The endless Democratic presidential campaign has lurched from irrelevance to trivia, triggering a near-universal call to bring it to a halt.
The two states that voted on Tuesday -- Indiana and North Carolina -- are so unimportant to Democratic chances of electing the next president that it is unlikely Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would make more than a token appearance in either after one of them is nominated.
Unless John McCain butchers his campaign, he will be an odds-on favorite to continue the Republican winning streak in both states. Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry and a host of earlier candidates failed to make them competitive.
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I'm not sitting here saying that Obama (and, c'mon, it's going to be Obama) is going to win either one of these states and I'm also aware that turnout for Republicans was down because the senile old geezer has already locked up his slot, but it does seem that there are a lot of people voting Democratic and Obama is going to have a lot of money for GOTV.
Enough money to make McCain waste money in states he should own.
For reference in 2004:
Indiana: Bush - 1,479,438 Kerry - 969,011
North Carolina: Bush - 1,961,166 Kerry - 1,525,849
As the kids say: I'm jes' sayin'...
I also want to go on record as hoping that Obama picks someone with exteensive military experience as a running mate. Wes Clark (as I've mentioned before) or Anthony Zinni .
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Unless John McCain butchers his campaign,
Too late, beltway nitwit.
3 months after locking up the nomination is not the time to be shoring up the base– “I want more Supremes who’ll block nuns from voting!”
“I’ll make a better Bush!” is arguably the weakest campaign platform in the history of Presidential politics.
“I will do everything the same way that Bush has done but I promise you, my friends, that the outcome will be different this time.”
In other news, McCain christens
his wife’shis campaign plane “The Epic Fail.”I also want to go on record as hoping that Obama picks someone with extensive military experience as a running mate. Wes Clark (as I’ve mentioned before) or Anthony Zinni .
I want to go on record as hoping that sometime the freaking military is removed from its place at the center of American concern and governance. How far we have wandered from the Founder’s aims.
Um, Gen. George Washington?
The thing I find amazing is how McSame gets less than 80% even after sewing up the nomination.
Looks like Rush Limpdick should spend more time stroking the dittoheads into loving their candidate, and less time on his ”Operation Chaos” baby.
Isn’t there a South Park episode that has an Operation Chaos?
McCain: “I knew George Washington. I worked with George Washington and you, sir, are no George Washington.”
Ya know, this may not be the original thought that I think it is right now, but all of a sudden, Limbaugh/OpChaos seems to make more sense, in that perverse way that sense has been made over the last eight years.
As many have noted, if it’s close enough to steal, they will steal it. In the general election, the numbers will once again be almost 50/50, except that McCain will struggle saintfully to, oh, 50.6% or so, and the pundits will all claim that cagey Rush did it after all…they all voted Dem during the primaries, but all came home for the general. This, of course, will be patently false, but it will be an explanation, which they trust that we’ll buy, since we bought the last few.
I don’t know about Zinni, but I hope he does not pick Clark. I was one of those in 2004 who hoped that Clark would step forward in 2004 and save us from those stiffs. But when he finally did, he left me kind of cold. Not unlike McCain, it is very clear when you hear him talk that he has little background on domestic or economic issues.
Whomever the running mate is, he or she must be able to talk a good game on both the economy and foreign policy. Clark can only cover half. I don;t know who that person is. Too bad Madeline Albright is ineligible.
Invoking the Kristol’s Law here. If Broder says it, the opposite has to be true.
Hee!
I shoulda been more verbose, ’cause I agree with gregory on that.
George Washington was indeed a military guy.
‘Cept he told his most loyal subordinates that their highest duty was to set aside their arms and return to civilian life. And many of them took him seriously, and swore oaths that they would do so.
The whole Order of the Cincinnati thing looks kinda hokey sometimes, but it was also a pretty big deal - both insofar as what was asked for and given, and as a conscious choice to avoid the other path and the difference it made.
The American public has all ready had ENOUGH of this campaign!
I think Tbogg has a good point, we need a veep with the miltary stamp who just so happens to also be all for getting us out of Iraq. Clark’s experience in Bosnia would be huge for accomplishing this, and one of the drumbeats against Obama is this whole macho military thing; Clark or Zinni solves that.
I’ve got a friend who’s dad went to West Point with Clark and calls him the smartest man he’s ever known, even though this particular person is still a winger. Traditionally, about 75% of the military is republican; but I think that number has been in flux lately due to extended deployments, poor VA care, etc.
Man those numbers look sweet
TBogg -
have also touted Zinni (the only talking head who could find Iraq on a map!)thinking for a long time Dem would need to counter the terra terra terra crap - now, with $3 loaves of bread and $5 gallons of milk - and what that may be like come November, not so sure it’s necessary
I’d go with a non-politician who is a quick study with a strong sense of strategy and tactics, a guy who fought thru year after year of adversity and eventually found ultimate success.
“The next President of the United States is open!” was a game-changing moment in Obama’s ascent, so I’d pick the guy who said it — University of North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams for Veep.
Folks, there is one person for Obama’s Veep who stands head and shoulders above any other possibility:
Jim Webb, senator from VA. He’s an economic populist, way high integrity type who’d respect the office of the Presidency he’d be serving, was Reagan’s Sect’y of Navy, got a son in Iraq, etc. He’d be replaced in the Senate by appt. by VA Dem Gov. Kaine.
Webb for Veep!
“It’s Not the People Who Vote that Count; It’s the People Who Count the Votes”
apocryphal quote attributed to Grandpa Joe Stalin…
It don’t matter who votes for what this next election. This country entered the arena of South American style one party rule “democracy” in 2000. They’ll permit the “opposition” party to hold some meaningless offices and make noise now and then just to appease the population, but power has been and will be held by a powerful junta of unseen and never mentioned power brokers who all belong to the ruling party.
Guess which party that is?