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		<title>By: NakedMan</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9674</link>
		<dc:creator>NakedMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, after slinking away in shame for a day or two because of my earlier intemperate comments…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know what to say TomMil… I’m angry.  I’m afraid for my sons.  That makes me angry.  Because fear breeds anger.  I had to talk to a close friend about this to figure it all out.  I’m afraid, that makes me angry and I said some intemperate and not well thought out things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I apologize to you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, I’m afraid for my sons.  I get this sick feeling that if McCain is elected he’ll start another stupid war and things will get out of control and next thing I know my sons are off fighting a dumb ass war and in danger for no good reason.  And having seen dead people come home from war in the past I have all sorts of inner, unspeakable fears.  Don’t know what to say to you about that.  But did I mention I’m angry and possibly unreasonable?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can we just agree to not let this shit happen?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes to you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, after slinking away in shame for a day or two because of my earlier intemperate comments…</p>
<p>I don’t know what to say TomMil… I’m angry.  I’m afraid for my sons.  That makes me angry.  Because fear breeds anger.  I had to talk to a close friend about this to figure it all out.  I’m afraid, that makes me angry and I said some intemperate and not well thought out things.</p>
<p>I apologize to you.</p>
<p>Yes, I’m afraid for my sons.  I get this sick feeling that if McCain is elected he’ll start another stupid war and things will get out of control and next thing I know my sons are off fighting a dumb ass war and in danger for no good reason.  And having seen dead people come home from war in the past I have all sorts of inner, unspeakable fears.  Don’t know what to say to you about that.  But did I mention I’m angry and possibly unreasonable?</p>
<p>Can we just agree to not let this shit happen?</p>
<p>Best wishes to you.</p>
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		<title>By: TomMil</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9471</link>
		<dc:creator>TomMil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NakedMan;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Uh, what counts as close.  My stepson(18 yrs. old)? My son(11)?   The kid I watched grow up who hung around with my stepson since 5th Grade and basically grew up in my house? He is being deployed with the NJ  National Guard in the next month or two. Does he count? If not, I guess you got me beat 3 to 2 or maybe I only get credit for one, since my son is still very young. I’ll tell you what, you keep score, because my entire point was that none of that gives anyone else more or less moral authority to take any position.  Too much nuance for you I guess.  I am just happy you didn’t want more wars with those sons, because what could we say against a guy willing to sacrifice his own.  Why, it brings a patriotic tear to my eye just thinking about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NakedMan;</p>
<p>Uh, what counts as close.  My stepson(18 yrs. old)? My son(11)?   The kid I watched grow up who hung around with my stepson since 5th Grade and basically grew up in my house? He is being deployed with the NJ  National Guard in the next month or two. Does he count? If not, I guess you got me beat 3 to 2 or maybe I only get credit for one, since my son is still very young. I’ll tell you what, you keep score, because my entire point was that none of that gives anyone else more or less moral authority to take any position.  Too much nuance for you I guess.  I am just happy you didn’t want more wars with those sons, because what could we say against a guy willing to sacrifice his own.  Why, it brings a patriotic tear to my eye just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: jbk123</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9464</link>
		<dc:creator>jbk123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ehh, you might as well calm down NakedMan, because you can’t win with the Obama fans, who seem to think that if you perhaps prefer another Dem candidate in the primary  - ugh, that warmongering biotch, Hillary - then you are a racist,  simpleminded, rightwing freak.&lt;br /&gt;
 My original comment in this thread concerned - gasp - Tbogg’s actual post!! (which everyone seemed to have forgotten in all the mishegoss) when he said we can’t nominate Hillary because the press hates her so much: &lt;strong&gt;“Personally I believe that, by placing Hillary Clinton on the ticket, the party would be opening themselves up to four years of TV gasbags and bobbleheads going Full Metal Heathers and nattering on about the Hillary/Barack “relationship”, as if they were Jennifer Anniston and Brad Pitt, further lowering our already stupid political discourse.”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, good, let’s have Dowd and Matthews, etc. control who is nominated.&lt;br /&gt;
Again, there are plenty of valid reasons for you not to be for Hillary, and I will happily, gladly, joyfully!! pull the level for Barack come November… but why make the media’s approval a selling point for a candidate?&lt;br /&gt;
And yes, you Obamatards, I understand the media is a factor - but why should we let them control anything? They also whined that Al Gore should concede Florida three goddamn hours after the polls closed on election night in 2000. And that worked out well, huh? Vote Democrat come November - but don’t let the fucking media be the deciding factor.&lt;br /&gt;
Seems like Tbogg’s balls went away with Beckham’s!&lt;br /&gt;
(Haha, that’s for the freak who mocked me in another post for daring to — oooh — disagree with Tbogg. How dare I do that!)&lt;br /&gt;
Asswipe, I’ve been on the Tbogg site for a while - before I had to re-register with another name when he went over to firedoglake, and still don’t understand why the re-registration required a new name!  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehh, you might as well calm down NakedMan, because you can’t win with the Obama fans, who seem to think that if you perhaps prefer another Dem candidate in the primary  &#8211; ugh, that warmongering biotch, Hillary &#8211; then you are a racist,  simpleminded, rightwing freak.<br />
 My original comment in this thread concerned &#8211; gasp &#8211; Tbogg’s actual post!! (which everyone seemed to have forgotten in all the mishegoss) when he said we can’t nominate Hillary because the press hates her so much: <strong>“Personally I believe that, by placing Hillary Clinton on the ticket, the party would be opening themselves up to four years of TV gasbags and bobbleheads going Full Metal Heathers and nattering on about the Hillary/Barack “relationship”, as if they were Jennifer Anniston and Brad Pitt, further lowering our already stupid political discourse.”</strong><br />
Yeah, good, let’s have Dowd and Matthews, etc. control who is nominated.<br />
Again, there are plenty of valid reasons for you not to be for Hillary, and I will happily, gladly, joyfully!! pull the level for Barack come November… but why make the media’s approval a selling point for a candidate?<br />
And yes, you Obamatards, I understand the media is a factor &#8211; but why should we let them control anything? They also whined that Al Gore should concede Florida three goddamn hours after the polls closed on election night in 2000. And that worked out well, huh? Vote Democrat come November &#8211; but don’t let the fucking media be the deciding factor.<br />
Seems like Tbogg’s balls went away with Beckham’s!<br />
(Haha, that’s for the freak who mocked me in another post for daring to — oooh — disagree with Tbogg. How dare I do that!)<br />
Asswipe, I’ve been on the Tbogg site for a while &#8211; before I had to re-register with another name when he went over to firedoglake, and still don’t understand why the re-registration required a new name!  </p>
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		<title>By: NakedMan</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9455</link>
		<dc:creator>NakedMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I just wanna hit them in the face and break their goddamn jaw.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, I apologize specifically to “dsidhe” for making this comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I just wanna hit them in the face and break their goddamn jaw.”</p>
<p>OK, I apologize specifically to “dsidhe” for making this comment.</p>
<p>Sorry…</p>
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		<title>By: NakedMan</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9453</link>
		<dc:creator>NakedMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so… excuse me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My wife tells me I’ve been harsh, mean, stupid and useless.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have discussed this and I’ve been forced ( once again ) to admit she’s right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I apologize to everyone I’ve been harsh, mean, stupid and/or useless to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also apologize to Tbogg for using up his forum space.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s all just make sure St. John McBBQ doesn’t win this fall.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Um.. Tom, eh… I’m sorry man.  Just, I have a bunch of feelings all caught up in this and it’s not really a Hillary vs. Obama thing, it’s seeing the democrats tear themselves up again.  The frustration bubbles over.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:^(&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so… excuse me.</p>
<p>My wife tells me I’ve been harsh, mean, stupid and useless.</p>
<p>We have discussed this and I’ve been forced ( once again ) to admit she’s right.</p>
<p>I apologize to everyone I’ve been harsh, mean, stupid and/or useless to.</p>
<p>I also apologize to Tbogg for using up his forum space.</p>
<p>Let’s all just make sure St. John McBBQ doesn’t win this fall.</p>
<p>Um.. Tom, eh… I’m sorry man.  Just, I have a bunch of feelings all caught up in this and it’s not really a Hillary vs. Obama thing, it’s seeing the democrats tear themselves up again.  The frustration bubbles over.</p>
<p>:^(</p>
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		<title>By: NakedMan</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9451</link>
		<dc:creator>NakedMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“So, you know, not much sympathy that we hurt your feelings”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In your fucking dreams you hurt my feelings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;see, people are goddamn stupid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So, you know, not much sympathy that we hurt your feelings”</p>
<p>In your fucking dreams you hurt my feelings.</p>
<p>see, people are goddamn stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: NakedMan</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9450</link>
		<dc:creator>NakedMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, not this time bitch…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re so cool…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very fucking cool.  Not this time bitch?  Ok.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, not this time bitch…</p>
<p>You’re so cool…</p>
<p>Very fucking cool.  Not this time bitch?  Ok.</p>
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		<title>By: NakedMan</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9449</link>
		<dc:creator>NakedMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;someone says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“fail”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ZOMG…  LOL…. uh.. wut other stupid internets responz can I come up with?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love it when kids these days say “fail”… they’re so sweet and funny.  I just wanna hit them in the face and break their goddamn jaw.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, let me ask “u” something.  You ever seen you childood friend come home dead in a box from a war?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My cousin Mark Rose got shot down in a helicopter over the Mekong Delta in 1978.  He lived.  But then the agent orange got him and he died a few years later of brain cancer.  Oh well…  “fail”!  He was totally fucking fail!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have nightmares where I see one of my son’s faces in that coffin.  I know its just a joke or something to make fun of.  Go ahead, make fun of me… see if I goddamn fucking care. I mean hey, screw me, I have “three adult sons”  lol… zomg… fucking it’s so god damn funny they’re signing up for the draft.  LOL.. ZOMG… FUCKING FAIL…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just… fucking whatever.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone says:</p>
<p>“fail”</p>
<p>ZOMG…  LOL…. uh.. wut other stupid internets responz can I come up with?</p>
<p>I love it when kids these days say “fail”… they’re so sweet and funny.  I just wanna hit them in the face and break their goddamn jaw.</p>
<p>Hey, let me ask “u” something.  You ever seen you childood friend come home dead in a box from a war?</p>
<p>My cousin Mark Rose got shot down in a helicopter over the Mekong Delta in 1978.  He lived.  But then the agent orange got him and he died a few years later of brain cancer.  Oh well…  “fail”!  He was totally fucking fail!!!!!</p>
<p>I have nightmares where I see one of my son’s faces in that coffin.  I know its just a joke or something to make fun of.  Go ahead, make fun of me… see if I goddamn fucking care. I mean hey, screw me, I have “three adult sons”  lol… zomg… fucking it’s so god damn funny they’re signing up for the draft.  LOL.. ZOMG… FUCKING FAIL…</p>
<p>Just… fucking whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: SydB</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/on-potters-wheels-we-threw-our-pots/comment-page-1/#comment-9388</link>
		<dc:creator>SydB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jeralyn Merritt almost makes Ann Althouse look sane and reasonable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reading her crazy nonsense is a high-light of my day. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TalkLeft now has a certain Ellen James Society quality about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeralyn Merritt almost makes Ann Althouse look sane and reasonable.</p>
<p>Reading her crazy nonsense is a high-light of my day. </p>
<p>TalkLeft now has a certain Ellen James Society quality about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff105</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The media will make Obama look like the Manchurian candidate by next fall.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enough to over-come a quarter billion dollar Obama media blitz?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While running against a guy who can’t restrain himself from badgering a 14 year old girl over her t-shirt?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not this time, bitch.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The media will make Obama look like the Manchurian candidate by next fall.</i></p>
<p>Enough to over-come a quarter billion dollar Obama media blitz?</p>
<p>While running against a guy who can’t restrain himself from badgering a 14 year old girl over her t-shirt?</p>
<p>Not this time, bitch.</p>
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