Marc Ambinder thinks that Sarah Palin is running for 2012 even though the body of John McCain’s campaign (and John for that matter) isn’t even cold yet:
There’s a suspicion in some McCain loyalist precincts that Gov. Sarah Palin is beginning to play the Republican base against John McCain — McCain won’t let her campaign in Michigan…McCain won’t let her bring up Jeremiah Wright… McCain doesn’t like her terrorist pal talks….
Think ahead to 2010…2011…2012.
Palin is ambitious. Very ambitious.
And if she wants the job, she’s easily the frontrunner to become THE voice of the angry Right in the Wilderness. She is a favorite of talk radio and Fox News conservatives, and speaks their language as only a true member of the club can. (Her recent Limbaugh interview was full of dog whistles that any Dittohead would recognize. Including her actual use of the word ditto.)
There are an awful lot of assumptions at play here. First off, whether she can hang onto her job or get reelected in Alaska. Forget for a moment whether all of her known and yet to be discovered legal/ethical issues go away; Alaskans will either support her because they think she was treated poorly by the lower 48 and the evil elitist media or they are currently looking on aghast because the rest of the country discovered that their hot new girlfriend is an idiot.
Secondly, between now and 2012 that same evil elitist media (not to mention a vengeful Mitt Romney) are going to have four leisurely years to pick through the detritus of her college years, career, personal life, and those $15 million emails. Think of it as Alaskan Gold Rush v.2.
Thirdly, how does one become not a national joke? Sarah Palin is more Dan Quayle than she is Richard Nixon even if she shares and possibly rivals Nixon’s vindictive streak. It’s entirely possible that two years from now, when people think of Sarah Palin, the little projector in their heads will run Tina Fey videos.
Ambinder believes that she will have become more fluent on national issues, but she has shown very little ability to demonstrate or articulate a deep understanding on any topic possibly because she is enamored with her own cuteness and still believes that she can soundbite her way through policy discussions. She may be able to charm her way through a debate in Alaska but she never had to face a Romney, that creepy Bobby Jindal, or even Rick Santorum if Jeebus tells him his time is now. Additionally, being Governor of Alaska isn’t exactly a high profile job. It’s going to be hard for her to run in the lower 48 wihout spending a lot of time outside of her state which may not play well at home in Nome.
I could be wrong. Maybe four years will wash away the stain of the past ten weeks and Sarah Palin will attain elder statesman status. Anything is possible.
As Noah Cross once said:
‘Course I’m respectable. I’m old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.
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Which party do you think she will run for? Got to wonder when a $150,000 allowance buys you this….
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs…..shion.aspx
She’s Kristol’s project…assuming the neoconloons still have a stranglehold on the Republic party, of course she’s gonna run in 2012.
Thus ensuring Obama’s second term.
OMG, just clap louder, faster!
Come Nov. 5 so very many people will just yearn to take a quick shower and leave by the back door, never to call her again. Or something.
Palin/Bachmann 2012!
Because we’ll want to be entertained by twice the crazy Republicans we’re getting this cycle.
You’re right about why she’ll fail, but that doesn’t mean they won’t try. She’s ONE OF THEM and the idiots with her face plastered on their t-shirts will try to run her up the flag pole until she fails to kick enough ass that they’ll be forced to recognize that she was really a liberal all along but, by gum, that Levi is the real deal. Did you see his MySpace page?! Awesome!
What a conundrum: her base doesn’t want her any smarter — her stupidity is part of her appeal with the bubba crowd. But for the GOP to even consider running with her again (and they’ve already shown that they find some merit in hiring an Alaskan call girl for important occasions) they’ll want her to at least get basics like the constitution and the shape of the world down.
Will such an intellectual leap make her undesirable for Joe Sixpack? Will he then find someone more stupid to support in the ‘12 GOP primaries (I hear Michelle Bachman may be looking for a job soon)? But that challenge may easily prove to great — full sentences, logic, all that elitist arugula think-y stuff — and she’ll simply live off Todd’s snowmobile winnings, the sale of her old email, and whatever a used fuck-me leather jacket from Sacks Fifth can fetch on eBay these days…
Dear Editers Atzlantix,
Can I haz job as riter?
I mean really. The insight here is that Palin is ambitious? No shit? Next: Ambinder patiently exposes the watery properties of the ocean.
This hick has been EXPOSED as a fraud. She’s a bigger drag on the McCain ticket than the fact that he’s a Republican who has the support of Typhoid George. She’s glib, dumb and wildly mocked. So yeah, she’s a perfect Republican candidate for 2012, a national joke guaranteed to ensure an Obama landslide.
Of course, looking at the GOP’s whisper-thin bench: Newt, Mitt, Huckleberry and the actually-tough-because he’s-not-insane, gay governor of Florida (oops), Palin might be viable for the nomination.
Shit, the GOP is toast. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bag of dicks.
Two words and a date: Ronnie Reagan, 1976.
I guess the emmessemmorons can be forgiven for forgetting how short an attention span they have.
My money sez Palin’s gonna be in a box labeled “Goodwill” with all their other discarded action figure toys by Thanksgiving.
Well…it worked for Reagan.
Dammit, InnocentBystander, ya beat me to it…
My co-workers here in MN were speculating on this very ticket just yesterday.
BTW – Is there some kind of craziness quota in the House of Reps? I mean, the same year that Katherine Harris gets the boot, Bachmann gets in? That way the batshittery continues uninterrupted, or something?
Ahhh, captphealy beat me to it
Palin is the darling of the nuts, hated or dismissed as “Dan Quayle Lite” by everyone else.
She doesn’t have the tools to get better.
With luck, she can solidify the creationist faction of the national GOP into making the Republicans a permanent ideologically driven irrelevancy, the way the GOP has become in California.
Ooh, does she still think the world is flat?
The GOP might not want Palin to change her views on that. Flat-earthiness is a view that appeals to the right, to pre-Galileo forgiving Catholics, and to Tom Friedman’s regular readers. That’s the kind of coalition the GOP is likely to think adds up to a 50% + .01 majority.
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I was just thinking about Romney and Palin, but in a different way. Imagine a world where the 2008 Republican candidate WAS Romney, and he’d picked Palin as his running mate. Eh, go with me. Palin definitely shores up Mittens’ main base problem, and Mittens doesn’t have the specter of a death rictus lurching across his face. Mittens probably could have controlled Milady quite well. The worst case scenario, Palin would have been the sideshow she always deserved to be, and Mittens would have sent a strong message that the age of a strong vice-presidency is OVAH.
Romney/Palin 2008. That would have been an interesting ticket.
JayBrida:
I confess, I really don’t get the general Ambinder blog love. Yeah, he has decent enough sources to get the occasionally interesting scoop, but other than that he’s about the most conventional villager analyst in the blogosphere. Boring as hell, and usually wrong, with a distinct preference for GOP/Right-Wing narrative frames.
I don’t get it.
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I predict an all out war between the economic (moderate) conservatives, and the social (fundie) conservatives for control of the party. If the bat-shit crazy fundies lose, they’ll have to start their own party, and that’s where Caribou Barbie will appear again. Hard to say who will win, but who gives a shit? Just as long as it’s bloody and extremely ugly, and weakens the rethug party even more, I’ll be happy.
Most likely it will be quite a show, so keep that cupboard stocked with popcorn.
In fairness to Ambinder, I don’t know that he was saying she would win–just that she has enough of a constituency among the know-nothings to put her in the running for the nomination. I think this part of his piece is exactly right:
I still think the fundie-nuts have better poster clowns than Tundratrash. Sheeeit, if McSellout had picked Huckabee instead of her, he might even not be circling the drain right now. Huckabee at least SOUNDS like he has a fucking clue what he’s talking about.
Hee!!! With Nancy What the Pfuck as their campaign manager! Then all THREE of them won’t be able to talk to the press and will claim any questions are sexist or twisted their words.
science? no way.
i can’t believe people are talking about 2012.
think back 18 months. everybody was predicting that Rudy and Hillary were gonna walk away with the nominations.
You heard it here first:
Palin/Ryan 2012!!
Paul Ryan from Wisconsin. Young, rising star in Congress, who also hits all of the (far) right notes in Wingnuttia. Palin may flame out in the next four years, but mark my words, Ryan will be there. If so, God help us all!
“Most likely it will be quite a show, so keep that cupboard stocked with popcorn.”
Popcorn, my ass. Can you spell “I-r-a-n-i-a-n c-a-v-i-a-r”?
–Michelle Obama
Something to consider: Years often don’t wear as well on women as they do on men. It doesn’t hurt so much for intelligent and competent women to age, but it does when all you’ve got is a wink and a wiggle to sell.
She has no chance to reappear in 2012 as a more mature, wiser woman because she’s too stupid to learn anything between now and then.
Since the only folks who are enamored with Palin at this point are adolescent males and their fathers who fantasize that Sarah would so go for them if she just met them, another four years of wrinkles and sags could be a real campaign killer for her.
Palin is a hit-and-run con artist who (so far) has played the voters in Wasilla for chumps, moved on to play the voters in Alaska for chumps, has played Kristol and the McCain campaign for chumps, and who FINALLY racked up a massive, epic FAIL trying to play the U.S. electorate as a whole for chumps.
She and the Toddster are all about the money; where to find it and how to extract it from the marks.
I realize her wingnut base thrives on being conned, but I have a hard time believing she can keep conning them for four more years while having her life dismantled and inspected.
Yeah, I can see it, that she’s already looking ahead to her Next Big Chance. But she’s in a bubble, and all she knows is that she is adored wherever she goes, never has to talk to anyone who will ask her hard questions and she got a kick-ass new wardrobe. No wonder she thinks life is one big parade of ponies. However, it is obvious the goombas that populate her rallies are not the majority in either her party or the country. Remember, she was appointed to this ticket, not nominated by the people.
Very good point, although Botox and a little surgery can work wonders. But I tend to think that her considerable, not yet revealed personal baggage (along with the known stuff) will result in her deciding to spend more time with the (every expanding) family.
Oh and TBogg, love that last quote. Roman Polanski may be a sick fuck, but he made a great movie.
Yes, Palin is ambitious. Very ambitious. She’s also stupid. Very stupid. And the American public has been innoculated against SPD (stupid president disease) for at least a generation. (Or so I am willing to bet…)
Years often don’t wear as well on women as they do on men
I was going to say. Those guys in the front row of her rallies with their tongues hanging out? They won’t be so hot for her when the G in GILF stands for Grandma.
1) Bloody Bill takes the fall for the Palin pick but I seriously doubt he had anything to do with it.
Looks like Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis pushed the pick.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlan…..e-hir.html
2) I doubt that Pailin was ever nationally ambitious. Her 1996 Wasilla mayoral campaign manager told her at the time that she could be governor in ten years and, according to the New York Times, Palin replied: “I don’t want to be governor — I want to be president!”
She wasn’t talking about the United States.
She wants to be president of the independent nation of Alaska.
She’s getting a cheap ride from the MSM on her Alaskan Independence Party ties in ‘08, and the Obama campaign won’t touch it.
But in ‘12 her gooper rivals won’t be so shy about slamming the extensive anti-American dalliances of Ms. Alaska First.
She’ll never make it out of Iowa.
3) Whattabout old, ugly, political whores? Forget it, Krusty, this ain’t Chinatown.
If she got breast implants, she could hold Joe Sixpack’s attention–even if she somehow attained Mensa status–and could save a bundle on clothes by appearing in cheesy halter dresses made from old scarves.
Interesting take on that – makes sense to me.
She’ll be out of politics right after the elections and have her own show on Fox by January 2009. She’s too bat-shit crazy to get elected, but she’ll be the darling of the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/SavageWeiner set.
Here’s what I think Bible Spice will do after they lose:
-She and McCain will have a nasty public “divorce,” and we will finally find out how they really feel about each other.
-She will run for the U.S. Senate (esp. since Ted Stevens is circling the drain) representing Alaska.
-If she gets the Senate seat, everything she does and says will be a set-up for:
-Her Presidential run in 2012.
I suspect the best example of her fate will be Liddy Dole. After she came out and gave her “Oprah-style” speech at the Repub Convention in 96, all these chattering idiots started talking about how she should run for President. Come 2000, she actually bought into that shit and started her run. Went absolutely nowhere.
Of course, Quayle tried his own run, I seem to recall, and it went just as far, so a similar dynamic in play, but Liddy never had even a fraction of the support Quayle drew, so I’ll stick with my prediction.
That’s if she doesn’t get shit-canned in Alaska.
So, a failed run in 2012, or a couple decades on the old public speaking tour delivering speeches on behalf of Right to Life and shit like that.
Oh, thank you for this bit of sanity, TBogg (!).
I have to remind myself that I’m not watching a Coen Brothers movie every time I see the vapid twit. Her obliviousness, her ego, and her sense of entitlement will surely continue in play; so will the memories of the people she screwed over, p*ssed off, and ignored. I place my trust in them to ensure she never sees a national stage again.