public record, which we’re going to go through, are many and important. But I want to start with a more global question, that War And Decision answers in a sort of backwards way. Six and a half years after 9/11, five years after the invasion of Iraq, does the American public, Doug Feith, have a good grasp on the network of jihadists, and the threat they pose?
DF: Well, we have some grasp of it, and I think in some respects, we have knowledge, and we’ve had some accomplishments. But as Secretary Rumsfeld used to emphasize all the time, we’ve got a thinking enemy. And so as we get on top of issues, the enemy adapts.
HH: Well, I think…my question was the American public, not our decision makers, but generally speaking, the average man or woman in the street.
DF: Oh, no. There, I would agree with you. There is, I think, I think that there is not, in general, an appreciation of the nature of this problem. And partly, it’s because the administration decided, and that this is I think one of the things that is most to the President’s credit, the President decided immediately after 9/11 that our main goal was not retaliation, but preventing the next attack.
HH: Yup.
So we gave up on going after Al Qaeda and invaded Iraq.
Yup.
Thinking about both Hewitt and Feith reminded me of one of my favorite literary stories:
One of modern poetry’s great symbolic and prophetic moments came in 1912, when Ezra Pound challenged Lascelles Abercrombie to a duel. Upset at the literary shenanigans of younger writers (as well as some old enough to have known better), Abercrombie had called for a return to Wordsworth; incensed, Pound issued his challenge, announcing to his intended victim that ‘Stupidity carried beyond a certain point becomes a public menace’. Offered a choice of weapons (and knowing that Pound was a practised, if eccentric, fencer), Abercrombie suggested that the two poets should bombard each other with unsold copies of their own books. As an image for what was to come — the struggle between tradition and innovation in the context of an enduring lack of public interest in poetry of either shade — the comic resolution of this quarrel could hardly be bettered.
Feith and Hewitt should be forced to hurl copies of War and Decision and Painting the Map Red at each other until they are both exhausted and unable to defend themselves.
Then we should release the hounds….




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TBogg!
sorry, I’ll try and restrain my enthusiasm next time.
Not.
Release the hounds!
A series of duels should be declared between the sane, intelligent voices on the left between teh sutpid, degenerate insane lunatics on teh Death Star.
Non lunatic sanity vs. Hugh Hewitt X Doug Feith=Photon Torpedoes down the small exhaust port just below the main port of intelligence, coherent thought and Death Star survival.
Boom goes the Death Star. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
DF: Oh, no. There, I would agree with you. There is, I think, I think that there is not, in general, an appreciation of the nature of this problem. And partly, it’s because the administration decided, and that this is I think one of the things that is most to the President’s credit, the President decided immediately after 9/11 that our main goal was not retaliation, but preventing the next attack.
HH: Yup.
Shorter Stupid: The main goal was to usurp the US Constitution and install a de facto one party state.
I’m a Green Party member who doesn’t much buy the argument that we’re already in a de facto one party state.
But then, I think 1-zip baseball games are sublime. (nyuck nyuck…)
But as Secretary Rumsfeld used to emphasize all the time, we’ve got a thinking enemy. And so as we get on top of issues, the enemy adapts.
You read his book just how much is Jane paying you?
Rumsfeld would be a afraid of a thinking enemy who adapts. Cause Rummy, Bushie and Petraeus don’t think they STAY THE COURSE.
The course seems to be we are richer lets outspend them? Which actually might have worked before oil went to over $100 a barrel.
So what is our plan? How have we adapted to the enemies plans do we have a clue what their plans are?
I blame the lack of multiculteral education in this country our *cough* leaders can’t think like the enemy, they don’t know what he wants or what he will do to get it.
between those who think ideologically, and those who are often called realists, pragmatists,
Now then just who are the realists suppose to be in the Bush Administration? Just how do they define realists?
Oh and what ideology do the Bushies believe in besides saying whatever they have too to get elected. When has Bush put principle over the the votes of his wack job base.
Never mind his base of economic elites.
Six and a half years after 9/11, five years after the invasion of Iraq, does the American public, Doug Feith, have a good grasp on the network of jihadists, and the threat they pose?
DF: Well, we have some grasp of it, and I think in some respects, we have knowledge, and we’ve had some accomplishments. But as Secretary Rumsfeld used to emphasize all the time, we’ve got a thinking enemy. And so as we get on top of issues, the enemy adapts.
6 years after 9/11 and we have some grasp of the threat? No wonder we are loosing all our military planners from Bush on down road the short bus.
Indeed. Objection, your Honor, assumes facts not in evidence.
Then we should release the hounds….
Why wait?
This new meme (at least never before articulated so precisely as now) is brilliant: sure, the past eight years have fucked the country over like a wholesale whore, but it’s only because the people who disagreed with the president called all the shots.
Yep, that’s right: Karl, Dick, Big Dubya and all the high-profile neo-cons with their fancy-ass theories were actually somehow powerless pawns in an evil game perpetrated by nefarious elements within their own hand-picked regime: those were the traitors who destroyed the economy, botched the war on terror and shredded the constitution; not “us”, we would have done it all quite different.
Nice, Doug, I like it. It’ll read really well in your conclusive bio: “Nu-huh, it *so* wasn’t my fault!”
The realists in the Bush administration were easily distinguished from the ideologues. The realists used the orange plastic drool buckets. The ideologues used the galvanized tin ones.
I wonder if they could hear the crickets chirping when they were done talking…
Stupidest fucking guy on the planet
Really how stupid is he? Cause being called the stupidest guy in the Bush administration is quite the negative achievement.
Perhaps a post on just how stupid is he is in order.
Feith and Hewitt should be forced to hurl copies of War and Decision and Painting the Map Red at each other
That’d be a hell of a lot of unsold copies, that’s for sure.
Actually, rather than hurling unsold copies of their excreable “works”, let’s pulp them (it’s going to happen anyway) and then force them to wrestle each other in a vat filled with the stuff.
Because one of the things in the pulp is acid, and I think I might pay to watch them wrestle in that.
The sputtering fools next job will be picking lettuce in Yuma. Then trying to collect the fifty dollars an hour McCain promised.
Instead of hurling (which, given the contents of these books, may take more than one form), I suggest dropping their books on each other.
From a great height – say, from an airplane.
While the books are still in crates.
We all owe Aaron Burr a debt of gratitude, too bad the gentlemans option
is off the table these days.
That’s a very good idea. I’ll second it.
Is the Ezra Pound quote up there because he too was a propagandist for the Axis? A call-back to the Nooners post?
“A thinking enemy”? don’t you, like Rummy, yearn for the days when all of our enemies were incabable of thought? War was so much simpler then. I swear, these imbeciles learned everything they know about waging war from reading “Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commando’s”
Well with people like Rummy and Dougie in charge, it’s no wonder why it’s become the clusterfuck it is, then.
Then we should release the hounds….
they’d go two blocks, get hungry, and come back home
LOL! ” I’m so struck by the deep division in the Bush administration first term, between those who think ideologically, and those who are often called realists, pragmatists, whatever. It’s a deep, deep division”
That’s as far as I got. Reality, whatever!