Phyllis Schlafly, the woman who encouraged other women to be the housewife she never was, goes to Washington University to receive an honorary degree and all hell, wait... okay, all heck...no?...um, all kinda quiet breaks loose:
Some applauded while Schlafly was hooded. But about a third of the graduating students draped in the school’s green and black robes turned their backs to her, along with some faculty members sitting on the stage behind her. Many family members in the audience also took part. Three faculty members made the extra point of walking off the stage and then turning their backs from the audience. One of the protesters was Darla Dale, an assistant dean and a faculty marshal at the ceremony. Dale said she decided to participate after making sure the protest was intended to remain respectful. Dale said she strongly disagrees with Schlafly’s views on the role of women in society as well as with her work to defeat the Equal Rights Amendment. And students encouraged her to join them. "It felt good," Dale said of turning her back.
This leads Jim Hoft, the racist ninnyhammer of Gateway Pundit, to come down with a bad case of the Fluttery Blanches:
This is frightening and it is no different than what has happened in any other Leftist socialist state. The moderates or conservatives are assaulted, attacked, protested, abused until they are silenced.
AMERICA BETTER WAKE UP!!
Oh get a grip, Mary.
She was shunned, not stoned, you nit. Jesus, no wonder these guys can't win any wars; always bursting into tears at the drop of a slight, and piddling their pants at the sound of a loud noise.
It's not like "Leftist socialists" haven't given Schlafly a chance to speak her mind before:
Later, I try to get some straight answers from antigay crusader and Eagle Forum leader Phyllis Schalfly.
"You said in your speech in Escondido that you were very proud of the platform," I remark. Schlafly, who is celebrating her 72nd birthday this week, is wearing a blindingly bright, multicolored print dress, and her bleached hair is an exotic helmet, piled high on her head in hardened swirls and curls. "And yet the platform specifically calls for excluding gays from legal protection. How can you resolve this with the fact that your son is a homosexual?"
"Oh now, come on, is this really important to talk about?" she shoots back. Schlafly was horribly embarrassed in front of her religious Right chums when her son John came out reluctantly after being outed in 1992. It made Phyllis seem like a hypocrite and, worse, a hateful mother.
"Yes," I tell her, "it's certainly relevant."
"Well, look, I don't have a problem with any of that, OK?"
"You don't?"
"No. Look, my son is not going into the army or getting a marriage license."
"What about the fact that he could be fired from his job or thrown out of his apartment. Did you know that?"
"Uh, no," she says, her voice beginning to crack. "Look, this is not, just not, a subject to talk about. Go away. Run along."
"Oh, I think it most certainly is a subject to talk about," I say to her, whipping around in front of her as she attempts to turn away. "Ms. Schlafly, are you in denial about the fact that your son is a homosexual?" "Run along! Shoo! Shoo!" she says, becoming upset, gesturing with her arms. "Go! Shoo! I'm not putting up with this, I'm just not! Why can't you people just leave me alone? Why can't you just go away?" "Phyllis," I tell her, "we are never going away."
Oh. The humanity. Someone better get Hoft his laudanum and make room on the fainting couch because he doesn't want realism. He wants magic! Yes, yes, magic.
Calgon, take him away...
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You missed the other real cream of the joke. The commencement speaker at Wash U’s ceremony was none other than Chris Matthews! Yes, America’s leading antifeminist was paired with America’s leading misogynist. But Wash U was able to save on some energy costs; Tweety was probably so loud, they didn’t need to use a microphone or amps.
Let me tell you about this mother of all mothers. Back in the 1980’s a friend of mine was dating her son John. (No outing here…he’s openly gay.) She pretended he didn’t even exist. Case in point, one day John had an extremely near-fatal car crash. While he was clinging to life (he survived btw) guess who never came to the hospital to see him.
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AAbshier:
Look, I don’t like Matthews all that much, but calling him a ‘leading anti-feminist’ is rather inaccurate. He’s a garden-variety misogynist, mostly unconciously.
It’s not like Matthews is out there campaigning against equal rights for women - in fact, he probably supports equal rights. He’s just a regressive blowhard with a bunch of latently misogynistic attitudes that surface in various ugly and revealing ways in his political rhetoric.
That makes Matthews an idiot who should be talking to a shrink about his issues with women and/or his mother. It hardly make him a ‘leading anti-feminist’, though.
.
Seeing Schlafly as a bent old crone brings out the Boy Scout in me. I want to walk her into a street of heavy traffic and leave her there.
JGabriel,
AAbshier referred to Schafly as “America’s leading anti-feminist”. Matthews he called “America’s leading misogynist”.
How appropriate: an honorary degree bestowed on no less than a fictional curmudgeonly character, representing a bankrupt ideology (er, anti-ideology?)…
‘nuther asshat passing before our very eyes….(sigh)…. and presented to this idiot by a coward, to boot.
I really don’t know where these assholes go when they so radically fall out of favor, but let us hope it is a permanent place…and let us “trace their movements” as well….just in case: statutes of limitations, etc….
And let me just add a felicitous and completely superfluous f**k you on the way out the freaking door.
Shunning. I like that.
I was stunned when I came across a discussion of her in The Paranoid Style in American Politics. She’s been around a long time.
Shoo! ????
Pretty much says it all.
Schlafly as anti-Semite (from the linked article)?
Wow. Josef Goebbels couldn’t have said it any better. Our elections being stolen by those “establishment bankers and influence peddlers”. What’s next Americans with no birth certificates and brown people of any persuasion?
The 11th Commandment was “Thou shalt do as I say, not as I do”, wasn’t it?
Ah yes, the battle cry of the pasty white outrage junkies, shouted from the ramparts of the castle. Beaners, queers, hadjis, hippies….. they’re out there somewhere
pointing and snickeringplotting chaos.However, if the man-marries-housepet thing ever cranks up, do wake me for that one.
Yes, but of course you realize that shunning, unlike say water boarding or prolonged stress positions, is banned by the Geneva Conventions and is a crime against humanity.
A self-published populist treatise arguing that presidential elections had fallen into the hands of a cabal of Eastern establishment bankers and influence peddlers
This isn’t anti-Semitic.
One of those “Eastern Establishment bankers” was the very waspish W. Averell Harriman, mentor and business partner of Prescott Bush.
You know. The guy behind the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran.
http://iraniannationalfront.or.....rell_h.htm
The guy behind the overthrow of Diem in Vietnam.
http://tapes.millercenter.virg.....emoir.html
Phil may be a wingtard nitwit but “Eastern banking influence peddlers” like Harriman did have decisive influence.
http://www.tarpley.net/bush4.htm
while others couldn’t help but notice that the new Grand Kleagle seemed to have misplaced her rope and her Bible.
Schlafly is so toothless. She was so looking forward to that big appointment in the Reagan cabinet and administration after selling all women down the proverbial stream. Funny, how they ALL took her at her words and said thx for all the votes, now stay home, like a good little woman. She’s evil personified to me.
Shunning seems like an excellent response to all future appearances by Cheney or anyone from the Bush family.
I really think the hood should have been white and pointed.
pies in the face are quite fun too … too bad they missed Coulter. That’s another one that makes money buy selling out her own sex. Talk about your DC Madams.
Calgon, take him away…
MadgePhylis, you’re soaking in it…“gays in the buttermilk
shoo, fly, shoo”
Why would a previously respectable institution
like WashU want to bestow honorary
degrees on anti-intellectual buffoons like Tweety or Schlafly?
Was Krusty the Klown not available?
Or Jonah Goldberg?
I thought it was a protester popping an orange/black Gitmo number over her hair helmet when I first started reading.
wow.
She’s a St Louis native-Washington honors one of it’s own! Puke.
The anti-Schlafly student Facebook group grew immediately to 1,000 members, while the pro-Schlafly group was at 25 when this article, featuring this quote from their organizer, went to press in the campus paper:
Offhand, and OT, I have to wonder how many incorrect hits a campus paper with the url www.studlife.com gets daily….
Her hair style was very popular in the 40s and that about where she is stuck. I dislike some people but her I detest. She has caused some women to never reach their potential and that’s unforgiveable.
If only someone could yank dick’s chain as effectively, but he seems to exude more threatening anger when the subject is raised. “that’s an inappropriate question” and the clench of the jaw. grrr!
Hair style looks like “I Love Lucy” which would be fifties…that’s about when she had her formative years I suppose- born in the thirties.
Conservatives have been so arrogant and smug about being in power over the last three decades that they’ve even decided that the law and the Constitution don’t apply to them. Now that they have ruined everything they have touched, they are about to lose power, and their OTHER side will emerge - the one we saw so clearly during the Clinton Interregnum.
They’re about to become victims and martyrs. Again.
Brace yourself, because if there’s one thing these conservatives and neocons do better than delusional, self-congratulatory propaganda, it’s irresponsible blame-assignment and cries of self pity.
Because the conservatives are never responsible for anything that happens to them it’s always the liberals, socialists, pinkos and commies (and, privately, the various races that so afflict them).
It has always seemed to me that the genertion born in the thirties had more than it’s natural percentage of reactionaries- more than the generations that preceeded them or followed them
Snicker. Kudos to the young person who selected that domain name!
People born in the thirties belong to the generation that the presidency skipped.- We went right from a “greatest generation” president to two boomers…No one from the Korean War generation made the grade.
Gail Sheehey refers to my generation as “generation X” I believe. Just sorta got lost in the shuffle of so much happening so fast.
Here’s a woman who went off and got herself a law degree and then started bellowing about the traditional role of women. Born a catholic but I believe no longer a member of the church. Against gay rights but with a gay son.
Looks as if she’s one confused broad.
rut roh
is this kind of talk allowed on a foul mouth femblog?
Phyllis has proved that people of either gender can become dishonest Gooper Hacks–so she has done a lot for women.
Only by broads.
Disgraceful human being that Schlafly..wonder how often she calls chimpy and gives him an update on how to get us back to the 18th century??
Funny, that all sounds like Katherine Harris. Odd they play to type. Yuk
It’s more like early 20th century I think. There’s a myth spread by Reagan and others that there was a pastoral period in America documented by Norman Rockwell when everything was NICE! Everyone got along, there was no crime, everyone worked hard, and no one EVER got hungry…
They all learned about it from Shirley Temple movies er something.
this is the part of the story that bugs me so much. When ######## feel a little self awareness and gasp shame at what ######## they are, they feel silenced. It’s impossible to change their tune because change means they’re wrong. and that just won’t do. they’ll die.
It’s women like that who disgust me. If you want to be a homemaker and stay at home mother, that awesome! But what if you don’t? Force me into that round hole, please…no KY needed.
I was working in NY last week and on the radio the DJ was talking about men losing 300,000 jobs that month but women gaining 700,000 and just railing on it. “Shouldn’t take a job away from a man.”
How far we have not come. Sad.
Ok, sorry to blogwhore, but…
If you haven’t yet read this, please do. Bush Administration officials have been charged with war crimes.
Book Salon is up at fdl
Speak of the Devil.
Laura Dern will be playing Katie in
the HBO movie about the 2000 Florida recount.
Should be delish.
What, you mean America’s leading exponent of pulling women out of the workforce is a fucking hypocrite on family values, too? I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!
Hi MsJoanne
this is Teh Awesome. I saw it the other day. I like others would not call the occupation genocide in a legal sense, but morally I’m right with ya.
In addition, when watching KO last night review bush’s interview about “giving up” golf, he also had some remarks about oh, if I wanted to be cool I could sign the kyoto agreement or I could join the ICC. The offhand remark about ICC made more sense to me after reading your article.
I think he really does want to be “cool” so FU bush you creepy evil dweeb.
You have to wonder what is the thought process for the “honorary degree” business?
1) A recognizable name
2) Controversy
And the controversy usually means going against liberal values.
Does Liberty University have Dawkins as a speaker? Does Jerry Falwall’s University have Larry Flint as a commencement speaker?
Who are they trying to influence with these appeals to right wing “values”
Donors who have right wing money.
It has to be about money. So question them. “How much money will you be getting from the Tweety Crowd? the Phylis Schafly crowd? You are assuming all the rich people are conservative right-wing men? I hope that in a follow up the awarding committee will do an evaluation. “We got 300,000 impressions 28 percent postive 80 percent negative and 2 percent neutral. We got 3.5 million dollars in donations from three wealthy alumni. We lost donations from 30 donors but their donations were tiny, totally $300,000 dollars. In total it was a net positive. We can only measure the number of alumni who said they will give or not give based on what they told us, but the balance of cash shows that we benefit financially MORE from having conservative speakers. Liberal speakers that are controversial just don’t bring in any the big money. Based on the monetary results we recommend that next year the guests will be Rush Limbaugh for the speaker and Ann Coulter for the honorary degree.”
It was too late to do anything about this event so I really would LOVE to look at the follow-up so that these speakers don’t keep getting honored, but are in fact marginalized.
One thing that I also think that we need to think about is the steps that happen BEFORE the announcement. I think letters like this need to go out.
Dear Honorary Degree selectors:
You messed up. Big time.
We couldn’t stop you this time, but be advised your ill chosen selection of Schlafly will cost you.
We know you didn’t back down now because you didn’t want to look, “weak” you didn’t want to “lose face” and most importantly you didn’t want to piss off the people who suggested her and offered money if she could speak. (And if you didn’t get the promise of big money from some donor(s) for her speaking you really aren’t doing your job. Ask your development people how much money she will be bringing in compared to others.)
Your lack of judgment by ANNOUNCING this and then going through with it instead of floating it first to the people who would actually withhold money shows the entire community your disconnect from the development process.
Please prove that the Phyllis Schafly’s honorary degree and Chris Matthews speaking have lead to a positive influx of cash or significant positive press (even from the right-wing publications who you hope will say, “Wash U isn’t that bad, send them money.” As we have learned, the right wing is NEVER mollified. They will STILL consider you a hot bed of radical liberal thought unless you change your name an fire all professors not suggested by David Horowitz.
If you DO get money and positive press from the right-wing media please provide these results to the board when it comes time to provide the next Honorary Degree. Then we will have better information on the benefits of right-wing controversial speakers.
One final point. I know that there is a feeling that a college should expose students to ALL points of view. And that by exposing the students to radical right-wing points of view you are expanding their minds. I would believe this was a valid point if you also provided honorary degrees to genuine left-wing figures. And just to make the comparison fair, a left-wing figure who might get you big donor money as well (that you hope to get for Schafly.) May I suggest…
(Interestingly I drew a blank just then. Who WOULD be the right person? Oprah?)
the genertion born in the thirties had more than it’s natural percentage of reactionaries
Please, my mother would have a fit. Schafly was born in 1924.
Book salon upstairs so I’d like to post a tidbit from my favourite journalist from today’s Independent:
Mr Robert’s column is here.
Thanks for the incredible and thorough article. U.S. must seem to the rest of the world like Bartleby the Scrivner (Melville short story) who refuses to budge and drives his employer INSANE.
Ward Reilly, VietNam vet against the war, made an attempt at executing a Citizen’s Arrest.
full article: http://www.baltimorechronicle......illy.shtml
Great Fisk column, I’ll need that book. Always good to get the locals perspective of events. I always enjoyed talking to the local folk and trying to find out what they thought about things. It was when I knew Marcos was toast, when someone against him was willing to say so to me.
What a great story…NPR today had a feature of the burning of draft cards in 1968. Of course, they were prosecuted. What gutsy people….you, too. Thanks.
Can’t wait; I have written before about a local commentator who nailed her from the beginning. The movie surely cannot beat SNL…omyGod.
Thank you for the link. Should be required reading.
Thanks, RevBev. Ward Reilly was so civilized about it and absolutely justified and within his legal right. Talk about truly walking the walk. Alas, I talk the talk… but putting it on the line by doing something like that. Living in the land of the solution.
Norman Solomon said something like we don’t even have TIME to be pessimistic. We gotta take action. Naomi Klein says the window of democracy closes fast once it starts to shut.
What an Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole we are trapped in. Some paying the ultimate, soul-numbing (to the rest of us) price.
And Ward was right. They are using our tax dollars to perpetrate war crimes. In our name.
Can we undo the coup?
Interesting that they seem to want affirmation from the very groups that “assaulted, attacked, protested , abused” them. Nobody made her go.
Talk about walking the walk in YOUR shoes!
Thank you for your courage and voice of sanity. So much compelling in your tale. The alignment of the normal in and out with the surreal. What a paranoid culture, a NATURAL consequence from sustained terror. I suddenly think of Joseph Heller’s Catch-22 paradox. Those acting normal in an abnormal environment are NOT the normal ones.
The stuff about religious difference. Sounds like the ethnic/racial gang divides in prisons. Before prison, not a big issue. I heard that in Iraq people didn’t care or know often if people were Sunni or Shia before we arrived.
Take care of your precious self. Thanks again.
Rev, History Channel has Tom Brokaw narrated a special called “1968 The Year That Changed Everything”. I donn’t see it scheduled, I bought the DVD, which is always out on loan! Here is the Homepage.
Sorry, SD, I thought it was posted by Fisk. Maybe will send it upstairs, too? What an article.
Back around 78′ when I wasn’t the fine upstanding citizen I am now, I found myself face to face with the front door of the Eagle Forum offices in Alton, Illinois one evening after consuming copious amounts of adult beverages at a local bar. “Phyllis F@#$%&* Schlflay,” I said, “May you rot in hell.”
I then proceeded to discreetly unzip my pants and shower the door with the recycled remains of the fine products of the Ahneuser-Busch brewery from across the mighty Mississippi River.
I wouldn’t do such a thing now, of course. But, I am glad I did it then. She was a crazy old lady even when she was young. Piss on her.
This is far below the standards Washington University is known for. Who’s next? George Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Brownie, how about Rush Limbaugh?
At least she was an alumna, however unfortunate that may be for Washington U. If the institution was unable to ignore or deny that sad fact, perhaps it is only prudent to attempt to capitalize on it.
makes wonder if the human excrement in front of my office door this morning was a political statement.
nice way to start the day….
Mr Robert commenting at FDL? What a coup that would be!! Having read him for years I’ve become like those with whom he meets and interacts. Calling him Mr Fisk seems somehow impolite or disrespectful. “Mr Robert” distinquishes him from the rabble of our traditional media. A man of real courage, both physically and intellectually. There are oh so many of these pampered pundits who have not the courage to put his shoes on, much less walk in them.
Not much like the old days, is it? There used to be combat footage on the nightly news regularly. They have done one hell of a job sanitizing war. No fighting, no bleeding, no dying, no medevacs, no bodybags, no flag covered coffins, and NO pResident at any Service Member’s funeral (but he did lie about giving up golf, that forkin’ dork!).
The cheese got a little too binding for our esteemed members of the pundocracy when Woodward got injured. The figures on dead journalists has also helped to convince them that reporting from the front lines is not necessarily a wise career choice.
Hey Southern Dragon, was that your remix featured on crooks and liars? kudos!
Well they were “embedded” for a while, whatever that got us.
I like the idea of contrasting the pallets of cash to iraq with the measly “stimulus” check we are all about to receive. That story should be resurrected in this time of rising food and gas prices. That should stimulate something.
The O’Reilly dance remix? Sorry, but nope. I wish I were that talented. I have neither the software nor expertise to do that.
You said it. I have to sort of not focus on her or I just might combust.
There is but one word to describe the Right and their easily offended sensibilities…
PUSSIES!!!!!!!
This is frightening and it is no different than what has happened in any other Leftist socialist state. The moderates or conservatives are assaulted, attacked, protested, abused until they are silenced.
AMERICA BETTER WAKE UP!!
Let’s see…because she was bestowed an honor, and some people chose to communicate their displeasure with her being so honored, in a way that did not a) endanger her, b) physically or verbally intimidate or threaten her, c) silence her, d) interfere in any way with her speaking or receiving honors…this is no different than what would happen in any other fascist state?
Now that he brings it up, I seem to remember that civil, non-violent displays of dissent were a prominent feature of the Nuremburg rallies….
Her gay son works for her, you know. For many years he’s managed her business affaris and speakign engagements.
No surprise he’s a leather bottom.
if i remember accurately, washington u is a jesuit school.
phyllis and chris are both catholics.
Oh get a grip, Mary.
Mary? Mary’s a *boy’s* name.
Who moved the fainting couch?
Wash U. was founded, by amongst others, T.S. Eliots’ grandfather, and was founded as a school for Unitarians.
Class of 81 FYI.
Yeah, I think I was reading everything too fast. But someone with such profound courage, showing up on the front line and seriously reporting. I am ashamed at how glazed over my eyes get trying to fathom mid-Eastern politics and history. Even our history. But Jefferson has a quote about the price of freedom being eternal vigilance.
Thanks for turning me on to Robert Fisk and the Independent. Courage is contagious, and reading about those on the front line physically AND intellectually and ethically is empowering.
The Independent is the best major English-language newspaper in the world.
Fisk is awesome, the rest of the editorial staff is hardcore for the truth and the sport coverage is unparalleled in a quality daily.
They even have space for the opinion of a pissant expatriate American doctor on the foolishness of wild-eyed panic reporting on a disease none of us died from…
http://www.independent.co.uk/o.....55988.html
Thanks to her efforts, the country is far worse off than it would have been without her. So I guess she had made a difference in her lifetime.
So she got discommendated? Sweeeet. Clearly, there is much that we can learn from our Klingon brothers.
Goodness, or fluttery femme words to that effect, each and every one of your metaphorical put-downs for this guy’s over reaction is as sexist as - my Uncle Bob. And the comments section - “PUSSIES”. Wow, I guess I’d better stick to my “sensitive new age guy” blogger groups!
Children of the 30’s had the unique position of being too young for WWII and Korea but too old for Vietnam. And yet they are the most blowhardedly patriotic generation up to the current too young for Vietnam generation. Amazing how those who never went know so much more about war than those of us who did.