Comments on: Karl Rove’s Little Hot Soup Nazi

By: GWPDA

GWPDA — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:56:30 +0000

For people like you, party unity means Obama turning over his delegates to Clinton and apologizing to her for impeding her coronation.

Oh? Well, bless your little heart, DennisSGMM. It’s so nice that you know just exactly what ‘people like me’ mean…. Why, I declare, I just don’t know what I’d do without such a big, handsome thing as you telling me just exactly what’s right.

By: DennisSGMM

DennisSGMM — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:42:05 +0000

Paging DRZen: The cranky fogey is white and has spent the last several years being lauded by the press as a heroic maverick.

By: dmac

dmac — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:33:48 +0000

nelson–leslie sanchez. NOT youngish, cosmetically altered, didn’t see her up close, when i did-uh no, not youngish, but does her hair and wardrobe like she is. republican strategist, they call her an ‘expert’ on women’s and latino issues, cuz she’s a woman and latino yah knooow.

By: LuuMarr

LuuMarr — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:45:48 +0000

I agree that the Biden selection sucks in a lot of ways, although I lack the wisdom to know who would be better, under the circumstances. Thanks to the voting record of “Corporate Al” Wynn, he is no longer my Congressman, having been replaced by the very promising Donna Edwards. Unfortunately, Delaware ain’t the Fourth Congressional District of MD.

As a long time lurker over at Atrios’ place, and admirer of your intelligence and good works, I know enough of your personal experience (10th Circuit decisions and all that) to know why you might be particularly appalled and offended by the treatment meted out to Anita Hill - and, for that matter, the sexist and misogynistic manner in which Sen. Clinton* was treated by so many in the Commentariat, professionals and amateurs alike. [*And I say that as someone who would have supported her in the general election, but never did in the primary.]

If you ever feel up to reliving the pain and loss of your awful experience (court victories notwithstanding), it would be educational for those with willing minds and hearts to hear your story. Who knows whether the gains to be realized from such an endeavor would make up for whatever sacrifice this would entail for you personally, but I hope you will at least consider it, assuming the terms of your settlement would permit you to offer sufficient detail. Through no proactive avoidance of our own, those of us who have never been through what you endured often can’t even see the enormity of problems if we haven’t faced them personally - in nature if perhaps not in intensity, maybe it’s like lifetime civilians trying to relate to the experiences of combat veterans. This is a struggle that will go on for generations, unfortunately, but I have to hope and believe that we can change things, even if it is at an unsatisfying, glacial pace.

Keep taking care of yourself; you’re one of the good ones.

By: DrZen

DrZen — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:13:21 +0000

wat

In primary, Obamaniacs tell us that Obama is different, will bring real change, is something special.

In general, Obama picks corporate hack for VP and now Obamaniacs say we’re just jettisoning the “change meme”, Obama is just more of the same, it was all a con.

Yeah, we knew that.

“Whether Obama wins or not is a matter of political vicissitudes”

Obama is running against the continuation of a desperately unpopular presidency, embodied in a cranky fogey who can’t wait to get you embroiled in more wars, when he has a moment spare from enriching the already rich. Not winning the presidency by a distance would not be a “matter of political vicissitudes”. It would be a major league fuckup.

By: DennisSGMM

DennisSGMM — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:54:40 +0000

No one in the Obama campaign has so far mentioned anything about party unity. For people like you, party unity means Obama turning over his delegates to Clinton and apologizing to her for impeding her coronation.
My only hope is that Obama has, as has been predicted, been made the fool of in this selection and that no more harm comes from it than already has.
Concern troll message noted. That poor fool Obama only beat the candidate with initially more money and more name recognition. More harm? Biden kicked McCain’s ass in his first speech. If I recall correctly, Clinton praised McCain during the campaign. Whether Obama wins or not is a matter of political vicissitudes but, if Clinton and her supporters are perceived to have played a part in his failure to get elected then Clinton’s political career is over.

By: GWPDA

GWPDA — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:32:16 +0000

Biden is just about as corporatist as it comes. It doesn’t really matter if he’s ‘on the take’ from MBNA – his collaboration in the Bankruptcy Act is enough to demonstrate his loyalties. They are not to the Democratic Party or to the citizens of Delaware – indeed, probably not any more than McCain’s are to the Republican Party or the citizens of Arizona. That we’re going to all be instructed to ‘get behind’ Joe Biden reminds me so much of that happy time when Lloyd Bentsen was going to create party unity – or John Edwards, or Joe Lieberman…. My only hope is that Obama has, as has been predicted, been made the fool of in this selection and that no more harm comes from it than already has. And, hey! What about that slut Anita Hill?

By: DennisSGMM

DennisSGMM — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:04:39 +0000

Was the choice of Biden a slap in the face to ya’, kid? His standing of 99th in net worth in the Senate proves that he’s on the take from MBNA – right? Take a look at what MBNA incorporation business does for Delaware then tell me how Biden’s votes are different from any other Senator’s on his or her home state’s money maker. I’m with Lori: some Dems need to grow the fuck up.

By: makeitstop

makeitstop — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:53:25 +0000

I figured it would be Biden if only for the fact that he knows how to bite extemporaniously, which at this point in ‘Murikan politics is something we need. Unfortunately. Clutching our collective pearls and exclaiming that we can’t get into the gutter like they have while the rethugs have slandered, lied, and ratfucked their way into office for the last 8 years has gotten us no where. They’ve managed to shift the political center so far right that an old-style centrist is now a fringe lefty. Who here thinks someone ID’d as a lefty has a chance in hell of winning anything in the current environment; hands please?

I’m a hard lefty, but even I can see that our target now is to get into office and shift that damned Overton Window (or whatever you call it); then we have a chance of electing a true progressive without the AP, Murdock, and every CEO in the country cutting them off at the knees right out of the gate. And for every progressive who is now saying they think Obama is rethug-lite and Biden is apostasy, all I have to say is Supreme Court and who gets to replace the current geriatrics determines everything about the next 25 years in this country. If you can’t see that, then I have to wonder what the hell those two shining orbs are on the front of your head.

By: wasabi

wasabi — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:23:45 +0000

I don’t disagree with terribly with anything that Fournier wrote. Biden shores up his weakness in the area of experience and national security. And I think that is just what the Republicans are afraid of. They were dying to make this an election based on experience. Biden has removed that option now. Tough shit for the GOP.
The whole idea that the electorate is consumed by the lack of bipartisanship is pure right wing hooey. That’s for the David Broder’s of this world. The people want a new direction in the country and that means that you have to elect a Democrat this time. They just need someone who can guide them on making that cerebral leap. Sure as shit, Obama can’t do that. He spent too much time making the Dems equivalent to the Reps.
Biden will work just fine for an attack dog. Pass the popcorn. Should be entertaining.