Police sources tell KDKA that a campaign worker has now confessed to making up a story that a mugger attacked her and cut the letter "B" in her face after seeing her McCain bumper sticker.
Ashley Todd, 20, of Texas, initially told police that she was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield and that the suspect became enraged and started beating her after seeing her GOP sticker on her car.
Police investigating the alleged attack, however, began to notice some inconsistencies in her story and administered a polygraph test.
Authorities, however, declined to release the results of that test.
Investigators did say that they received photos from the ATM machine and "the photographs were verified as not being the victim making the transaction."
This afternoon, a Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Todd confessed to making up the story.
The commander added that Todd will face charges; but police have not commented on what those charges will be.
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Because when I take time out from my busy day to conduct politically motivated facial carvings I ALWAYS carve my letters backward.
That way only the victim can see my intent and the broad political message meant for the Ashley Todd-viewing general public is lost.
They can’t even beat themselves up properly.
And thus, this final chapter in Colossal Wingtard Fuckuppery closes the book on the idea that any RepubliKKKlan can do anything effectively besides shit their pants.
They can’t even beat themselves up properly.
That’s gonna leave me chuckling all damn day. What a maroon!
What is it with white people?
Oh, sad little Ashley. You picked up on the frothing bloggage on how wingnuts were The Real Victims, and thought that, you know, there should be an actual victim somewhere in the mix, or a reasonable facsimile thereof. I’d suggest a name change and relocation ASAYGOOJ (as soon as you get out of jail).
“Forty-two percent of those surveyed in a recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll said they were not confident that their votes could be “accurately cast and counted.”
K.. between Ms. Todd and that CNN poll, I think its safe to say we no longer have a functioning democracy.
Prepare now for the double-reverse backlash: wingnuts making hay over excessive liberal glee at the news. Coming soon, trust me.
Thanks TBogg. The thugs try to riff off of Tawana Brawley.
What a sad young lady.
I hope McCain and Palin offer to get her some real treatment.
-G
digg
Will she get to keep her job with the College Republicans?
She should have gone with carving an O. At least if she carved it backwards, you would not be able to tell.
I called this yesterday when all of the Wingnuts were gleefully pushing this story on Drudge.
Pathetic little wingnuts.
The B on her face is backwards because that looked right when she was looking in the mirror while cutting it.
She should have gone for the full Tawana Brawley treatment and smeared feces all over her face. This is just like the Robert Downey incident too. IMO she needs to do spend some time in a locked Psych unit and then do community service working with poor black people.
It’s like a bad Encylopedia Brown story!
wow.. banner headline up on foxnews’ website saying she made it up.
I hope McCain and Palin offer to get her some real treatment.
Oh fuck that. She doesn’t have a mental disease, she was a cynical idiot who didn’t have the tools to ratfuck properly. She’s a small, corrupt, pityparty who was trying to be a ‘hero’ for her Party. It’s that simple.
Every time I think this campaign just can’t get any weirder, it somehow manages to do so. I don’t even know what to say.
Stupid douche.
Barry Kabila Hussein Amin Khomeini Ahmedinejad Hitler Nat X is going to be the first US president of African descent. We all know that.
One thing that’s been lost in this whole rigamarole, however, is that John Sidney McCain III will be the first white guy to lose the US presidency to a man of African descent.
JS McCain III, a man descended from slaveholders and with a whole slave family on the side to ignore (just like TJ!).
A man who fought tooth-and-claw against the MLK holiday.
A man who has consistently voted against the interests of all minorities.
You think that thought doesn’t keep him awake nights?
“HEY MCCAIN!!! YOU LOST TO A N****R!!1!!!eleventy!!”
The entire pasty white collection of McCain ancestors is collectively spinning at 28,800 RPM.
Way to go, Johnny Boy!
This young lady is evidently ‘troubled’ to have not only have made up that story but also cutting herself.
All the way around, this is just sad
A citizen’s arrest of Matt Drudge and Hugh Hewitt is LONG overdue!
I can’t tell if the backward B is a scratch or a cut. If it’s deep enough she has branded herself for life. She’s a little nuts either way.
LMAO.
There’s nothing sad about it. She’s a typical Republican. What do you expect? Rationality?
Jay, I am not sure what is wrong with white people and you would think that since I am one that I would know. NOT
I stopped associating with the ‘white’ race 35 yrs ago, I am of the human race and the color of one’s skin does not come into play in my world.
Nothing says FAIL like couldn’t even fool Malkin.
Normally I’m a very compassionate-ish person.
Forgive me if I don’t feel sorry for this bitch.
My guess is that she’ll be charged with making a false report to law enforcement. $2,500 fine and a year in the slammer.
She’s only 20.
I had no problem with Greg B.’s statement.
“I hope McCain and Palin offer to get her some real treatment.
I imagine that the only “treatment” McCain is currently interested in dealing out to this empty-headed little bitch would be to pound the living shit out of her himself. Her feeble attempts to “help” him ended up leaving major egg on his campaign’s face, and Senator Blast-Furnace-For-A-Temper isn’t likely to forgive that.
I doubt that Palin is feeling any more kindly towards her, either.
I want pie.
After all those others being thrown under the bus, do you really think McCrazy and Sarah the Whore are gonna give a goddamn about this chick?
You win – that was perfect.
She reminds me of Susan Smith who killed her kids 10+ years ago in SC and tried to tell police that a Black man took them while carjacking her. She even looks a bit like that woman.
The fact that she did it and to blame it on a fictional boogeyman (black man–thereby stoking racial fears) is sad
John Moody, executive vice president at Fox News (from HuffPo)
A Republic knows things are bad for the campaign when Fox News says stuff like that.
So that’s what McCain has left now? “Dyslexic emo posers for more wars and fewer negroes?” What a proud crowd.
Srsly, what are we going to get next? People setting themselves on fire to protest that awful black man and his oh, so radical policies… driven largely by a crowd of old Clinton advisers and beltway insiders (good detailed analysis here)?
Took a second over lunch to pay a visit to the inmates over at noquarter (no link for you, Larry Johnson), and it’s simply amazing to see how desperate they are to make Mr. Mainstream Obama out to be some fringe lunatic Black Panther/Shining Path freak. He’s off to visit his ailing grandmother, for Xssake, not to eat Joe Sixpack’s unborn child. Get a grip, or lose the election. Oh, wait…
understood. I’m not saying I feel sorry for her, just that the whole situation is sad
so young so stoooopit,and prolly uneducable
ZOMG! I am an idiot [hits self on forhead like a V-8 juice commercial]
The reason the ”B” is backwards was that she was looking in the mirror when she carved it herself! And she’s too witless to realize that what you see in the mirror is not reality, hence the term ”mirror image”. the twit didn’t know that it would be backwards on her face.
Hey, who am I calling a twit, I spent a day not realizing why the backwards ”B” seemed odd to me?
Someone posted over at Pat Lang’s blog, in regard to Larry Johnson:
His methods are not sound.
The horror.
-G
Kewl. I wanted to type the moniker ‘Sarah the Whore’. I feel better now. I’ve know several whores in my day and every last one of them would sell their souls for some nice threads. Jus’ sayin’
There goes her scholarship to Regent University oh wait.
No no no! It wasn’t a backwards “B” — it was the Euro symbol!
kdh22: I’d feel a lot more sorry for her if the local head of the College Republicans hadn’t been pimping her bogus story to the press.
While it is unlikely that any of McCain’s strategists instructed her to do this, since disseminating misinformation has been the campaign’s primary tactic it is fair to say she was simply following their example.
It’s not a backwards B, it’s the Euro symbol!
She reminds me of many of the troubled college students I used to deal with years ago. Her behavior is a sign of a seriously troubled person.
She’s not some high paid Rovian ratfucker, she’s a sad young person acting out in appalling ways for attention.
My statement stands.
-G
LOL re: the Euro symbol. That’s funny!
WRT her pimp…yeah, pathetic.
There might be more ‘patriots’ coming around in the next 11 days. Brace yourselves.
stoking racial fears and hatred…sigh…I wonder how much damage she has done 9besides to herself)
…financed by the Obama tax cut Joe the Plumber wasn’t expecting to receive.
It looks like the kind of scratch you would get if you used the end of a straightened out paper clip.
Type what you would like. we are all entitled to our opinions and such but that doesn’t mean that all will like it or agree with what you say.
Police are on the lookout for a big, black, dyslexic figment of the racist imagination.
I got nuthin’, I just had to highlight your point.
There is going to be a news conference on this coming up soon (CNN)
Understood. Appreciate the latitude, wobbly.
Kids that are into “cutting” themselves often scratch symbols or words int their skin.
I think a shrink should be checking the rest of her body for more signs of self injury.
Her age doesn’t make it a mental disease in need of treatment and pity. There are way, way too many people who are in need of genuine help and can’t cover the costs of the drugs needed to treat them (to say nothing of those in dire need of therapy or more).
But this didn’t come out of illness, she wasn’t helpless to stop it. It was a fucking stunt. And, worse, it was a disgusting, vile, racist, stunt designed specifically to discredit the race of the Democratic candidate for president.
Fuck her. It can’t be said enough times.
And when I was 20, I was setting up adult literacy programs in Texas, so give me a break.
That’s not a ‘B’. It’s an underlined M on it’s side.
LOL … rational thought seems quite rare for the wingnuts …
lol i’m hardly the conscious of the site rather a good reminder to myself that ALL opinions are welcomed.
The “B” on her face looks a lot like Karl Rove’s handwritting.
I agree. There is something going on with this girl that she would self inflict this on herself.
It’s clear Ashley Todd has some serious issues and might even be mentally ill. I hope she gets help.
you guys are not gonna believe this but michelle malkin actually got this one right…long before the police report too
I don’t want her to track back here but google her blog and you can see she calls this girl a liar right up front as soon as the story went public
I was amazed
“It looks like the kind of scratch you would get if you used the end of a straightened out paper clip.”
It certainly wasn’t done with any implement with any sort of edge. Even a table knife would cut deeper and cleaner than what she’s done to herself.
At the very minimum I would guess that she will not scar significantly and may actually be able to put this behind her and live a normal life.
Then again, she’s a Wingtard willing to cut her face and lie to the police, so…
I guess this loyalist to the Republicon’s underscores the point that right wingers have a form of mental illness.
exactly what i think. What she did was heinous, stupid, dangerous, dumb, etc. but she needs some help
I saw that. Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds an acorn.
Wobbly, you are always so compassionate and I think that’s wonderful. But this young woman could have done mountains of harm. I remember that Emmett Till was killed because he “supposedly” whistled at a white woman. I doubt seriously that he did but the very idea cost him his life. I have no feeling for this woman – the police could have behaved like those at the Repub convention and given AA men a lot of grief.
It’s all good except for the facts surrounding race-baiting, lying, conniving bitch who would rather belittle herself than to learn anything new and commit to something constructive.
She was a volunteer who went up from Texas to Pennsylvania to canvass for McCain.
And I don’t know where this fits in with the mental disease angle, but maybe it’s here. From Salon:
Salon was able to find some of Todd’s personal Web pages, which we’re not linking to in order to protect her privacy. What appears to be her MySpace page, which gives her age as 23 rather than 20, is private. But the quote at the top of it is visible — it reads, “Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths [sic] off, but its [sic] better if you do.”
I say she’s a semi-literate idiot from Texas who knew exactly what she was trying to do, but was too stupid to know how. And I know it’s funny to say that being conservative these days is nothing BUT a mental illness, I think the insanity defense lets them off the hook.
I would think the first clue to this being a fake story was that the B was backwards. If a person was going to write the letter, it would face the direction that the writer would write it. I can’t believe even the stupids at fox weren’t suspect right away. Hannity was crowing away about this yesterday. What morons.
Random observation: She was born the year of the Willie Horton ad.
the second clue was the refusal of medical treatment.
she could have no idea there wouldn’t be infection or worse from the tool used to cut herself
unless of course she knew where the tool came from
Rick Sanchez on CNN is beating up Fox over their reporting of the story. Gotta love it when CNN calls someone out…anyone out. They are about to have Boortz on to talk about it.
totally understood. I’m not excusing what she did, at all. I make no excuse for my compassion and i certainly don’t expect it from others or judge them based upon it. honest *g*
What a friggin idiot. My opinion now is that she is just f’n stooopid.
You can’t fix stupid.
-Ron White
Words For The Day:
laceration: a cut into the skin, usually self-inflicted and politically-motivated, that is far more meaningful when able to be properly interpreted by onlookers.
ecchymosis: the pooling of hemorrhaged blood in the loose tissues of the lower eyelids causing the “black eyes” effect. Often seen as sequella adding credibility to self-inflicted, politically-motivated lacerations.
jackassery: whatever happens any time any one of those crazy idiots get out of bed and do anything.
So what if Emmett Till did “whistle” at a white woman! Anywhere else in the U.S. it would have passed as adolescent mischief. In the South populated with ignorant redneck racists and politicians that played on the ignorance of their constituents it was just too much for the oh so delicate sensibilities of white crackers.
I have that opinion of anyone supporting mccain so nothing new there
I’m a little short on compassion here.
I ain’t got much left anyway, and I sure as hell ain’t gonna waste it on her.
I’m tired of being the damn boogie man every time some deranged racist doesn’t like the way their life/election is going.
Screw her.
As that famed black philosopher Paul Mooney said in his stand up routine “I’m gonna start a new service — 1.800 Blame-a-(n-word)”
Dugg
CNN just reported on it and said it went virile on Faux news and talk radio. And the monkey wrapped its tail around the flagpole to show its a**hole to the crowd.
Please understand – I am appalled that she would do something so dangerous to other people. I doubt she really needs help – she was being a drama queen and it backfired. I have 3 daughters and a granddaughter and they do tend to do that at her age. She will have consequences and she should.
BTW I have a page bookmarked showing the history of lynching and of course Emmett Till is a part of that sad history. Anyone who would stoke racial fear and hatred by summoning images of innocent white woman assualted by black boogeyman deserves nothing but disdain. That she would carve herself up to further this lie says something about her mental stability (or lack of)
A lot of the reason the story didn’t pass the smell test was that common sense suggests that if a mugger assaults the victim, it is one quick blow, slash, shot, whatever, and then escape. They don’t hang around carving the alphabet on the person, it would just increase the likelihood of being apprehended.
One feminist really not a fan of using “whore” to demean female politicians (or any female).
I prefer “complete dumbfuck.” Insult her because of her idiocy, not her gender.
I understand. People are angry and rightly so. I’m justpassed being angry. It goes straight to sad for me as it says that we still have a long way to go in this country
I just doubt that he whistled because I was living there at the time and I don’t think any AA would have dared do that. Nothing, IMO, would have been wrong with it – I just doubt that it happened.
I guess she never watched Mean Girls.
I understand completely, but I call a spade a spade or, in this case, a whore a whore. I know some male whores too, so my disdain for whores is not gender-specific. There’s a way to get through life without selling oneself. I’ve done it. It’s not always pleasant, but it’s honorable and that’s how I want to be remembered when I’m gone. I do realize that some people don’t care about character and honor, but I do.
What you get when trying to scratch a “B” on your own cheek in a mirror (without thinking about it hard enough) is a backwards “B”.
She could at least have had a friend scratch the “B” on her face so that it would face the right way.
Well, I’m waiting for the self-immolations to begin. And bringing popcorn.
Emmett Till was a 15 year old from Chicago. It was his first trip to Mississippi and he wasn’t familiar with the strict unspoken racists “codes” pertaining to acceptable behavior of blacks towards those delicate “flowers of Southern” gentility. The whistle was the pretext for the woman’s husband and his friend to defend the skanks honor by brutally murdering a teenager from the North.
Ah, they’re trying to claim the high road, and then bring Boorish on?!? Someone explain to me why this twit gets airtime on a “respectable” news outlet when he does this:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510240014
And Sayrah Paylin does interviews with him, so I guess that means Sayrah condones this kind of talk. CNN is a joke.
I’ll chip in for the gasoline.
Who was it who was saying about this that if it is true, then many people will “re-think their support of Obama, blah blah” but if it is false, “then it is the end for McCain”?
I wait to see if that person follows through on the talking head media and declares McCain officially overdone or if they backtrack and try to wash this off.
By the by, DKos is has a diary up about a McCain advisor jumping ship and endorsing Obama AND VOTING FOR HIM VIA ABSENTEE BALLOT because of McCain’s choice of Palin.
It was an executive at Fox News that made the comment about “rethinking Obama if true and the end for McCain if a lie.”
Part of the story was that being from Chicago, Emmett didn’t realize how dangerous the action was in 1950s Mississippi. I believe the story was supported by his relatives that were present and who warned him not to do that (too late). Anyway, whether he did or didn’t is irrelevant, no person on Earth should be subjected to the fate that he was. The fact that the perpetrators were acquitted by an all-white jury and soon after accepted payment for an interview in which they boasted of their crimes was a national disgrace. Emmett didn’t die in vain, however, his tragedy did much to raise public awareness. His mother’s decision to display his battered remains to the public was a courageous act.
or used two mirrors if she didn’t want to get anyone else involved
according to her personal page, she was probably naked at the time
That B in the mirror thing is hilarious.
Let’s face it, this girl will be Goodling material in the next gop administration. A few years in a christian university, and she has it made…
Repeat after moi, ” I don’t remember.”
Looks like Rove and Schmidt have engineered an October Demise.
-G
I don’t remember.
I don’t recall.
If I’m remembering correctly…
That doens’t sound like something I would have said/done.
Quebecois, there are just so many!
I am a 40 something white man living in Pittsburgh and unfortunately this girl found plenty of support for her racism here. Rep. Murtha is speaking truth when he says Western Pennsylvanian white people are racist. It is my opinion that a stong 1/2 of the white people I know are unappologetic racist and every white Democrat I know who says they will not vote for Obama say it is because he is black and they don’t trust blacks.
oh mah gawd!
one MUST post snippet when posting such tastey treats!
Your comment 15
didn’t attack
Tawana BrawleyTodd, you attacked Greg B. Your comments sound like you’re trying to incite a lynching. Your excessive rhetoric is exactly what the wingnuts like to do to liberals. What about saving your energy for real targets like Bush, Cheney, and the rest, not some twenty-year old girl?You wrote:
Terrific self-promotion, well done. What was the name of the program and what city was it in?
was it ever proven or substantiated by the other blacks there that he even whistled at this woman?
It’s shit like this and “Barack, The Magic Negro” from that other a-hole that doesn’t let me consider for one moment supporting Republicans.
Ever.
their loss. they are missing out on meeting some great people because they are so myopic. I take it then they don’t watch any sports except hockey?
If not mistaken some of the teenagers that were with Emmett at the time confirmed that he did whistle and they told him it would cause trouble.
To think one of the fantasies of the Bush era was how Bush was going to open the door to minority voters.
What with Condi and Powell and Abu Gonzales and all.
-G
Now anyone she meets will be able to tell that she’s a backward assed little B.
What a dumbshit. But then, who else do they have??
It’s true…Sarah the Whore has been a bigger drain on McCrazy’s campaign than his alignment with Bush. Even as they’ve trotted out this affront on Bush to try to separate from him, erroneously picking Sarah the Whore will ulitmately be McCrazy’s demise. Love it!
Murtha spoke an uncomfortable truth.
-G
There’s a saying in the Mafia that one has to “make their bones”. Spending time in jail/prison and not ratting anyone out is one way they make their bones. Republicans have the same philosophy. This rabid supporter of McCain will apparently be “making her bones” and upon release will be welcomed with open arms, unless of course she has a story to tell.
I think we’ve reached a tipping point.
Real Republicans are now saying “Enough” to the neocons, and their flim-flammery of the last eight years.
They want their party back.
Supposedly she is a Texas A&M alum. hmmmmmmmmm
Ack, I apologize for leaving the snark tag off the comment. Its a matter of CNN giving with one hand and taking away with the other. The network seems to be trying to get its act together but they refuse to get rid of the worst tools on air outside of Fox. At least Beck is on his way out.
he wouldn’t have known that such an action in the south would be ‘problematic’
i agree. and will go further… some of the comments here are totally out of line. we don’t know enough of the situation to say this wasn’t the act of someone in need of help – and there are enough clues to think that might be the case.
Exactly.
The school colors are
moronmaroon and white.I think you mean Morton Downey, Jr. Robert Downey had a whole different problem.
Google “charles stuart boston” to get an idea of the potential harm of claiming random black men attacked you. This case was huge back then.
“i agree. and will go further… some of the comments here are totally out of line. we don’t know enough of the situation to say this wasn’t the act of someone in need of help – and there are enough clues to think that might be the case.”
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with you. I often do.
You know when Rush made his unfortunate statement re: Powell’s endorsement being all about race, being black I immediately thought of Clarence Thomas.
If one could vote for SCOTUS judges, I wouldn’t have voted for him even if no one else was running.
Barack Obama happens to be the best qualified candidate left of the two available.
End of story.
“[According to police spokeswoman Diane Richard:] “She further stated that the male actor approached her from the back again and hit her in the back of her head with an object, she doesn’t know what the object was, causing her to fall to the ground where he continued to punch her and kick her and threaten to ‘teach her a lesson’ for being a McCain supporter.”
Second story down at NPR:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/newsandviews/
So…Mr. LS wants to know what “male actor” she may be referring to…
How the hell did she get the black eyes? Make-up or being pummeled by oranges in a bag??
Ever been to Pittsburgh? The People in this town feel like they own the Steelers and all who play for them. They don’t find any conflict there. I was at a Penguins game last week and regularly attend hockey games. The only black man in the stands is Steeler’s Coach Tomlin.
You should have heard the uproar around here when the Steelers hired a black coach. Dan Rooney is the owner that made it necessarry for all NFL teams to interview a minority for all head coaching vacancies (The Rooney Rule). Here in Pittsburgh, that is the only reason the Rooney’s hired Tomlin, to cover there own ass. The Steelers are 15-8 under Tomlin.
You have no idea the joy that brings me.
No idea.
Better to have him holed up with the rest of the kooks on Faux so you can skip right over the lot of them when channel surfing.
I refer you to my comment @81.
Geoge Will and the MSNBC rethug bloviator made essentially the same statement. I think there is proof positive that they are out to lunch and that was the Memphis primary.
Would be nice to get them all cornered in one spot and they could just talk to each other.
ok then.
guess i walked into the wrong room by mistake.
thought it was the progressives and not orwell’s all day two-minute hate. my bad.
Yeah, the US infotainment ‘gated neighborhoods’, slums, if you will. Just like in Iraq.
That is police speak. He was the person taking action.
Unless it was Chuck Norris offering his services.
-G
What if her story had had just enough cred to get someone arrested, tried and convicted. Still think she would deserve to be treated like a victim?
The fun continues upstairs with a new watertiger deluxe post
Wow, just WOW! You could have avoided the way you’re feeling right now if you had just read first. I thought progressives had thick skin.
That was a bad time in Boston.
-G
Reading through the comments and I don’t recognize the place. Wow. More anger and bs here than I’ve ever seen. Putting my 20 years working in mental health up front and saying this is a young woman in need of help, not derision. Even Malkin was kinder than some of the comments I’ve seen here and that’s a sad commentary.
twain @136 – i never said that she deserved to be treated like a victim.
kdh22 @138 – if i didn’t have thick skin, i would last a day here. it’s my compassion you are confusing for a thin skin.
thanks SD.
Thanks. I would add that we are still a long way from a full set of facts here, too.
On the other hand, I have no pity for those who were trying to use the situation against Obama. I hope they are even more humiliated on election day.
I’m sick and tired of people blaming black people for everything. She committed a crime. That’s not okay. This is the kind of thing that makes AAs afraid to breathe. That’s wrong.
agreed.
but that does not explain the hate directed at someone who is possibly in need of a great deal of help and compassion.
M for Moron? underlined for emphasis? Sounds about right
FWIW, Todd made false statements to the police. That’s felony weight. I hope she is prosecuted to the full extent the law allows.
Wingnuts, however, will pick certain comments off this thread to use at a later date against liberals/progressives.
It’s a sin to kill a mockingbird….
Speaking of WHORES
Norm Coleman (Clothes Whore-MN) will be debating for his senate seat tonight. CSPAN will carry the debate. Wonder what suit, purchased by his pimp, he’ll be wearing tonight?
Agreed.
Progressives don’t need thick skin, they aren’t carving backwards letters into their faces.
Progressives need thick skin less they become offended on a blog.
i’m not suggesting it’s ok. and i’m not suggesting that the police give her a pass.
i am saying that we don’t have all the facts about her and that it’s quite possible that her mental health is an issue. that does not mean we make light of her actions let alone condone them. in fact, they were criminal and dangerous and should be treated as such by the police.
but that in no way justifies what i read here.
I think we’ll find the young woman is more in need of help than prosecution. I understand the seriousness of filing a false police report but I’m hoping that common sense prevails in this case. Cutting is a symptom of deeper psychological problems. Locking her up and humiliating her only serves to make her mental state worse. I see this as more a cry for help on her part than anything else, her other coping mechanisms having failed.
I’m gonna need your help here.
I don’t know what I said at 81 that stops me from being a progressive.
And, I don’t see any ‘hate’ there, either.
I did say I don’t have any compassion for her, and I don’t.
And, given what she did, ’screw her’ could hardly be seen as hate speech.
I’ve seen this play before, and people who look like me don’t always do so well when this type of thing happens, so you’ll just have to forgive me if I focus more on self preservation vs. concern for her mental health.
Hey Ashley, does your face hurt? – cause it’s KILLING me!!!!!
It’s amazing that she didn’t wind up carving an “L” on her forehead.
I think that’s enough of that shit.
The Fox executive has presaged the future…
Fox is throwing McCain and the Republicans Under The Bus.
Fox “news” will now become sort of like a cheerleader for… The Democratic Party!
Yes, boys and girls! All those idiotic yahoos, newsbabes and newsbeefcake will now spew their highly balanced inanities in favor of Obama and the Democratic Party!
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
Fox doesn’t care about politics, it cares about profits. Republicans are toast. The king is dead, long live the king. Fox will schmooze up the Democrats trying to continue the growth of their media empire. Democrats will be a trickier lot to bamboozle to try and dismantle the FCC and keep The Fairness Doctrine out of the national conciousness. But Fox is up to it.
Fox will
soonthis weekend endorse Obama for President.You heard it here first.
Mods, where the fuck are you?
You suggested hate here. I don’t think it was hate. Outrage and frustration that this was done AGAIN. The country is too volatile right now and this sort of thing is very dangerous. I believe truly that she did this to get attention – that does not always imply a mental illness. Just selfish.
I hope you aren’t talking to me.
HEAR! HEAR!
HEAR! HEAR!
See my 154, and I know what I’m talking about.
Is your name mods?
No. I don’t want to be censored. You didn’t make your complaint clear.
I’m not interested in your wants.
I really don’t know enough about her at all but she planned this and executed it – poorly, to be sure. It’s not that I hate her – I just can’t help thinking of the damage she could have done to others.
It scares me.
Back to salt mine. There’s enough slime here to float a battleship.
i’m not sure SD, but i think that there are different commenting rule (and different mods) on each of the blogs. i don’t know what the rules are here – and for all i know the comments may have been well within what’s considered acceptable.
all i wanted to do was make it clear that this thread does not represent all progressives at fdl. the presence of comments with differing views at least does that.
Nor I in yours.
I guess I should tell my story. I was wearing my Obama cap and suddenly I was cut off by two of those old people scooters. Two men in walkers attacked me, threw me to the ground and carved me up with a McCain symbol, yep they carved an asshole in my butt. At least I think that’s new.
maybe some other time we could have this conversation? thanks.
Why are you crying out for sympathy for this woman? We’re only COMMENTING here. Get a grip. No one here wishes this woman actual harm (I would hope). As far as classifying her as a cutter – I suppose when all you have is a hammer everything appears to be a nail. She’s no friggin cutter. Enlarge your frame of reference – maybe this chick is actually a mean-spirited, bigoted, racist pig? Wow – could that be possible – or do they only live in my neighborhood?
Sure, and if/when we do, please help me to understand what you wrote @133.
wow… a flame war.
No one will notice my completely unexpected, yet highly prescient prediction.
Fox will endorse Obama.
You didn’t. ((Selise))
((SD))
I agree. Can you imagine hitting yourself hard enough to cause a shiner like that? I mean that takes real dedication.
And now for something TOTALLY OfT
;~P
Just stopped back and saw the fun and games (this is a Tbogg thread, right?), and did see your prediction. Don’t remember a network ever endorsing someone, so I can’t see that happening. Please stop by if that happens and say, “Told ya so!! Neener! Neener!”
Also, I don’t agree that some of the BigMedia is in it just for profits. Pox Newz lost something like $500 Million in the first five years. That was in 1990s dollars. I doubt if the motivation was profits that he would’ve let it lose so much money year after year. Has the Washington Times ever made a profit? A lot of the Repub magazines are that way too.
I think Ruturd Murdoch had enough profit from other businesses, and then he could “invest” in a news operation which pushes storylines on the electorate to keep people voting against their best interests, and voting in politicians that favor Ruturd and his BigMoney buddies in other industries. If it can generate profit, which Pox has now eventually done (not until 9/11 did it really take off), then bonus, bro!
So while they might lighten up on Obama for a bit to try to gain access, I don’t expect them to ever give Noam Chomsky or Naomi Klein a show no matter how Liberal the public becomes.
Do we recall how much the right wing expressed vehemence over this?
Teacher Sentenced For Hate Crime Hoax
Here’s a situation where some gal, a member of a trained McCain Youth Voting Recruitment group, creates a racist hoax in order to deliver an October surprise. While I agree that the gal likely has some mental illness (one that relates to an absence of ethical maturity), it’s also clear that she probably knew precisely what she was doing. This was a strategic act…an immoral one, though not an irrational one…at least from the perspective of the Republicans.
Case Example #1: The remarks of the director of FOX, who clearly saw politrical advantages to the “attack”, if it were true.
So give her therapy, in jail. While there she can ponder the consequences of her actions. That’s always a good thing in recognizing that one needs to change. Mollycoddling inappropriate behavior not only encourages future “attention-seeking” acts, but also suggests to others that it’s “okay”.
Consider that the police may have picked up individuals meeting her description, and processed them for a crime, when they were utterly innocent. Probably such individuals would have been harassed by the Republicans, especially if released. The gal would likely have had to “confirm” that “that’s the guy”. His background would have been dissected like a bug under a high-powered microscope. Was he an Obama supporter? Does he have any black activist background? A criminal history? Etc. Each “discovery” would be exaggerated and he would face more vilification. He would be guilty in a non-existent crime.
That’s what this could have opened up. And the racial tensions would be amped up as well…as those who defended his innocence would be castigated. How dare they defend a “criminal”!
We’ve seeen this sort of stuff before.
No doubt. No one here knows what this woman’s deal is. She could’ve done it very consciously to try to do anything she could to help McCain, since she was already out working for St. John, or she could have mental health issues, or about 5 other scenarios I can think up this moment, but we just don’t know.
As you and others have pointed out, we do know the consequences of accusing melanin-enhanced people of crimes they didn’t commit, and it’s extremely dangerous and detrimental to our society.
Reportedly, she has a history of mental illness.
As Joe Biden’s mom would say: “Bless her heart”.
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.co…..-hoax.html
Friday, October 24, 2008
Borderline Campaign Disorder: The “B” Hoax
On a cold night in –, a disturbed young woman committed an act all too common–she called in an attack on herself, stating that she had been attacked by a black man who had robbed her, and, seeing the McCain sticker on her car, in a fit of social activism somehow compatible with his immediately previous psychopathy, slashed a “B” into her face. ; that the B was, in fact, backwards–as would be the case if one was putting it on themsleves in a mirror, was no doubt meant as a literary irony, such as the “Amerika” of earlier social radicals, while the lightness of the scratching–despite his cited “rage”–was no doubt a signal of his electoral ambivalence in this tight race.
Of course, the event, implausible even to those most rabid fictionalists on right wing, was a hoax. Anyone who understands the diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder is well aware of what happened here. Extreme needs for attention combine with physically destructive behavior–most often seen in cutting one’s own skin–in an act meant to bring both outer love as it attacks inner self hate.
The act is rarely carefully planned. One of the key features of Borderline Personality Disorder is impulsivity. The act is usually spurred by rage. As a result, they spring to action, to address the immediate need, without any consideration of how the behavior will later unravel. There is simply an intense desire to address a powerful sense of abandonment with an impulsive and ultimately self-destructive action.
In a supreme irony, these characteristics–impulsivity, an emphasis on the grand gesture that is poorly thought through and ultimately self destructive–mirror the tactical efforts of the McCain/Palin ticket throughout this campaign.
Perhaps the act was wiser than it seems.
Perhaps it was meant as homage.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.co…..-hoax.html
Pittsburgh.
didn’t attack Tawana Brawley Todd, you attacked Greg B. Your comments sound like you’re trying to incite a lynching. Your excessive rhetoric is exactly what the wingnuts like to do to liberals. What about saving your energy for real targets like Bush, Cheney, and the rest, not some twenty-year old girl?
What in the hell are you talking about? Which were my “lynching” comments? Bush and Cheney? What? Basically, she was trying to blame Obama-loving bucks for disfiguring and raping her. If that’s a “cry for help” and not a disgusting calculation, well, that’s a cry that can be made from jail. I think that she’s responsible for her actions. That’s LYNCHING to you these days?
And this whole “mistakes will be made by 20 year olds” is just bizarre. She’s not some kid in Iraqi unsure if someone is aiming a gun at them or not. She went to PA from Texas to volunteer for the McCain campaign and she decided, for some reason, unbidden, I assume, to pull this stunt. Overzealous, but unprovoked.
Finally, you quote me:
And when I was 20, I was setting up adult literacy programs in Texas, so give me a break.
You say: Terrific self-promotion, well done.
Yeah, that’s why I said it. For that huge amount of credit I needed when doing something when I was much younger, not as an example that, overwhelmingly, 20 year olds are sentient adults fully capable of distinguishing between right and wrong. By your logic, I would have been more worthy if I had called the cops, the newspaper and a political campaign and said that a gang of Mexicans beat me up because I was trying to teach English as a Second Language.
What was the name of the program and what city was it in? Travis County Adult Literacy Council, Austin Texas. I was a VISTA volunteer. And I set up satellite programs in libraries in East Austin. Jackass.
I assume other people here also did non-idiotic things when they were 20 too.
I applaud you. Don’t expect much else around here.
I predict you will have to take a break from this place from time to time. Most of us have. People get pissed off and pissed on, retreat and lurk, and then return, maybe. Some come back. Some don’t. It’s really quite satisfying to be here and it’s also quite satisfying to walk away.
It is what it is.
188 comments! I doubt I haven’t anything to add that hasn’t already been said but here goes: I trust Ace of Spades, Confederate Yankee, and Michele Malkin are high-profiling this outrage on their blogs or would that be another dumbass fail?
I know, they only go after the stories that don’t really exist.
Wow.
This is the reason I rarely read the comments.
Sad but true.
If I may humbly venture to say so, sir — the comments on your posts are GREAT reading when you’re not a FDL front pager.
You attract an entirely different clientele of commenter than Politically Correct Head Up The Ass Central….. and the two don’t mix well.
Come to think of it…..wasn’t this something of an issue when you first moved in here?
The improved graphic….
http://www.dailyshocker.com/day/
The old blog had fewer psychobabble know-it-alls…. And a bigger pony picture, too.