Comments on: Running with scissors fundies

By: StringonaStickformerlyMakeItStop

StringonaStickformerlyMakeItStop — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:03:34 +0000

The best thing about Obama being so quiet and disciplined about leaking plans and names? Scares the hell out of the Faux Spews crew and associated hangers-on. Also, any idea floated that does not fit their much discussed “center right country” crap will get shot to pieces before the new administration has the bully pulpit to defend it from. Indeed; let us all chill.

By: paulbeard

paulbeard — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:41:13 +0000

I think he has to be inaugurated before he can do anything. And if nothing else, the lack of public action has to be playing hell with the shallow end of the gene pool. They’re still stuck on Bill “I was dangerous 40 years ago — BOO!” Ayers.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:45:28 +0000

He’s NOT FUCKING PRESIDENT YET. What’s your plan? Whine incessantly? Get props for being cynical way ahead of the curve?

Being reflexively, unthinkingly cynical is in many ways a cover for laziness. Skepticism involves thought; cynicism is reflexive. If you’re excessively cynical, it saps your will to act and to persevere. Many of the people who are whining the loudest are all too often among the people who did the least on Obama’s or any other progressive’s behalf.

Everything — everything — you are bitching about is complete conjecture AND nothing more than what you are imagining is happening. You don’t actually know, because Obama isn’t telling anyone. Speculation is bullshit. Divining the tea leaves is useless. And thinking that your pet projects (Lieberman and the tax exempt status of churches) are the most important THING EVAH!!!111! is ridiculous.

The only thing you bring up that has actual policy ramifications — the “faith/community-based” initiative Obama campaigned on — you clearly don’t understand, or simply hate out of knee-jerk understanding of “churches” and not “the community safety net”

Exactly. As you’ve mentioned, churches and the Feds have worked together for decades. Bush went and blew out the safeguards on Fed-church interactions. Obama proposes putting back these safeguards. But some people, particularly those who never liked Obama anyway and are grasping for reasons to keep disliking him, just plain refuse to see this.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:37:21 +0000

Come sit by me. We’ll keep our heads down while the circular firing squad loads up.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:35:33 +0000

Beat me to it.

By: BillCinSD

BillCinSD — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:38:59 +0000

While it’s true that Obama hasn’t done anything yet as it’s only 10 days since the election, the let’s wait and see what happens idea is basically a poor one. It is the same problem the timid Tom Daschle run senate had when dealing with Bush. It’s reactive not leading. If things don’t go the way you want, the die is already cast and the policy set.

Therefore now is the time that those that want real change need to be trying to get the correct agenda items onto Obama’s schedule. Of course whining about it on a message board isn’t really part of the solution; but while it is more annoying, it is likely less long term damaging than wait and see-ism

By: juste

juste — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:44:48 +0000

right the fuck ON.

Yo JDM3, I think you’d find the ambiance much more to your liking over on the FDL “All Lieberman All the Time” side of the fence. Whining knee-jerk head up the assers are like, the kewl kids over there.

By: JayBrida

JayBrida — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:27:30 +0000

He’s NOT FUCKING PRESIDENT YET. What’s your plan? Whine incessantly? Get props for being cynical way ahead of the curve? Everything — everything — you are bitching about is complete conjecture AND nothing more than what you are imagining is happening. You don’t actually know, because Obama isn’t telling anyone. Speculation is bullshit. Divining the tea leaves is useless. And thinking that your pet projects (Lieberman and the tax exempt status of churches) are the most important THING EVAH!!!111! is ridiculous.

The only thing you bring up that has actual policy ramifications — the “faith/community-based” initiative Obama campaigned on — you clearly don’t understand, or simply hate out of knee-jerk understanding of “churches” and not “the community safety net”.

By: amaravilha

amaravilha — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:16:07 +0000

Dude, it’s been eleven days. Name one Obama cabinet member. Name one Obama executive action.

Chill.

By: JDM3

JDM3 — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:57:35 +0000

Sure. Just keep on waiting and seeing. Swell plan.