Doug "Fredo" Feith: "I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like
everybody says ... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!"
There are a lot of soft white underbellies in the Bush Administration and it looks like Iran knew how to get to them:
Defense Department counterintelligence investigators suspected that Iranian exiles who provided dubious intelligence on Iraq and Iran to a small group of Pentagon officials might have "been used as agents of a foreign intelligence service ... to reach into and influence the highest levels of the U.S. government," a Senate Intelligence Committee report said Thursday.
A top aide to then-secretary of defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, however, shut down the 2003 investigation into the Pentagon officials' activities after only a month, and the Defense Department's top brass never followed up on the investigators' recommendation for a more thorough investigation, the Senate report said.
The revelation raises questions about whether Iran may have used a small cabal of officials in the Pentagon and in Vice President Dick Cheney's office to feed bogus intelligence on Iraq and Iran to senior policymakers in the Bush administration who were eager to oust the Iraqi dictator.
Iran, which was a mortal enemy of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and fought a bloody eight-year war with Iraq during his reign, has been the primary beneficiary of U.S. policy in Iraq, where Iranian-backed groups now run much of the government and the security forces.
And who was the conduit of this information?
Our old friend from National Review and PJ Media:
The aborted counterintelligence investigation probed some Pentagon officials' contacts with Iranian exile Manucher Ghorbanifar, whom the CIA had labeled a "fabricator" in 1984. Those contacts were brokered by an American civilian, Michael Ledeen, a former Pentagon and National Security Council consultant and a leading advocate of invading Iraq and overthrowing Iran's Islamic regime.
According to the Senate report, the Pentagon's Counterintelligence Field Activity unit concluded in 2003 that Ledeen "was likely unwitting of any counterintelligence issues related to his relationship with Mr. Ghorbanifar."
The counterintelligence unit said, however, that Ledeen's association with Ghorbanifar "was widely known, and therefore it should be presumed other foreign intelligence services, including those of Iran, would know."
Stephen Cambone, then the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, shut down the counterintelligence investigation after only a month, the Senate report said.
And who was gullible enough, as well as predisposed to believe what he heard?
Why, the "fucking stupidest guy on the face of the Earth", that's who:
When the CIA and the State Department discovered that Ledeen and Ghorbanifar were involved, they opposed any further contact with the two. Ledeen's contacts, the Defense Human Intelligence Service concluded, were "nefarious and unreliable," the Senate committee reported.
According to the report, Ledeen, however, persisted, presenting then-Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith with a new 100-day plan to provide, among other things, evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that supposedly had been moved to Iran — Saddam Hussein's archenemy. This time, the report said, Ledeen solicited support from former speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich and from three then-GOP senators, Sam Brownback of Kansas, Jon Kyl of Arizona and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.
Tomorrows spin will be that they were still right...but for all of the wrong reasons, which is a stepchild of Megan's Law.
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Suddenly, “The Tailor of Panama” is looking less like satire and more like a 100% accurate picture of how governments and intelligence agencies operate.
Funny, in a really fucking sad kind of way.
Incompetent or evil? The debate rages on.
Incredible that this could happen with a Preznit that was so involved and into the intelligence reports. Oh, wait.
Can we choose both?
Looking in disgust at the flaming wreck that is Larry Johnson’s credibility I can’t help but wonder if he’ll be the next Ledeen — you know, brandishing his ex-intelligence officer (hah! was that term ever abused more incorrectly?) credentials with a determined belief that “what’s bad for Obama must be good for the nation.” I wouldn’t put it past him to go off and try to outdo the neo-cons in sheer incompetence and fuck-uppery. Hopefully his rantings over at noquarter has rendered him beyond redemption, and his sheer toxicity may help keep him away from doing any damage during the Obama administration…
So is this why Valarie Plame was outed–because in her position investigating nuclear, biological and chemical weapons she might have stumbled across these idiots and the ultimately successful Iranian effort to persuade them to attack Iraq?
And then prosecute.
Hmm, I wonder if Emptywheel will be following up on this angle? Or, is the explanation as simple as those fucking idiots are just so fucking stupid they thought that they really would hurt Amb. Wilson by revealing his wife’s identity?
And then when it turned out that Plame’s work (and U.S. security )was compromised they just said, “oh, well.”
Yes, the correct explanation is “incompetent AND evil.”
It looks like Cheney et. al. might have come up with a twofer: Discredit Wilson and cauterize any connection to an Iranian intelligence operation. While the Wilson thing blew up in their faces, the cauterization project seems to have worked–at least until now. Just when I think the last eight years can’t produce any more anger-inducing astonishment, they do.
No shit.
Sob.
Yeah, and I hate to be a pessimist, but they’ll probably get away with it.
Thieves selling shit to idiots
And let me get this straight: In what may have been the most successful intelligence operation in recent world history, Iran takes out both their chief regional rival—Iraq—and co-ops their main worldwide enemy—that would be us—by passing lies to a credulous bunch of right-wing Republican loons who have bought into the crackpot neocon theories of a gang of ex-Trotskyites. And DEMOCRATS are so terrified about appearing out of touch on national security they let them get away with it. That about cover it?
Ledeen gets my vote as “the creepiest creep” in the whole rogues gallery of swindlers and propagandists who conned this country into this war of conquest, this oil grab, this “aggressive war” in Iraq.
“Karl Rove’s Brain” — Veteran neo-con advisor moves on Iran, by Jim Lobe:
CIA spooks Vincent Cannistraro and Philip Giraldi tie Ledeen to the Niger forgeries, via Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans — aka: “The Lie Factory.”
Get your Google on.
When you fill the buildings with fools who think they’re not…
I digg it!
Why the US doesn’t ally with the smartest nation on the planet, namely Iran, is beyond me.
They run circles around everyone for God’s sake.
-G
Iran pulled off the biggest con in history. The Bush administration’s conning of the American people is child’s play compared to what the Iranians pulled off. The beauty of it — as in ‘The Sting’ is that the victim of the con can’t claim he was conned.
If it weren’t for all the dead and maimed persons that resulted from this folly, it would be entertaining. As it is, there will be war crimes subpoenas out for Bush and his cronies within a decade.
Knut, you are da man!
yea, netanyahu….hire these guys.
Yes, that about covers it. Stupid and evil!
Iran (formerly known as the Persian Empire) has been at this game for thousands of years. Even their religious fanatics play a mean game of chess.
I sooooo wanna see those subpoenas served!
The trial of the friggin century.
can there be more than one stupidest f*cking guy on the face of the planet?
So, I wake up to this headline:
Of course, they want us to do it for them and take the casualites and direct political blowback, but I don’t doubt they have their own factions eager to unleash the bombs unilaterally. And, maybe that’s what the Bu’ushies would want as well.
My questions, which I have been wondering about for a few years now are these: Can Feith, rummy, and all the other DoD war pimps be prosecuted after gwb is gone? Better yet, can “the dick”, rove, or gwb be prosecuted after 20 jan 2009?? Are these people going to get away with trashing the country? Actually I understand why impeachment was “taken off the table”. To many gwb clones still in congress. The votes are not there(yet-fingers crossed) But, according to the constitution, can the prez, vp, or any of their gang who could not shoot straight be prosecuted for any crimes that occured during the 8 years that gwb was prez? Can gwb issue a pardon to himself, the vp, rummy and rove so that they can escape free and clear. All this presidents men strike me as proving once again what was said about the germans after WWII. The banality of evil.
As long as yer not counting me, I’m fine with it.
Oh crap.
I kinda figured that was plan B. Hard environment for Bush to launch a war right now.
Defending our staunch allies Israel from Iran’s retaliation? Hell, Bush, McCain, and Obama are all on board for that!
Ding.
I think you’re off the hook. but I mean that in the kindest way… :~)
it’s an oxymoronic construction, but then a gain we are dealing with morons here.
Can I suggest another angle … that the “Iran duped US” line is an attempt to steer our focus away from the true evildoers … accept nothing they say at face value.
There is no Statute of Limitations on War Crimes.
The whole freakin’ administration is on a list somewhere.
“can there be more than one stupidest f*cking guy on the face of the planet?”
I think the latest polls suggest that actually describes about 25 percent of the U.S. at this juncture. Has something to do with quantum mechanics or something…
Suggested title edit:
“The Weakest Slinks”
O/t -
Anyone else watching the National Conference for Media Reform on Free Speech TV?
Rep. Keith Ellison now speaking.
The Dems have been more concerned about getting egg on their faces (by starting Impeachment Hearings) than not having the votes to actually impeach. The dems fear that the Republican controlled Media will make them look bad. They are right about that. The Media will try to f**k them sideways. That is the price of Democracy, ergo, they refuse to do their jobs.
The collegial Senator Harry Reid personifies both houses of Congress.
You deserve the sleakest wink for that on punaise …
Bravo!!!
Oh no, evil wins hands down.
The incompetence is just an added bonus, like the cherry on a sundae.
Wasn’t Ledeen’s daughter one of those illustrious “Loyal Bushies” right out of college who were sent to Iraq immediately after the invasion to set up the banks and stock market and such? You know, the ones with no experience or expertise at anything except GOP worship.
((((Quaker girl))))
I think we may have a nominee for the Most Fu*king Stupid Woman on Earth.
Courtney Hazlette of MSNBC calls Spike Lee “uppity” on air.
-G
Yer shittin’ me.
Good Lord these people have chutzpa.
Feith is not as stupid as he looks, but he looks very stupid. Tommy Franks and Feith simply weren’t on the same page. Different planes of reality. General Franks was concerned with logistics and execution. Feith was an idea man. Franks the realist and Feith the abstract thinker. /s
I saw that. because Lee was criticizing Clint Eastwood’s movie on WWII vets and there was no protrayal of black vets.
i guess Spike forgot his place, huh?
;~)
Played us like a violin.
Thanks for the post, one fresh hell of revelation. The elevator keeps on going down to deeper levels of evil and incompetence of the neocons … their evolution from Nixon days … they steadily became more and more powerful as they simultaneously became more warped and willful.
Jefferson says the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Tom, we blew it!
“Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.”
- Michael Ledeen, in a speech to the American Enterprise Institute
no post about falsified “evidence” can go without this you tube
it shows cheney’s “team b”, a group of people who’s only purpose was to provide false data to justify cheney’s intention
after that eye opening video you have to read how he made up bullcrap under the nixon administration as well
he is a sociopath
This is pretty interesting.
link
He’s a fucking fascist.
I have to defend doug in this instance, he was NOT “gullible enough” to believe this, he knew they were lies and he knew he was fabricating data to accomplish the agenda for the adminsitration
no gullability in this regard at all
badwater points out over at the lake that since cheney is a “so”ciopath he is allowed to say “so?” when his policies are known to be depraved
The next paragraph is also telling:
Ugly dude.
And this person is in a position of authority somewhere? Oy.
Omg.
That is unbelievable.
have never understood why Franks has had cover for so long -
this is the guy who
blew by ammo dump after ammo dump - waving off anyone wanting to secure the area
sent the entire intel group back to FL 3 days in to the invasion
approved and insisted on Rumsfeld’s leaner meaner plans which left convoys like that of Jessica Lynch and so many others without standard armed cover
of course, there’s plenty more . . .haven’t read any of the Sanchez book - does he have anything to say about Franks ?
Blacks fought in small numbers in the French and Indian Wars and in very large numbers during the Revolutionary war as free men and as slaves. Their participation in the war against the British meant the difference between winning and losing. Blacks have been fighting our wars ever since. Spike Lee is right. Eastwood is promoting the traditional and cockeyed version of history that ignores or downplays the contributions of African Americans in our history and culture.
I swear Doug Feith went to my highschool in northern Michigan(and played the harp, too).
Can anyone find out? If it’s the same guy — he must have done way too much weed!
Just passing by to say that this group of neo-cons (PANC) sounds very much like the Cambridge Five (Kim Philby et al).
“Rhode and Ghorbanifar met again in Paris in June 2003 with at least the tacit approval of an official in Cheney’s office, the Senate report said.”
“at least tacit approval” *blech* talk about keeping one’s hands clean.
There was the Paris meeting in 12/ 2001 and the meeting in Rome.What was the date of the break into the embassy in rome when the stationary and stamp were stolen?
Leeden’s had a long and illustrious career (from wiki):
“Ledeen was involved in the biggest foreign policy scandal of the Ronald Reagan administration. As a consultant of National Security Adviser Robert C. McFarlane, Ledeen vouched for Iranian intermediary Manucher Ghorbanifar, and met with Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, and officials of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the CIA to arrange meetings with high-ranking Iranian officials and the much-criticized weapons-for-hostages deal with Iran that would become known as the Iran-Contra scandal.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
“done way too much weed!”
Nuthin’ wrong with that. But then, I didn’t get us into a war.
Got that backwards, Rome was the first meeting with ledeen and the second was in paris.
tbogg segues from comedic to seriuos as smoothly as Jon Stewart
perhaps Sibel Edmonds could answer a few questions relating to Ledeen and his mileu, when she is called to testify in front of one of the many vigorous, determined congressional inquiries into the crimes and malfeasance of the Cheney regime.
>crickets
>crickets
oh yeah, there aren’t any of those investigations, the (D)’s are only doing phony, kabuki, posturing investigations, easliy brushed aside and forgotten.
and all the while remaining somewhat popular and spot on.
Preznit Chickenhawk thread from BT up top… come join in the fun!
Gosh, sporkovat;
I get the sense that you figure that Congress hasn’t got the sense to get it.
But they do get lots of $ and other ‘things’ not to get it …
In, oh, so many ways.
But you still got hope for them, right?
OCBruce said it better than I ever could:
Thieves selling shit to idiots
He is a fascist, but Machiavelli was not wrong in his assessment of how fear can be a motivator, just like greed and love. Obama has read Machiavilli, too. If I were a guilty rethug, I’d be afraid, and I’d have reason to be.
Fitzpatrick for AG!
Maybe the choice is, maliciously incompetent or incompetently malicious?
Wow. Was it really necessary to clone Steve Forbes?
The Iranians have been using Ledeen, Ghorbanifar, Cheney, Bush Sr. and the rest of the right wing cabal for the past 30 years. Ledeen and Ghorbanifar figured prominently in the October Surprise in 1980, Iran-Contra in 1983-85, and who knows what other as yet uncovered schemes. Iranian intelligence has been skillfully manipulating these idiots for a long time and the past 8 years must seem like a never ending buffet to them. It shouldn’t be surprising that a right wing clown like Doug Feith was used by the Iranians. They’ve been getting exactly what they want from these “tough” Republicans for years. I’ve always suspected that one of the reasons Bush and Cheney are so fired up to attack Iran before they leave the White House is to get their hands on and destroy all of the incriminating evidence the Iranians have collected for the past 30 years.
Either that, or the dumb fucks just realized how well they’d been played for the last 30 years and now, in full redneck glory, they are right pissed.
I always figured that both Iraq wars are due to anger at Saddam not continuing to play ball their way. It sure didn’t help that Iran was playing this expertly; that must feel extra sweet to them after all the casualties they took in the Iran-Iraq war.
Seems to me the big problem future historians will face when studying the Bush years will be trying to figure out what was unwitting treason and what was witting treason.
I so agree. Iran contra. CIA training of bin Laden. Our press stopped being detectives long ago, too. All those unethical, illegal, immoral, amoral, self-aggrandizing decisions.
Scott Peck says laziness is evil to the nth degree. What atrocities will and have these bastards let happen so as not to be accountable for past sins. How monstrous and egoist.
In Zimbabwe now the election is based on vote for me or starve to death literally. It has been a long slippery slope there. But evil not stopped keeps on progressing… fresh hells. Look at the Katrina folk.
It has been a long slippery slope here. Or should I say we are all boiled frogs who have barely noticed the depths of corruption we exist in, getting more and more uncomfortably warmer and oppressive with each successive term, and we have got to face responsibility, too.. .these bastards were bankrolled by our tax dollars to perpetuate their monstrosities. To fill the wallets of their friends. To destroy American and non-American lives and the quality of countless, COUNTLESS lives.
A couple of things. Speaking from my knowledge as an Army Platoon Sgt(I got out in 1980 as a 100% disabled vet) The convoy that Lynch was in got into trouble not because they had no cover, but because they had no training. No training in how to run a convoy-yes it takes training to make each soldier understand what they are supposed to do.(currently here in SA at Camp Bullis training is underway to teach AF people how to operate in convoys.-Yes, both AF and Navy personnal are being “volunteered” to go to Iraq because there are not enough Army troops, who, by the way, are all operating as infantry, even tho most are not trained to operate like that. I mean that people like cooks, administration, mechanics, air defense, missile, commo, etc. etc. etc. That is one reason why they need at least 1 year at home. To retrain them back into their MOS)Besides being untrained the Lynch convoy was very poorly led. The OIC-officer in charge-got lost. Granted their should have been an MP post at the point where the road turned. But since at least every convoy commander had a GPS, and because rummy wanted a lean mean invasion, I suppose that the MP’s were not around. My understanding is that they(lynch convoy) had machine guns, but that they, like the M-16’s carried by each soldier, were dirty, and in the most part not able to be fired. Side note: 1 person, a male sp4, did in fact open fire, and managed to kill many of the enemy before he was overrun and killed. I don’t know if he was awarded any medal, but he should have gotten, at the very least, the Silver Star. The convoy-all supply troops-was untrained because they and their commanders did not take the invasion seriously. I guess that they listened to cheney, and expected to be greeted with hugs and flowers. I also do not know if anyone in their chain of command was ever tried for negligence. They should have been. Those poor supply people had no idea what they were getting into, had neither been trained in their weapons-more than once a year-or trained and practiced in how to responed to an ambush.
Second subject. What has happened with the Abramoff scandal? and any others, besides Ney and Duke who got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. This investigation has been going so slow that it might as well be at a dead stop. Will we have to wait until a new prez and new people at DoJ? What about the statute of limitations? will anyone get off free on that?
So well said. Thank you. Our brave whistleblowers, probably like the trusting Iraqi helpers long ago, TOTALLY BETRAYED. Going the distance with their courage to be gagged by pseudo-leaders who sold out their honor and integrity to get their glorified position which must not be risked for integrity and justice. Other countries know more of Sibel’s story than we do here. how creeeeeeeepy is that.
kabuki investigations.. brilliantly put…. kabuki posturing of Congress…
crickets… such a great touch!
The thought of the salaries we’ve paid these a**clowns, and the money that they have wasted gives me even more incentive to look for loopholes in next year’s taxes.
Ledeen is filth. Unelected, unappointed, one of the worst operatives in ‘deep government’ for the past quarter-century. For whose government, though? That’s the unanswered question.