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		<title>By: treadlightly</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18521</link>
		<dc:creator>treadlightly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing is obvious: McCain did not survive his years as a POW intact. The guy is definitely damaged goods. Fortunately, if he becomes president he will have 6-1/2 billion people to take it out on, so that reduces the odds that he’ll get me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not so sure Palin is going to survive this campaign intact. By that I mean she may be doing serious damage to that wonderful future she is supposed to have leading the GOP. First, there may not be much left of the GOP after Crazy J and Daisy Mae get finished with it. Palin’s going to be primarily known as the Daughter of Joe McCarthy and leader of the fringe of the fringe. Admittedly, incompetents have a way of triumphing in American politics, but I remain unconvinced that the net result of her candidacy (for her) will be much more than her being discredited as a nasty buffoon. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Palin makes the Know Nothings seem like the party of multiple Nobel Prize laureates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we’ll all be happier if Sarah is retired to giving guest speeches at gatherings of the Red Mist Club in Wyoming (Club? Society? Gang? Whatever the hell those cretins call themselves.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is obvious: McCain did not survive his years as a POW intact. The guy is definitely damaged goods. Fortunately, if he becomes president he will have 6-1/2 billion people to take it out on, so that reduces the odds that he’ll get me.</p>
<p>I’m not so sure Palin is going to survive this campaign intact. By that I mean she may be doing serious damage to that wonderful future she is supposed to have leading the GOP. First, there may not be much left of the GOP after Crazy J and Daisy Mae get finished with it. Palin’s going to be primarily known as the Daughter of Joe McCarthy and leader of the fringe of the fringe. Admittedly, incompetents have a way of triumphing in American politics, but I remain unconvinced that the net result of her candidacy (for her) will be much more than her being discredited as a nasty buffoon. </p>
<p>Palin makes the Know Nothings seem like the party of multiple Nobel Prize laureates.</p>
<p>I think we’ll all be happier if Sarah is retired to giving guest speeches at gatherings of the Red Mist Club in Wyoming (Club? Society? Gang? Whatever the hell those cretins call themselves.)</p>
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		<title>By: xpurg8d</title>
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		<dc:creator>xpurg8d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The most disturbing sight to me was McCain continuing not to just step forward and directly address a person asking a question — he kept walking in between the stadium-style seats so he could get &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; close to somebody in that area and lean into them and pound on the railing.  Everyone in the group had to turn sideways to watch him and looked like they weren’t sure if they were going to be slapped or just yelled at.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It also looked to me like the McCain’s escaped post-haste while the Obamas stayed and shook hands and signed autographs and posed for pictures with anyone who wanted to engage them — and there were a lot of those.  My favorite - a paunchy old guy in a veteran’s cap who wanted to put his arm around Obama for a photo.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most disturbing sight to me was McCain continuing not to just step forward and directly address a person asking a question — he kept walking in between the stadium-style seats so he could get <em>this</em> close to somebody in that area and lean into them and pound on the railing.  Everyone in the group had to turn sideways to watch him and looked like they weren’t sure if they were going to be slapped or just yelled at.</p>
<p>It also looked to me like the McCain’s escaped post-haste while the Obamas stayed and shook hands and signed autographs and posed for pictures with anyone who wanted to engage them — and there were a lot of those.  My favorite &#8211; a paunchy old guy in a veteran’s cap who wanted to put his arm around Obama for a photo.</p>
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		<title>By: aldole</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18506</link>
		<dc:creator>aldole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bonus word (for the hard stuff) - “waziristan”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonus word (for the hard stuff) &#8211; “waziristan”</p>
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		<title>By: anwaya</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18504</link>
		<dc:creator>anwaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My debate drinking word was “my friends”, because I wanted to get drunk.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My debate drinking word was “my friends”, because I wanted to get drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: ItchyBrother</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18503</link>
		<dc:creator>ItchyBrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, lonewolf was disqualified as it was found to provoke an armed reaction by VP trophy candidate Palin.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, lonewolf was disqualified as it was found to provoke an armed reaction by VP trophy candidate Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18502</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;“He is the most pissed off asshole I’ve ever seen in politics.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Asshole” being the operative word here.  If that likeability factor comes into play in this election, McPalin are dead in the water.  Both are obvious assholes.  I don’t think anyone “likes” McCain, including his base.  Palin is beloved by those 27% Bushie deadenders.  27% is not going to put the ticket over the top.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“He is the most pissed off asshole I’ve ever seen in politics.”</i></p>
<p>“Asshole” being the operative word here.  If that likeability factor comes into play in this election, McPalin are dead in the water.  Both are obvious assholes.  I don’t think anyone “likes” McCain, including his base.  Palin is beloved by those 27% Bushie deadenders.  27% is not going to put the ticket over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: moondancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>moondancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PTSD.  I think McCain felt the evening slip away.  His task to turn Obama into a blob of jello and nail him to the wall was a tall task..for a short insane codger. He is the most pissed off asshole I’ve ever seen in politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTSD.  I think McCain felt the evening slip away.  His task to turn Obama into a blob of jello and nail him to the wall was a tall task..for a short insane codger. He is the most pissed off asshole I’ve ever seen in politics.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18499</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought two semi-bizarre moments were when Rickles told Brokaw he wouldn’t pick him for his Sec Treasury and McCain pointed to Obama and called him “that one.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought two semi-bizarre moments were when Rickles told Brokaw he wouldn’t pick him for his Sec Treasury and McCain pointed to Obama and called him “that one.”</p>
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		<title>By: PereUbu</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18498</link>
		<dc:creator>PereUbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;if former prisoner of war John McCain cracks under the pressure, pulls a gun, and starts blasting away at the assembled media.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, but he did do a masterful job of kicking his heels and whining “ME TOO! ME TOO! I GETTA RESPOND TOO” when Obama wanted to respond to McCain’s “mah opponent wants to tell Pakistan he’ll invade!” bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We also got a repeat performance of “freeze the entire Federal budget except for the War Department”. Uh, yeah, John. Keep going to the well on that one. I dare you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>if former prisoner of war John McCain cracks under the pressure, pulls a gun, and starts blasting away at the assembled media.</em></p>
<p>No, but he did do a masterful job of kicking his heels and whining “ME TOO! ME TOO! I GETTA RESPOND TOO” when Obama wanted to respond to McCain’s “mah opponent wants to tell Pakistan he’ll invade!” bullshit.</p>
<p>We also got a repeat performance of “freeze the entire Federal budget except for the War Department”. Uh, yeah, John. Keep going to the well on that one. I dare you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff105</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/10/07/debatable/comment-page-1/#comment-18497</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;Brokaw planted his face in the pavement at the end.  He decided to end the debate with two mind-numbing “questions” — “All this requires is a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ –Is Russia still the Evil Empire?” was Brokaw’s contribution to the foolhardy simplicity of American political discourse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama ignored the either/or frame, and McCain tried to game the frame by answering “Maybe.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“What don’t you know and how will you learn it?” — was a question from the internet, proving the “new media” has parity with the “old media” for idiocy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp;Brokaw planted his face in the pavement at the end.  He decided to end the debate with two mind-numbing “questions” — “All this requires is a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ –Is Russia still the Evil Empire?” was Brokaw’s contribution to the foolhardy simplicity of American political discourse.</p>
<p>Obama ignored the either/or frame, and McCain tried to game the frame by answering “Maybe.” </p>
<p>“What don’t you know and how will you learn it?” — was a question from the internet, proving the “new media” has parity with the “old media” for idiocy.</p>
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