Pretty funny, considering what a fascist Whitman is. Kinda smokescreeny, though, with Rahm Emanuel in charge of the day to day, Lieberman being kept on, faith based initiatives being maintained, no move contemplated on the Mormons’ 501(c)(3) status, no Bankruptcy Code reform contemplated or restoration of the Fourth Amendment or troop withdrawals on the horizon. The center is so far to the right that we’re being told Obama is a socialist. It is to laugh. Bitterly. But all you “it’s early days, give him a chance people” keep on serving up the kool Ais. This IS the chance and this new administration has no intention of changing anything much at all.
“`Ef you don’t lemme loose, I’ll knock you agin,’ sez Brer Rabbit, sezee, en wid dat he fotch ‘er a wipe wid de udder han’, en dat stuck. Tar-Baby, she ain’y sayin’ nuthin’, en Brer Fox, he lay low.
“`Tu’n me loose, fo’ I kick de natal stuffin’ outen you,’ sez Brer Rabbit, sezee, but de Tar-Baby, she ain’t sayin’ nuthin’. She des hilt on, en de Brer Rabbit lose de use er his feet in de same way. Brer Fox, he lay low. Den Brer Rabbit squall out dat ef de Tar-Baby don’t tu’n ‘im loose he butt ‘er cranksided. En den he butted, en his head got stuck.
Whitman’s level of denial is staggering. The Republican Party can’t win without either the moderate/undecideds that they lost or the fundies, and the magic coalition that W managed to duct-tape together is unlikely to come together, at least in the near future–there’s only so many election cycles that you can pull off before the god-botherers figure out that you’re not going to overturn Roe v. Wade. The fundies may be small in number, but they’re also motivated; it looks like it’s going to be Palin’s party for the time being, glory hallelujah.
For all her attempt at pulling the old “told ya so, nyah nyah nyah” on her former fuckbuddies in the GOP (not so many concerns about the troublesome neo-con agenda and the social fundies when it was time to screw mother nature for Dubya, was there?), Whitman and her partner-in-crime pretty much lost me at “Palin has many attractive qualities as a candidate.”
Hey, the Republicans can argue over which particular shade to paint their house of hatred and stupidity, I ain’t moving in. Ever. The brand that sucks to the core will always suck. But as JDM3 points out, the wingnuts have managed to convince the world that the middle is somewhere to the right of the Taliban, so when Obama shows up and proceeds to not so much as consider moving the deckchairs on the Titanic, it’s still supposed to be seen as some scary-ass social revolution… pathetic.
I wish Obama were half the socialist that they claim he is, but oh well.
The main goals I had for this election were (1) neocons OUT of office, and (2) not letting the talibangecals pick the next 2 or 3 Supremes. My hope was this would mean not invading Iran and whoever else they had on their tick-list, and not allowing the Supreme Court to turn even further to the right for the rest of my life. Anything else that gets accomplished in a progressive vein will be a nice, though extremely hard fought battle.
So, I grabbed my bottle of brain bleach and went over to Red State. Not a word, as yet, on Whitman article. Maybe they’re working up a Double Secret Operation Leper for her. There was a petition calling on the Republican governors to stop complaining about Palin sucking up all of the media oxygen at the RGA meeting.
Again: The ostracizing will continue until our numbers improve.
I agree with you on the main goals for a new administration. I’m hopeful that Obama will be able to use the economic crisis as a force for significant progressive change. Kind of the reverse of what W did post-9/11.
Looking across the Delaware River, I remember the proud pea-hen slashing taxes as the first order of business way back when.
Then as the state services dried up there were rumblings. The next phase was massive property tax increases locally to make up for the lost state income for schools, etc..
The final phase was Whitman wildly scrambling to undo the mess and running on the plank of “I am no longer a republican”, to eke out a narrow re-up.
The state has never really recovered from her term. And she is considered a model for this party?
Oh, by the way Christie? There is no moderate GOP.
I detested that woman the first time I ever heard her open her moronic mouth, which was when she gave the rethug response to Clinton’s SOTU in 1995.
Yo Sarah…..that’s when SHE was the new rising young “hot babe” Governess star of the rethuglican party. Now she’s a wrinkled old shrew reduced to screeching “Told you so!” on the OpEd page just to get someone to pay attention to her.
Ugh. Can we at least wait for Obama to become president before wailing and gnashing about how awful a sell-out he is? Can’t we actually wait for things to actually happen before speculating on how terrible it all is?
Emmanuel doesn’t control the political agenda — he expresses the president’s will throughout the White House and gets people on board. It’s not a policy position.
Lieberman hasn’t been settled, and at the very least, it’s not Obama’s call. He’s no longer a Senator and even then NO ONE really knows what he’s said about it behind the scenes.
No one’s going to go after religions’ tax exempt status for god’s sake, especially at the beginning of his term.
And the faith-based “continuation” is simply proof that you are talking out of your ass. There have been faith-based initiatives since the New Deal. The radicalism of Bush’s is that he funneled money to churches whose programs didn’t expressly deal with poverty, allowing discrimination based on orientation and creed. Obama’s plan is to revert to LBJ’s Great Society-era program with an emphasis on community organizations AND churches to address poverty, childhood education and homelessness, among other ills.
Hey, for Palin that’ll still be better than banging around in Popsicle Creek, AK (population low, IQ even lower) — she’s got to get out and exercise that hot new wardrobe of hers.
He’s NOT FUCKING PRESIDENT YET. What’s your plan? Whine incessantly? Get props for being cynical way ahead of the curve? Everything — everything — you are bitching about is complete conjecture AND nothing more than what you are imagining is happening. You don’t actually know, because Obama isn’t telling anyone. Speculation is bullshit. Divining the tea leaves is useless. And thinking that your pet projects (Lieberman and the tax exempt status of churches) are the most important THING EVAH!!!111! is ridiculous.
The only thing you bring up that has actual policy ramifications — the “faith/community-based” initiative Obama campaigned on — you clearly don’t understand, or simply hate out of knee-jerk understanding of “churches” and not “the community safety net”.
Yo JDM3, I think you’d find the ambiance much more to your liking over on the FDL “All Lieberman All the Time” side of the fence. Whining knee-jerk head up the assers are like, the kewl kids over there.
While it’s true that Obama hasn’t done anything yet as it’s only 10 days since the election, the let’s wait and see what happens idea is basically a poor one. It is the same problem the timid Tom Daschle run senate had when dealing with Bush. It’s reactive not leading. If things don’t go the way you want, the die is already cast and the policy set.
Therefore now is the time that those that want real change need to be trying to get the correct agenda items onto Obama’s schedule. Of course whining about it on a message board isn’t really part of the solution; but while it is more annoying, it is likely less long term damaging than wait and see-ism
He’s NOT FUCKING PRESIDENT YET. What’s your plan? Whine incessantly? Get props for being cynical way ahead of the curve?
Being reflexively, unthinkingly cynical is in many ways a cover for laziness. Skepticism involves thought; cynicism is reflexive. If you’re excessively cynical, it saps your will to act and to persevere. Many of the people who are whining the loudest are all too often among the people who did the least on Obama’s or any other progressive’s behalf.
Everything — everything — you are bitching about is complete conjecture AND nothing more than what you are imagining is happening. You don’t actually know, because Obama isn’t telling anyone. Speculation is bullshit. Divining the tea leaves is useless. And thinking that your pet projects (Lieberman and the tax exempt status of churches) are the most important THING EVAH!!!111! is ridiculous.
The only thing you bring up that has actual policy ramifications — the “faith/community-based” initiative Obama campaigned on — you clearly don’t understand, or simply hate out of knee-jerk understanding of “churches” and not “the community safety net”
Exactly. As you’ve mentioned, churches and the Feds have worked together for decades. Bush went and blew out the safeguards on Fed-church interactions. Obama proposes putting back these safeguards. But some people, particularly those who never liked Obama anyway and are grasping for reasons to keep disliking him, just plain refuse to see this.
I think he has to be inaugurated before he can do anything. And if nothing else, the lack of public action has to be playing hell with the shallow end of the gene pool. They’re still stuck on Bill “I was dangerous 40 years ago — BOO!” Ayers.
The best thing about Obama being so quiet and disciplined about leaking plans and names? Scares the hell out of the Faux Spews crew and associated hangers-on. Also, any idea floated that does not fit their much discussed “center right country” crap will get shot to pieces before the new administration has the bully pulpit to defend it from. Indeed; let us all chill.
Pretty funny, considering what a fascist Whitman is. Kinda smokescreeny, though, with Rahm Emanuel in charge of the day to day, Lieberman being kept on, faith based initiatives being maintained, no move contemplated on the Mormons’ 501(c)(3) status, no Bankruptcy Code reform contemplated or restoration of the Fourth Amendment or troop withdrawals on the horizon. The center is so far to the right that we’re being told Obama is a socialist. It is to laugh. Bitterly. But all you “it’s early days, give him a chance people” keep on serving up the kool Ais. This IS the chance and this new administration has no intention of changing anything much at all.
She deserves to go to hell, let me tell you why so you don’t have to ask me. The 9-11 clean-up.
I guess the GOP never heard this story:
Hey, good luck with that.
Love the pic! Those wingnuts win the stoopid signage award going away.
After reading her comments, my shorter Gov. Whitman would be:
“Nah, nah, nah, I told you so!”
Whitman’s level of denial is staggering. The Republican Party can’t win without either the moderate/undecideds that they lost or the fundies, and the magic coalition that W managed to duct-tape together is unlikely to come together, at least in the near future–there’s only so many election cycles that you can pull off before the god-botherers figure out that you’re not going to overturn Roe v. Wade. The fundies may be small in number, but they’re also motivated; it looks like it’s going to be Palin’s party for the time being, glory hallelujah.
For all her attempt at pulling the old “told ya so, nyah nyah nyah” on her former fuckbuddies in the GOP (not so many concerns about the troublesome neo-con agenda and the social fundies when it was time to screw mother nature for Dubya, was there?), Whitman and her partner-in-crime pretty much lost me at “Palin has many attractive qualities as a candidate.”
Hey, the Republicans can argue over which particular shade to paint their house of hatred and stupidity, I ain’t moving in. Ever. The brand that sucks to the core will always suck. But as JDM3 points out, the wingnuts have managed to convince the world that the middle is somewhere to the right of the Taliban, so when Obama shows up and proceeds to not so much as consider moving the deckchairs on the Titanic, it’s still supposed to be seen as some scary-ass social revolution… pathetic.
It’s been said that if you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
Or, to be a bit more classical about it, CTW can cry “Out, damn’d spot! out, I say!” all she wants, that blood ain’t comin’ off.
I wish Obama were half the socialist that they claim he is, but oh well.
The main goals I had for this election were (1) neocons OUT of office, and (2) not letting the talibangecals pick the next 2 or 3 Supremes. My hope was this would mean not invading Iran and whoever else they had on their tick-list, and not allowing the Supreme Court to turn even further to the right for the rest of my life. Anything else that gets accomplished in a progressive vein will be a nice, though extremely hard fought battle.
So, I grabbed my bottle of brain bleach and went over to Red State. Not a word, as yet, on Whitman article. Maybe they’re working up a Double Secret Operation Leper for her. There was a petition calling on the Republican governors to stop complaining about Palin sucking up all of the media oxygen at the RGA meeting.
Again: The ostracizing will continue until our numbers improve.
Stringona…
I agree with you on the main goals for a new administration. I’m hopeful that Obama will be able to use the economic crisis as a force for significant progressive change. Kind of the reverse of what W did post-9/11.
Looking across the Delaware River, I remember the proud pea-hen slashing taxes as the first order of business way back when.
Then as the state services dried up there were rumblings. The next phase was massive property tax increases locally to make up for the lost state income for schools, etc..
The final phase was Whitman wildly scrambling to undo the mess and running on the plank of “I am no longer a republican”, to eke out a narrow re-up.
The state has never really recovered from her term. And she is considered a model for this party?
Oh, by the way Christie? There is no moderate GOP.
I detested that woman the first time I ever heard her open her moronic mouth, which was when she gave the rethug response to Clinton’s SOTU in 1995.
Yo Sarah…..that’s when SHE was the new rising young “hot babe” Governess star of the rethuglican party. Now she’s a wrinkled old shrew reduced to screeching “Told you so!” on the OpEd page just to get someone to pay attention to her.
Ten years from now that’ll be YOU, sweetie.
Ugh. Can we at least wait for Obama to become president before wailing and gnashing about how awful a sell-out he is? Can’t we actually wait for things to actually happen before speculating on how terrible it all is?
Emmanuel doesn’t control the political agenda — he expresses the president’s will throughout the White House and gets people on board. It’s not a policy position.
Lieberman hasn’t been settled, and at the very least, it’s not Obama’s call. He’s no longer a Senator and even then NO ONE really knows what he’s said about it behind the scenes.
No one’s going to go after religions’ tax exempt status for god’s sake, especially at the beginning of his term.
And the faith-based “continuation” is simply proof that you are talking out of your ass. There have been faith-based initiatives since the New Deal. The radicalism of Bush’s is that he funneled money to churches whose programs didn’t expressly deal with poverty, allowing discrimination based on orientation and creed. Obama’s plan is to revert to LBJ’s Great Society-era program with an emphasis on community organizations AND churches to address poverty, childhood education and homelessness, among other ills.
Hey, for Palin that’ll still be better than banging around in Popsicle Creek, AK (population low, IQ even lower) — she’s got to get out and exercise that hot new wardrobe of hers.
Perhaps a reverse of The Shock Doctrine? I sure hope so.
Sure. Just keep on waiting and seeing. Swell plan.
Dude, it’s been eleven days. Name one Obama cabinet member. Name one Obama executive action.
Chill.
He’s NOT FUCKING PRESIDENT YET. What’s your plan? Whine incessantly? Get props for being cynical way ahead of the curve? Everything — everything — you are bitching about is complete conjecture AND nothing more than what you are imagining is happening. You don’t actually know, because Obama isn’t telling anyone. Speculation is bullshit. Divining the tea leaves is useless. And thinking that your pet projects (Lieberman and the tax exempt status of churches) are the most important THING EVAH!!!111! is ridiculous.
The only thing you bring up that has actual policy ramifications — the “faith/community-based” initiative Obama campaigned on — you clearly don’t understand, or simply hate out of knee-jerk understanding of “churches” and not “the community safety net”.
right the fuck ON.
Yo JDM3, I think you’d find the ambiance much more to your liking over on the FDL “All Lieberman All the Time” side of the fence. Whining knee-jerk head up the assers are like, the kewl kids over there.
While it’s true that Obama hasn’t done anything yet as it’s only 10 days since the election, the let’s wait and see what happens idea is basically a poor one. It is the same problem the timid Tom Daschle run senate had when dealing with Bush. It’s reactive not leading. If things don’t go the way you want, the die is already cast and the policy set.
Therefore now is the time that those that want real change need to be trying to get the correct agenda items onto Obama’s schedule. Of course whining about it on a message board isn’t really part of the solution; but while it is more annoying, it is likely less long term damaging than wait and see-ism
Beat me to it.
Come sit by me. We’ll keep our heads down while the circular firing squad loads up.
Being reflexively, unthinkingly cynical is in many ways a cover for laziness. Skepticism involves thought; cynicism is reflexive. If you’re excessively cynical, it saps your will to act and to persevere. Many of the people who are whining the loudest are all too often among the people who did the least on Obama’s or any other progressive’s behalf.
Exactly. As you’ve mentioned, churches and the Feds have worked together for decades. Bush went and blew out the safeguards on Fed-church interactions. Obama proposes putting back these safeguards. But some people, particularly those who never liked Obama anyway and are grasping for reasons to keep disliking him, just plain refuse to see this.
I think he has to be inaugurated before he can do anything. And if nothing else, the lack of public action has to be playing hell with the shallow end of the gene pool. They’re still stuck on Bill “I was dangerous 40 years ago — BOO!” Ayers.
The best thing about Obama being so quiet and disciplined about leaking plans and names? Scares the hell out of the Faux Spews crew and associated hangers-on. Also, any idea floated that does not fit their much discussed “center right country” crap will get shot to pieces before the new administration has the bully pulpit to defend it from. Indeed; let us all chill.