Also not included were the idiot Democratic Senators who just let Joe Lieberman keep his Homeland Security gavel. Morans.

Love the Sarah clips!

The sad thing is that Connecticut apparently doesn’t have a recall provision, so even though he’s nearly as hated as Bush now we can’t dislodge him before 2012.

Lieberschmuck cites Obama’s support as a principal reason for Lieberschmuck’s survival and this “compromise.” Does mentioning this make me “cynical” or a bad leftist, or does it undercscore the need to stay after Obama, who’s NOT acting like much of a Dem if he supports slobs like Lieberman? Or is it now time for you to say I’m stupid again and just don’t understand the subtle realities of the situation? You’re not very good at “dislodging” people like lieberschmuck, but you do have a big, loud mouth.

that last remark is addressed to Phoenix Woman, if it’s not unmistakably clear.

82.6 could NOT correctly say that Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)
88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)
56.1 % could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

How many could correctly say that each of these statements is par for the conservative course as far as taking a slanted distortion of the record and pretending it’s what actually happened?

These tools can’t make an honest argument even when they set the terms of the debate.

…an honest argument even when they set the terms of the debate.

Not tools, not arguments, simply war chants of a primitive people.

I understand asking who Pelosi and Reid are, but what wass the obsession with Barney Frank?

Lieberman’s term will be up in 2010.

Whoops. Miscalculated. My bad 2012 it is.

The focus on Frank becomes apparent when you remember that this whole thing is just a big multi-media push poll:

Do you know… Barney Frank IS TEH GAY! Booga booga booga!

Next phase of the rollout, we will be informed that MICHAEL MORE IS FAT!!!!1! Bwaa haa haa!

Too quick to post… “Moore”, not “More”, obviously.

Although… He so fat, Moore always want more! Bwaa haa haa! /wingnut

in case you missed it, the “returnage” in the post title was ironic.

Then again, you ARE a moran.

Short of an IQ transplant, the pig people will always be with us. Unfortunate, but true. Perhaps we should do a little Aikido on their hot button social issues; perhaps keeping them in a tizzy about this stuff keeps them out of the way while the adults attempt to clean up the mess of that last 8 years.

OT, but I watched the 60 minutes interview with Obama this past weekend, and I have to say it is remakably refreshing to have someone about to assume the POTS office who doesn’t chatter like a gibbering moron, and actually spoke as if to an audience of adults. It’s been so long…

Nate Silver at 538 dot com wrote extensively last night about Zogby participating in this push poll.

Well, it would make you smarter if you had some inclination that Obama saying he “wanted to keep Lieberman in the Democratic caucus” had little to do with the argument. He’s not in the Senate anymore. And sure, that might have been the deciding factor in Reid’s gutlessness — but does anyone really think it was?

It was up to the Senate Democrats, not the president-elect, and they could have done anything they wanted.

Does it make me gullible to think that the Executive branch should have little bearing on the internal business of the Senate?

But yes, it’s Obama’s fault. Yet again. Meanwhile, he addressed governors on climate change and reiterated his commitment to government investment in green jobs, emission reduction and alternative energy.

Since that’s not pointless posturing or endless speculation, I’m sure it’s less relevant to how he’ll do as President.

Oh, snap. jay n’ juste sure got me good.

The sad thing is, the discussion is turning on the decision re: the Douchebag from Connecticut (henceforth TDFC) as a reflection on whether or not to punish him for supporting McCain over Obama. Actually, this never bugged me all that much, and was, in fact its own reward, as TDFC will never attain a cabinet post, as he surely would have had Nov. 4 not ended the way it did.

The main reasons for stripping TDFC of his Homeland Security gavel had nothing to do with the Presidential election; they had to do with the fact that TDFC has been (and has shown every sign that he will continue to be) a shitty Chair for that committee. Now, if I were an optimist, I might think that, when leadership in the Senate is assigned for the incoming Congress in January, that TDFC will, in fact, be stripped of that gavel. But I am not an optimist.

Added thought: I would really like to play poker with Reid & Co. They can’t bluff for shit.

actually, the All Lieberman All The Time wing of the party has come full circle on this, cuz last week that quote from Obama prompted Greenwald to deliver one of his interminable multi-updated lectures on the topic of Separation of Powers. So Obama is damned if does and damned if he doesn’t
– quelle surprise.

yeah.

Lieberman should have been booted from the caucus from where i sit, but then it’s not his call. I’m with Greenwald on the separation of powers.

I just don’t get what JDM3 is up in arms about this time. Obama campaigned on the post-partisan bullshit, and his statement of support on Lieberman reflects that. I think it’s fluff and bullshit, but it seems incredibly obtuse to be so shocked and horrified about him actually following through on his promise. Did it sneak up on you JDM3?

Reid, of course, has no such excuse and should be removed as Majority Leader. And I should be able to fly. Neither will happen. And I too share captphealy’s pessimism on the Senate. But that’s a separate discussion.

Not at all, Jay, but snot nosed sniping from other Dems and lefties about how the rest of us are are dumb, inadequate members of the Obama vanguard as you see it can and do get very tiresome. I guess i’ll just sit back now because you believe that the president elect has no influence over what happens in the Senate or his own political party. Shrewd, insightful analysis. Helpful and effective. Nothing’s gonna sneak up on you. Quick, now, call me cynical or slow. LOL.

From the Wikipedia page on John Ziegler, the genius who thought up this brilliant idea:

during a Ask John Anything segment, he discussed the physical attributes, intimate attire, and genital grooming of Darcie Divita, a former Los Angeles Lakers cheerleader and WDRB morning television host with whom Ziegler had a relationship until Divita broke up with him.

Class out the ass, baby.

RE Liberman:

Didn’t take the fucks long to betray us, did it?

Not at all, Jay, but snot nosed sniping from other Dems and lefties about how the rest of us are are dumb, inadequate members of the Obama vanguard as you see it can and do get very tiresome,.

Not nearly as tiresome as endless whining about things that haven’t happened, preemptive whining about disappointments you think you’ll have, confused parsing on speculative gossip and fun-for-all carping about the terminal sell-out Obama has become in the two weeks since the election by staying true to his campaign rhetoric — all in the guise that it’s YOU who has the singular truth about the Fix that is In.

I guess i’ll just sit back now because you believe that the president elect has no influence over what happens in the Senate or his own political party.

Good point! I forgot that Harry Reid was an effective, forceful leader before Obama was elected and now he’s just rolling over for the president-elect. As proof of Reid’s fearsome presence, and Obama’s clear control over Senate politics, Freshmen Senators like Jeff Merkeley are apparently allowed to speak out against Lieberman just to throw us liberals off the scent!

And I don’t think you are as cynical — if you were cynical, you could think Obama’s statement was a ploy and rationalize it a mite better — as you are hysterical. I don’t particularly care if you oppose Obama, and I sure as shit don’t care if you think I’m blind for deciding to wait until he’s actually named his cabinet and done something substantive (like being sworn in perhaps!) before judging him a failure or insufficiently pure or guilty of wrongtalk, but it won’t preclude me from pointing out that he still hasn’t done anything yet.

Here’s a helpful list of things that Obama has not yet done as President:

- Signed an economic aid bill
- Crafted an economic policy
- Implemented a foreign policy
- Ended the war in Iraq or Afghanistan
- Implemented an energy policy
- Nominated a Supreme Court Justice
- Named a single person to his cabinet
- Solved the mortgage crisis, closed Gitmo, addressed regulatory deficits, ended global warming, dealt with climate change, given a State of the Union, drafted a budget
- Taken the Oath of Office

But again: Feel free to panic!

Let’s not mistake this for anything other than what it is: the Senate telling the world they will not be pushed around by the Left. We’ve been Sister Souljah’d. They’re telling us that we don’t control the agenda and they have no plans whatsoever to do anything that we think they should do. Doesn’t it make you feel good about all the voting, volunteering, and donating you just did?

I’m sorry, I know the above message sounds like trolling. It’s meant more in terms of frustration. I’m tired of my own party treating me as a boogeyman, even when it’s obvious that the majority of the country believes in a lot of the same things I do. At this point, if Obama does plan on doing any of the things he’s said he will do, he will promptly be undercut by his own Congress.

Let’s not mistake “what this is” from what Jane Hamsher tells you that it is. Jesus Christ, what a bunch of bleating knee jerk sheep you people are.

The Senate is bigger than Jesus, Goliath, and The Beetles now…

Much to his amazement, Bart is sent to jail as the townspeople claim that Goliath was the best King they ever had, building roads, libraries and hospitals.

Uh-oh — THE ACLU SELLS OUT. From Anthony Romero, direct from my inbox:

I’ve never done this before. In my entire seven years as the ACLU’s executive director, I have never asked you to sign a presidential petition written in appreciation and support, rather than in outrage and protest.

That’s how dramatically different things can be now.

After eight years of a Bush administration that thumbed its nose at the Constitution and the rule of law, it was incredibly gratifying to see President-elect Obama in his “60 Minutes” interview affirm his intentions to reject torture and put an end to the Guantánamo prison camp and its sham military commission system which have been a stain on America’s name at home and abroad.

Those pansies. Don’t they see all the shit Obama didn’t say to the satisfaction of some people? Well, that’s it. They’re blind. And stupid. And just doing it for The One.

Eric Holder.

Those who counseled waiting until he “did” something before criticizing Obama are looking brighter by the millisecond.

Or did this abortion of a nomination not “happen” yet? HAHAHAHA!!!

Assholes.

TBogg, obviously you just need accept Jesus into your heart.

Digg

Don’t you TBogg readers believe in Digging?

Gosh, I’m sure glad all the video taken of me in ACT-UP by the Christian Right back in the early 90’s was’nt digital and way before You Tube came along. It is probably laying around in some church basement somewhere in Orange County right now.

Look above.

Oops… that was for neuro @ 33

You should see the one of me stripping with a Reagan mask on!

You should see the one of me stripping with a Reagan mask on!

On what?

a rug? lol

OK, I see that this post has now registered 3 Diggs. That is good.

But who do you think submitted the comment to Digg, just before posting comment 33?

(peeking around the corner after brushing my teeth on my way to hit the feathers and heard this–)
paul simon on colbert tonight, singing one of my favorite songs of all time.

don’t miss it.

gnite.

Looks like the post election purge is beginning at Fux Noose.

E.D. ‘Terrorist fist jab’ Hill is out of work.

-G

That’s a faux aw

“C’mon, Amurrican Peeeple! DIs don’t make much sense, does it?”

Never ceases to entertain, painful as it is.

Those were the days…..we were much more likely to get our point across by taking some clothes off.

If you haven’t read Nate Silver’s interview of Ziegler, it is a must read… F*cking hilarious…!

That Palin clip just keeps getting better with age. Hilarious.

I played this game with the bunch of 20-30-something nurses with whom I work. All but one are Republicans. Firstly, they “all” thought we were in Iraq because “they” attacked us in New York and Washington. Secondly, they knew “none” of the principle players in “their” party, either. Let’s face it, most people are not very well informed regarding government or the people who govern.

Also when did “moron” become “moran”?

This guy.

One of the things were were thinking about doing in our retiring years was to visit Alaska.

Would I have a 50% chance of finding someone among the population who almost voted in a convicted felon as their Senator and elected a governor who chases witches who could figure out how to boil an egg or change our sheets?

The ignorant always attract the ignorant.

Thanks…I do remember the guy with the “moran” sign, now that you refreshed my memory. There was so much going on during this past election, it was hard to keep it all straight. Glad it’s over…glad it turned out the way it did!!!!!

Well, actually, it’s not totally over…Georgia and Minnesota still undecided. And what’s up with Missouri, did that ever get resolved?

Eric Holder.

Yeah. What about him?

Those who counseled waiting until he “did” something before criticizing Obama are looking brighter by the millisecond.

So what’s the criticism smart guy? Marc Rich? That was bad. This, taken from a speech he gave in 2004, is good:

The notion that the Department of Justice would in essence sanction the use of torture as part of the President’s plenary power over military operations is as wrong as it is shortsighted. This position flies in the face of the entire history of American law, helping to create a climate in which unnecessarily abusive conduct can somehow be considered legitimate.

It also puts our own soldiers, the young men and young women who fight bravely for the United States today, and will again tomorrow, at risk of similar abuse should they be captured by the enemy on a now unknown foreign battlefield. What will the United States say about their treatment then? How will an American President seek to credibly invoke the protections of the Geneva Convention in the future? This memorandum and other policies are reflective of a politicized Justice Department that is no longer tethered to its traditional moorings.

WOW! He sounds AWFUL!

Or did this abortion of a nomination not “happen” yet? HAHAHAHA!!!

Again, what’s your problem with it? Are we supposed to disagree with this:

The solutions are contained within a new, dynamic, progressive movement that has the ability to inspire and motivate the people of this nation in the way that progressives have in the past. That ability exists in this room, and in the law schools, and in the courtrooms, and in the law offices around this country. It is our task to unlock, to unleash the creative energy needed to give life to this renewed movement. It is not enough for us to gather at annual meetings, to participate in panels, and to return to our communities, and be content to observe, or to passively criticize, the now dominant governing philosophy. ?

I mean sell-outs like Al Girodano — who is smarter and farther left than halfassed whiners like you — said this: And on that note, I opine: If the reports of Eric Holder as a possible Attorney General come true (and, again, we won’t really know until there is an official statement from Obama or his staff), I think that’s a fine choice to bring civil liberties and civil rights back into the legal system after so many years of exile. And it doesn’t matter to me a whit who he represented as an attorney because that’s also how the legal system should work.

Assholes.

Another great rejoinder. If you think Holder is an ‘abortion’, maybe you should, you know, explain why.

Moreover, I don’t know if a AG Holder is good or not. I’ve reserved my judgement, rather than frantically jumping to it.

From what I know, his role in Marc Rich pardon is pretty shitty, although he’s also backpedaled from it and seems capable of shame. His stint as a corporate lawyer raises some red flags, but as Girodano points out: this is how the legal system works.

But his support for widespread civil rights and his oft-stated commitment to civil liberties (and his blanket condemnation of torture) seem to be VERY solid things for an Attorney General to have.

And finally, it’s bizarre. I’ve been critical of you because you’ve been whining about things that HAVEN’T happened. Now that this seems to be happening, you don’t even make a case against it, except for an incredibly hysterical knee-jerk opposition to it underscoring the idea that you have nothing to say.

And oooh-noooo: Glenn Greenwald is cautiously optimistic about Holder too. Can you get more in the bag than that? Changes? Pfft.

You really are a hysteric aren’t you?

Let’s not mistake this for anything other than what it is: the Senate telling the world they will not be pushed around by the Left. We’ve been Sister Souljah’d. . . .

Whoa! Let’s take another look at this picture. Lieberman has been permitted to retain the gavel of one of the three committees he chaired–Homeland Security–allegedly in an attempt to avoid the appearance of rancor within the party. At the time this decision was made, there were at least 2 Senate seats where the outcome remained undecided–in GA and MN. You never know when a spare Democratic vote might come in handy on certain issues–even if the vote belongs to a total effin’ a**wipe.

The beauty of this decision is the fact that it IS the Office of Homeland Security, which while approved by Congress is a Cabinet-level organization that is part of the Executive Branch. If Joe decides to be a total shmuck, the President can decide that the Office has been a dismal failure and move to disband it. This would not be difficult to justify before Congress: The combination of FEMA, the FBI, the National Guard, the Coast Guard, ICE, etc., has proven to be little more than a welfare program for defense contractors, and a huge money sink–costing exponentially more than the combined total of its subsumed departments. As the response during Katrina pointed up, administration of DHS was so unwieldy that a coordinated plan for each department had yet to be approved more than a year after its formation. The jurisdictional dick-waving between the members of the various departments virtually insures that there will never be enough cooperation among them to fundtion effectively–even in an emergency. The ranks of the administrative positions are filled with a redundancy of hacks with seniority, who can’t be fired without cause–which means that unless someone catches them snorting cocaine or swilling scotch at their desks more than once, they will continue to take 2-hour lunch breaks and half-hour coffee/pee breaks at public expense until they retire at full pay with medical benefits and COLA, or have a freakin’ coronary from eating 4-serving-sized microwave meals for lunch.

HoJoe’s days are numbered….