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		<title>By: moondancer</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11867</link>
		<dc:creator>moondancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the faster we get out the better the result.  There is simply nothing we can do there except die and kill.  And we will never be seen as anything but a money tit..and an occupier.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the faster we get out the better the result.  There is simply nothing we can do there except die and kill.  And we will never be seen as anything but a money tit..and an occupier.</p>
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		<title>By: SufferingBruin</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11866</link>
		<dc:creator>SufferingBruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As long as outside reading is aloud, I just read this on Altercation: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comw.org/pda/taskforceresponsiblewithdrawal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.comw.org/pda/taskfo.....rawal.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“For those who say we’re damned if we stay and damned if we don’t.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as outside reading is aloud, I just read this on Altercation: <a href="http://www.comw.org/pda/taskforceresponsiblewithdrawal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.comw.org/pda/taskfo&#8230;..rawal.html</a></p>
<p>“For those who say we’re damned if we stay and damned if we don’t.”</p>
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		<title>By: fauxmaxbaer</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11864</link>
		<dc:creator>fauxmaxbaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well the wingers like to compare Obama to Carter. Maybe that’s the Bush plan, bomb Iran and cause them to grab however many thousand American hostages out of Iraq and saddle the new guy coming in with a ready-made hostage crisis.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the wingers like to compare Obama to Carter. Maybe that’s the Bush plan, bomb Iran and cause them to grab however many thousand American hostages out of Iraq and saddle the new guy coming in with a ready-made hostage crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff105</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11862</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes.  I did the essay portion, I’m just waiting for the true-false and multiples…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  I did the essay portion, I’m just waiting for the true-false and multiples…</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthie</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11860</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this going to be on the final?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this going to be on the final?</p>
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		<title>By: UgluksFlea</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11859</link>
		<dc:creator>UgluksFlea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As it stands, it appears that Iran is making the choice between sticking it to the US or achieving a more stable neighbor (once the US bugs out) by picking “sticking it to the US”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once the US pulls out, the chaos they have fomented to make the US bleed will fall right into their laps.  When the time comes for an Obama administration to have a regional conference and direct talks with all involved, I don’t doubt this will pointed to the Iranians in no uncertain terms with the expectation that they will walk back their negative involvement to avoid being hoisted on their own petard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A quick US pullout would give us a bloody nose, but Iran would absolutely get their share of splatter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it stands, it appears that Iran is making the choice between sticking it to the US or achieving a more stable neighbor (once the US bugs out) by picking “sticking it to the US”.</p>
<p>Once the US pulls out, the chaos they have fomented to make the US bleed will fall right into their laps.  When the time comes for an Obama administration to have a regional conference and direct talks with all involved, I don’t doubt this will pointed to the Iranians in no uncertain terms with the expectation that they will walk back their negative involvement to avoid being hoisted on their own petard.</p>
<p>A quick US pullout would give us a bloody nose, but Iran would absolutely get their share of splatter.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff105</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11857</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s nothing more American than when faced with a no-win situation — declare victory and depart the field!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the Sunnis of Anbar turned against Al Q in 2007, the last significant U.S. military objective was realized.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Iraqis don’t like foreigners — whether they’re American, non-Iraqi Wahhabists, or Iranians.  The claim that Iran or Al Q could take power after our departure from Iraq is reminiscent of the early 60’s claim that Red China would take over Vietnam if the US departed that country.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The strength of native nationalism is under-rated even tho the occupiers must battle it daily!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Iraqi Arab Sh’ia have more in common with their Iraqi Arab Sunni cousins than they do their Iranian co-religionists.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And &lt;i&gt;everybody&lt;/i&gt; hates Al Qaeda outside the mountains of Afgh/Pak.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The U.S. has already “won” the Iraq War and the longer we stay the less that “winning” gains us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s nothing more American than when faced with a no-win situation — declare victory and depart the field!</p>
<p>When the Sunnis of Anbar turned against Al Q in 2007, the last significant U.S. military objective was realized.</p>
<p>The Iraqis don’t like foreigners — whether they’re American, non-Iraqi Wahhabists, or Iranians.  The claim that Iran or Al Q could take power after our departure from Iraq is reminiscent of the early 60’s claim that Red China would take over Vietnam if the US departed that country.</p>
<p>The strength of native nationalism is under-rated even tho the occupiers must battle it daily!</p>
<p>The Iraqi Arab Sh’ia have more in common with their Iraqi Arab Sunni cousins than they do their Iranian co-religionists.</p>
<p>And <i>everybody</i> hates Al Qaeda outside the mountains of Afgh/Pak.</p>
<p>The U.S. has already “won” the Iraq War and the longer we stay the less that “winning” gains us.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisSGMM</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11856</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisSGMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was infuriating to read how the troops are being ground down by this administration. The exodus of Captains and NCO’s is going to hurt the Army for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;
OTOH, it was heartening to learn once again how clear-eyed some of the troops are. As usual, the grunts have a better picture of the situation than their leaders in Washington.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was infuriating to read how the troops are being ground down by this administration. The exodus of Captains and NCO’s is going to hurt the Army for years to come.<br />
OTOH, it was heartening to learn once again how clear-eyed some of the troops are. As usual, the grunts have a better picture of the situation than their leaders in Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: puravida</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11855</link>
		<dc:creator>puravida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tbogg, I hate it when you get serious.  Deadly serious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tbogg, I hate it when you get serious.  Deadly serious.</p>
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		<title>By: ericl</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/03/out-of-site/comment-page-1/#comment-11854</link>
		<dc:creator>ericl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Read it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, 5 to 6 years 4100 dead and 600 billion dollars and what have we created???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another Iran.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Someone needs to go to jail over this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Eric in Austin&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read it.</p>
<p>Well, 5 to 6 years 4100 dead and 600 billion dollars and what have we created???</p>
<p>Another Iran.</p>
<p>Someone needs to go to jail over this.</p>
<p>Eric in Austin</p>
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