You think 9/11 would have happened if Gore had been in office? seriously? You don’t think OBL & Co rolled the dice based on Mr Misunderestimated being in the big chair?

In all candor, yes, I’ve always thought it would still have happened, because I have a hard time believing that bin Laden et al particularly care who the President is — except when they’re trash-talking. It takes so long to plan the stuff; I think they go when they think they’re ready, not when they think the US _isn’t_ ready.

But Cliff105’s point is a good one too.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled Nader bashing.

My point is that there are people who supposedly want the same ends who disagree about strategy. Is it really necessary or even constructive to pull out the Rove playbook and the Freeper coloring book to address this disagreement?

So you think that if Gore had been inaugurated in 2001, we’d have been in Iraq?

Actually, I do. Because the Republicans would have drawn up an impeachment case against Gore right after 9/11, and Gore would have resigned (because the media would be blasting him 24/7 about how it would be the “honorable” thing to do, etc., and he really _would have_ been profoundly torn up about it). That would give us President Lieberman (brrr). And Pres. Lieberman would have gone to war in Iraq so fast it would leave a cloud of dust behind him, like a cartoon character.

Understood. I just don’t think Nader is helping anymore. He pops up every four years, lists the glaring problems that exist in our political process and government, damns them all and then goes into hiding.

There isn’t a sensible person on either side of the aisle who hasn’t shaken their head in agreement with Nader on many issues, but at this point he’s just become a scold, and to be honest, at this point I want someone, anyone, who will end the disaster in Iraq, investigate the past 8 years and bring at least some modicum of sense back to our foreign policy.