How many twists and turns and flips and leaps of logic did the revelation of John McCain’s Many Houses O’ the Holy inspire? Let’s watch our first contestant.
My third reaction was, hey, how many houses do I own? The answer, it turns out, is pretty complicated, what with property held in trust for my benefit and controlling interests in investments and such. It is either two — the house in Princeton that we live in and the house we are trying to sell — or some larger number up to six, including three houses in the Adirondacks held in a trust among all the descendants of my grandparents and a dual residential/commercial property that we rent.
So, if you put that question to me and I were unprepared for it, I’d probably have to get back to you too. And if I really did not want to be wrong and had a staff with an official position, I would refer you to it. Neither diminishes one iota my love of eating at Applebee’s, the joy I feel walking a boardwalk "down the shore," or my identification, such as it is, with the average Joe.
HEH: A reader emails, "I just want to know if Obama has ‘experimented’ with more illegal substances than McCain owns houses… Then we’ll decide."
Oooooh. He was doing so well until that last strained part comparing drugs and houses. He might want to ix-nay the ug-dray talk when Cindy McCain is mentioned. Too bad. Blew the dismount.
Next up, JuCo Toynbee, Donald Douglas:
Maybe this tack will play well in stoking latent working class resentments at inflation, housing instability, and rising unemployment. Maybe this meme will stick if the American electorate is undergoing a fundamental shift in ideological orienation(sic) toward the abandonment of free market competition and opportunity-based upward mobility. Or, perhaps Obama’s income-envy will play with those who harbor genuine revolutionary inclinations, and see the Illinois Senator as the vanguard of the proletariat.
More likely, Obama’s attack on McCain’s residential non-recollection reveals the candidate’s subterranean push to resurrect Great Society liberalism in America.
The judges have awarded extra points for "residential non-recollection". Still, the routine was fairly flaccid although the admission that marrying rich has become the American ideal of "opportunity-based upward mobility" is a quite refreshing.
Okay, your turn, Special Ed:
Kenneth Vogel comes up with the answer at Politico that eluded John McCain in his earlier interview. The actual number of houses owned by McCain is … zero. That’s right — the Senator doesn’t own a single property in his own name:
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The McCains have a pre-nuptial agreement that separates their finances. The “homes”, as Barack Obama and his campaign put it, are mostly investment properties in Cindy McCain’s trust. Since John McCain has no involvement in his wife’s business affairs, he would have little knowledge of the assets in her portfolio.
Of course, a couple of these aren’t investment properties. Cindy bought a condo for their daughter, for instance, and she purchased another in La Jolla for an elderly aunt whom she supports. The McCains live primarily in a 6600-square-foot condo in Phoenix and a three-bedroom condo in Arlington when Congress is in session. They also have a Sedona ranch that again is part of Cindy’s portfolio.
No doubt, McCain’s clumsy answer gave Obama room to poke fun at him as rich and out of touch at the same time. However, McCain himself doesn’t own any property and isn’t “rich”, and Cindy and her family earned their money honestly.
So basically John McCain may live in these houses but he is not of these houses, much like Nick Nolte in Down and Out in Beverly Hills. Interesting and unique if one disregards the fact that hiding behind Cindy McCain isn’t very McMavericky.
Red State takes a stab:
I see that you are making a big deal over the fact that your Republican rival owns several pieces of property, as if it were some major scandal. But if you really want to be accurate, you should note that John McCain owns no property at all, as all those houses are under his wife and children’s names.
I also see that your surrogates are mocking McCain’s age by suggesting that he is forgetful. You can kiss the senior citizen vote goodbye right now.
Or, John McCain is one step away from being homeless veteran living in a refrigerator box in the alley because his wife doesn’t trust him to own property much less share a joint checking account with her. Additional points would have been given if it had been pointed out the the refrigerator box would be only slightly bigger than the cage the former prisoner of war was held in when he was A PRISONER. DURING THE WAR. So close.
But no matter, because the Minnesota ButtMissile walks away with the gold:
The latest campaign kerfuffle is Obama’s effort to make hay out of John McCain’s inability to tell a reporter how many houses he owns. McCain mumbled something about condos and said the reporter should talk to his wife. Predictably, Obama is trying to spin this exchange as showing that McCain is "out of touch."
I can relate, though. For example, if a reporter asked me how many ties I own, there’s no way I could answer. Just like McCain, I’d tell him he has to ask my wife. Likewise if someone wants to know how many Wii games my kids have.
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Touche, I guess. The truth is that McCain isn’t out of touch with "ordinary people" because he’s rich, he’s out of touch with his own domestic arrangements because he cares little about material things, and for many years has devoted his extraordinary energies not to enjoying his wife’s money, but to serving the American people. Given the number of nights he’s spent in hotels or on military bases over the last few years, it’s no wonder he hasn’t seen much of his wife’s condos
I believe that Hinderaker’s "because he cares little about material things, and for many years has devoted his extraordinary energies not to enjoying his wife’s money, but to serving the American people." may go down as the:
It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can’t get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.
of this campaign.
You have to give Hinderaker credit, nobody can give a tongue bath like him. But then nobody has quite the limber tongue like him…
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Bunch’a fucking assholes! Try this whining among people other than your country club fellows or the rest of the staff of your legal firm/despotic blather machine and see if you don’t get your ass kicked.
McCain cares not for material things? Does this make him a Buddhist? Did he convert in the POW camp? Enquiring minds want to know!!!
Gigolo John McCain says it all.
Is Tanya the new face of:
Leave John McCain ALLLLLLOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEE!!!! ?
I am trying to write a new anthem for the GOP. Funny, uncaring senile plutocrat is a hard rhyme with “whining serfs”.
John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.
alrighty then. with the compulsories out of the way I must harp on with my bad self
go over to MSNBC ‘Politics’ page (McCain Simply Nation’s Best Choice)
check out the optics and the eds. “McCain has lived his life serving the public” McC “wins over”, Obama is “tested” – ad f’ing nauseum
(and btw, haven’t seen Mrs. Greenspan since she was so mean to POW McCain)
CNN isn’t anywhere near this bad (although they are having trouble letting go of the ‘balance’ thing)
we expect this fanboy gushing from the aryan youth of right blogistan (although y’all better watch out, Mike Allen is carving out quite the career redefining tool)but dear gawd, did one of their spawn get
an intern edit gig ?
opportunity-based upward mobility
I think I overheard that at John and Cindy’s wedding, but maybe I’m confused and out of touch?
Cindy reportedly is “supporting” that elderly aunt, but over to HuffPo, they say that Cindy has defaulted on the taxes for that particular property for several years. Poor Auntie!
The idea that McCain doesn’t own any homes is bogus. If you look on his 2007 tax return (I can’t post a damn link to it) you will see he deducted $3,468 of real estate taxes. That amount is 50% of the total paid, $6,935 (see page 13 of the pdf for the “allocation of community property income and expenses”). http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainfinancial/
It is theoretically possible that those real estate taxes are for land and not a residence but that seems unlikely given that the McCains have gone to great lengths to report as little as possible on John McCain’s return.
McCain has many houses. Most of us don’t
McCain doesn’t know how many. Most of us do.
does this have legs?
My friends, it’s a spider…
No one could have predicted that the media would ask him how many houses he owned.
Lucky for Cindy and John, they have a private jet to reach them all. It would be pure hell having to drive to all of them.
My Lord, I am so glad to find out that McCain is such a saintly ascetic that he disdains all things in the material world. I easily can imagine Francis of Assisi doing something like this:
Plus it costs the McCains $270,000.00/year to employ enough people to maintain these homes. Luckily, the tax break he gives himself in his tax plan will more than cover that cost.
Barack “One House/One Spouse” Obama (h/t to DU)
This is alluded to above, but isn’t AZ a community property state? And does the whole segregation of finances businesses pass the smell test? And why don’t they share and share alike? How long does a pre-nup — the ultimate expression of trust and unity, no? — stay in effect? Is Cindy worried he’ll drop her like he dropped Carol when the makeup no longer covers the ravages of age (like Methuselah can talk)?
And what about dropping $700k on a condo for their daughter, in cash, as seen elsewhere? Who among us isn’t prepared to do likewise?
I think the houses and the private plane could see a lot of action in the months ahead . . . .
OK. “How many houses do you own?” might be a problem if there are a lot of them as investment properties. Then, SAY THAT. People understand investments. Most people can understand “2 — my primary home, and our vacation home, plus real estate investments” even if they can’t match it.
But, come on, don’t say I don’t know.
How many cars do you own? I think, most people could give a believable answer.
“How many children do you have?” You should ask my wife…?
Does the pre-nup indicate a lack of trust on Cindy’s part? Does she expect a man who was a POW to just throw her aside for a younger woman if he had the cash? Why would she think that?
Thanks. I needed a smoke after that! Nothing better than to throw their ridiculousness back in their faces!
OBAMA/HARDING ‘08
That’s the ticket! Tonya could be the attack dog. She could handle McSame.
Talk about “change” — I’m getting a shiver up my leg just thinkin’ about it.
Obama’s income-envy
As opposed to McCain’s what kind of envy? I think we know. Just ask Bob Dole about the future for failed Republican presidential candidates.
I’m thinking it very curious that the amount McCain paid for the domestic help has doubled in the past year. The amount/size of homes hasn’t doubled. Could it be that his handlers made Cindy fire the illegals?
Nawww…
“I also see that your surrogates are mocking McCain’s age by suggesting that he is forgetful. You can kiss the senior citizen vote goodbye right now.”
Not if they don’t remember that he said it.
These howls of outrage are music to my ears. I seem to recall a similar response by the schoolyard bully when I kicked his ass in the 6th grade.
The Olympics and the usual suspects come together to do your job for you. You’re the funniest man in the world and you don’t have to lift a finger. Absolutely hilarious and right on the mark.
It sure as f’ing hell will. Thanks for the present!
Tell that to my mother, who’s older than McCain and says McCain’s too old to be president.
Yes, I know several filthy stinking rich people who can afford that luxury.
I think the pre-nup was a contingency plan in case their common goal went unfulfilled.
He’s always wanted to be Prez.
She’s always wanted to be First Lady.
Failing that, she might likely be the dumper, Krusty the dumpee. If she can’t be First Lady, what would a trollop like her see in a cunt like him?
…for many years has devoted his extraordinary energies not to enjoying his wife’s money, but to serving the American people…
Well, that’s partly true. He very much enjoys being able to fly on her private jet to her luxurious ranch in Sedona to serve BBQ (and couscous – how elite!) to a large segment of the American press who think he’s the Bee’s Knees.
And who doesn’t like comfy shoes?
So, if you put that question to me and I were unprepared for it, I’d probably have to get back to you too. And if I really did not want to be wrong and had a staff with an official position, I would refer you to it. Neither diminishes one iota my love of eating at Applebee’s, the joy I feel walking a boardwalk “down the shore,” or my identification, such as it is, with the average Joe.
Oh Sweet Jesus. I may be richer than Croseus and older than Methuzzelah, but I still have the ordinary tastes of a fat diabetic who uses jagoff fake slang when talking about going to the beach.
Neither diminishes one iota my love of eating at Applebee’s. Painfully funny. Whom among us doesn’t love NASCAR?
HEH: A reader emails, “I just want to know if Obama has ‘experimented’ with more illegal substances than McCain owns houses… Then we’ll decide.”
ZING! I mean, what? I wonder if McCain has more liver spots than Obama has IQ points.
Everyone knows that true ascetics wear $520 Ferragamo loafers.
Krusty McHomeboy shoots himself in the foot while it’s still in his mouth.
Again.
Actually, I’m pretty sure the answer is no. So your decision is?
Oh yeah. The white guy. Right. As usual.
Krusty was here in Colorado a few days ago, and said that the Colorado River Compact needs to be renegotiated. You should have heard the screams. He must have forgotten that (1) he’s not running for senator of AZ, which always demands more Colorado water, and (2) he was not actually in Arizona at the time of this statement. One day later he retracted the statement in its entirety; how mavericky of him.
Then again, amongst the rethugs here this has always been Mitt! territory. Messin’ with Colorado’s water is a surefire way to send winger votes to Ron Paul, so thanks Krusty!
Lordy, TBogg… thanks for helping keep the world a little more sane.
I’d go to all those websites on my own, but unfortunately I lack the proper fire-retardant clothing.
How well I remember Arizona’s illustious former governor, man of the people J. Fife Symington, who had to resign after he was indicted. This McCain buddy and fellow S&L money beneficiary used a similar story when it came time for him to pay restitution to all the pensioners he was convicted of defrauding. Turns out the poor man was completely without assets; everything was in his wife’s name and couldn’t be touched. Sorry, retirees!
Arizona has a long, sad history of voting for the most venal, craven politicians imaginable. But there are signs that it may be waking up. Let’s hope the same is true for the country.
Two words: Evan. Mecham.
Well, I know most of these geniuses have selective hearing problems, but the problem with the “the correct answer is none!” response is that the reporter asked “how many homes do you and Cindy own”.