Comments on: Mercenary Territory

By: paulbeard

paulbeard — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:29:01 +0000

They think it’s a popularity contest based on Q scores and focus groups, exactly the stuff they attacked Obama’s base for.

Hmmmm . . .

By: aimai

aimai — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:41:19 +0000

I agree, tbogg. I’m not the first or the last person to say it. This is going to be another Stonewall. Prop 8 was the last gasp of the know nothings and the haters–support for gay marriage is going to continue to climb as more and more people come out to their neighbors, family, and friends and more and more people make it their mission to make it personal, very personal. Most of the people who voted for prop 8 in the california election don’t really want to be the person standing in the church door with the axe-handle they just didn’t think it through. They are fundamentallystupid people, but not evil. As I looked at the protests all over the country yesterday I saw the tip of a movement that is simply going to demand its rights and that is going to run right over the religious bigots. It may take a few years but you can’t put that genii back in the bottle.

aimai

By: Tehanu

Tehanu — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:58:38 +0000

Frank Schubert actually wrote that Palin was a better candidate for VP than Biden because she was a mother who looked good on TV and he was middle-aged and balding?

Jesus H. Christ. What is wrong with these people?

By: pseudonymousinnc

pseudonymousinnc — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:04:53 +0000

So many people I’ve worked with brag about all their “charitable” activities they participate in through their churches, and they all admit if there were no tax exemption they wouldn’t bother.

That reminds me of an interesting discussion with my mother-in-law about leaving checks in the collection box to itemize the tax writeoff. Catholics (in general) do cash.

I think Prop H8 is a step too far, and though the No campaign had its frailties, the outcome is that the LDS, Knights of Bigotry et al. will reap the whirlwind.

By: moistenedbink

moistenedbink — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:51:59 +0000

BTW TBogg, you may want to follow up on this since this country is now outsourcing medical procedures, not just the reading of xrays and catscans. Imagine being forced onto a plane and sent to a foreign country for you health care? WTF indeed.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap.....DKJT00.htm

By: moistenedbink

moistenedbink — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:47:47 +0000

Well, I’m sure his gay sister loves him anyway and understands that he makes a living being a mercenary.

Hopefully, this country is fully awake after the last, terrible 8 years and not only will civil rights for all finally prevail but also universal health care. Not health insurance, which is a morally deficient bet on your life, but health care. Taking away one of the major stresses in this country, having to stay in a job you hate in order to have health insurance, to having no health insurance, to not knowing if you will be able to survive the co-pays on minimal insurance, to getting sick because your dental health affects your physical health, to having to be on the hook for an uninsured medical procedure….the stress level in this country would recede in an enormous way and since stress is one of the biggest reasons we get sick…cause and effect babies, cause and effect.
Why we, the supposed smartest and wealthiest country in the world, (at least in history) can not provide this when all other modern industrialized countries can is a mystery and a shame. Maybe now is the time.

By: xpurg8d

xpurg8d — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:41:49 +0000

All of them should lose it. So many people I’ve worked with brag about all their “charitable” activities they participate in through their churches, and they all admit if there were no tax exemption they wouldn’t bother. People like that are not charitable, they use the ruse of church affiliation to help themselves to tax breaks.

If churches lose their tax exemptions they will be able to continue to advocate for their agendas through political means, and they should be able to do so. They might have a little problem doing all they wish to do when their pseudo-pious members decide Sundays are better spent on the golf course if there’s no return on showing up for the services, but they’ll have to make do with only the truest believers.

By: xpurg8d

xpurg8d — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:34:45 +0000

What makes you think he doesn’t already have such an affliction? It would be negligent not to speculate.

By: neurophius

neurophius — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:33:40 +0000

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By: DrDick

DrDick — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:08:53 +0000

I would like to see all of them lose it. Churches have shielded far too much wealth behind that exemption. They should be taxed like any other nonprofit, unless (like many) they are actually making a profit in which case they pay standard corporate rates (life’s a bitch Rev. Falwell).

captphealy - This may be a good thing for the LGBT community in the long run by mobilizing the community. As I told some of my gay students last spring, it has been rather a long time since Stonewall. The unfortunate truth is that minorities who “play nice” simply get ignored or steam rolled. Sometimes you have to stand up and make a stink to get what you need and deserve.