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		<title>By: Ruthie</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/morans-for-mavrick-the-returnage/comment-page-1/#comment-22344</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let’s not mistake this for anything other than what it is: the Senate telling the world they will not be pushed around by the Left. We’ve been Sister Souljah’d. . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whoa! Let’s take another look at this picture. Lieberman has been permitted to retain the gavel of one of the three committees he chaired–Homeland Security–allegedly in an attempt to avoid the appearance of rancor within the party. At the time this decision was made, there were at least 2 Senate seats where the outcome remained undecided–in GA and MN. You never know when a spare Democratic vote might come in handy on certain issues–even if the vote belongs to a total effin’ a**wipe. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The beauty of this decision is the fact that it IS the Office of Homeland Security, which while approved by Congress is a Cabinet-level organization that is part of the Executive Branch. If Joe decides to be a total shmuck, the President can decide that the Office has been a dismal failure and move to disband it. This would not be difficult to justify before Congress: The combination of FEMA, the FBI, the National Guard, the Coast Guard, ICE, etc., has proven to be little more than a welfare program for defense contractors, and a huge money sink–costing exponentially more than the combined total of its subsumed departments.  As the response during Katrina pointed up, administration of DHS was so unwieldy that a coordinated plan for each department had yet to be approved more than a year after its formation. The jurisdictional dick-waving between the members of the various departments virtually insures that there will never be enough cooperation among them to fundtion effectively–even in an emergency. The ranks of the administrative positions are filled with a redundancy of hacks with seniority, who can’t be fired without cause–which means that unless someone catches them snorting cocaine or swilling scotch at their desks more than once, they will continue to take 2-hour lunch breaks and half-hour coffee/pee breaks at public expense until they retire at full pay with medical benefits and COLA, or have a freakin’ coronary from eating 4-serving-sized microwave meals for lunch. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HoJoe’s days are numbered….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let’s not mistake this for anything other than what it is: the Senate telling the world they will not be pushed around by the Left. We’ve been Sister Souljah’d. . . .</p>
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<p>Whoa! Let’s take another look at this picture. Lieberman has been permitted to retain the gavel of one of the three committees he chaired–Homeland Security–allegedly in an attempt to avoid the appearance of rancor within the party. At the time this decision was made, there were at least 2 Senate seats where the outcome remained undecided–in GA and MN. You never know when a spare Democratic vote might come in handy on certain issues–even if the vote belongs to a total effin’ a**wipe. </p>
<p>The beauty of this decision is the fact that it IS the Office of Homeland Security, which while approved by Congress is a Cabinet-level organization that is part of the Executive Branch. If Joe decides to be a total shmuck, the President can decide that the Office has been a dismal failure and move to disband it. This would not be difficult to justify before Congress: The combination of FEMA, the FBI, the National Guard, the Coast Guard, ICE, etc., has proven to be little more than a welfare program for defense contractors, and a huge money sink–costing exponentially more than the combined total of its subsumed departments.  As the response during Katrina pointed up, administration of DHS was so unwieldy that a coordinated plan for each department had yet to be approved more than a year after its formation. The jurisdictional dick-waving between the members of the various departments virtually insures that there will never be enough cooperation among them to fundtion effectively–even in an emergency. The ranks of the administrative positions are filled with a redundancy of hacks with seniority, who can’t be fired without cause–which means that unless someone catches them snorting cocaine or swilling scotch at their desks more than once, they will continue to take 2-hour lunch breaks and half-hour coffee/pee breaks at public expense until they retire at full pay with medical benefits and COLA, or have a freakin’ coronary from eating 4-serving-sized microwave meals for lunch. </p>
<p>HoJoe’s days are numbered….</p>
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		<title>By: JayBrida</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/morans-for-mavrick-the-returnage/comment-page-1/#comment-22274</link>
		<dc:creator>JayBrida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And oooh-noooo: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Glenn Greenwald is cautiously optimistic about Holder too&lt;/a&gt;. Can you get more in the bag than that? Changes? Pfft.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You really are a hysteric aren’t you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And oooh-noooo: <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/" rel="nofollow"> Glenn Greenwald is cautiously optimistic about Holder too</a>. Can you get more in the bag than that? Changes? Pfft.</p>
<p>You really are a hysteric aren’t you?</p>
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		<title>By: JayBrida</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/morans-for-mavrick-the-returnage/comment-page-1/#comment-22270</link>
		<dc:creator>JayBrida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Moreover, I don’t know if a AG Holder is good or not. I’ve reserved my judgement, rather than frantically jumping to it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From what I know, his role in Marc Rich pardon is pretty shitty, although he’s also backpedaled from it and seems capable of shame. His stint as a corporate lawyer raises some red flags, but as Girodano points out: this is how the legal system works. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But his support for widespread civil rights and his oft-stated commitment to civil liberties (and his blanket condemnation of torture) seem to be VERY solid things for an Attorney General to have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And finally, it’s bizarre. I’ve been critical of you because you’ve been whining about things that HAVEN’T happened. Now that this seems to be happening, you don’t even make a case against it, except for an incredibly hysterical knee-jerk opposition to it underscoring the idea that you have nothing to say.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moreover, I don’t know if a AG Holder is good or not. I’ve reserved my judgement, rather than frantically jumping to it. </p>
<p>From what I know, his role in Marc Rich pardon is pretty shitty, although he’s also backpedaled from it and seems capable of shame. His stint as a corporate lawyer raises some red flags, but as Girodano points out: this is how the legal system works. </p>
<p>But his support for widespread civil rights and his oft-stated commitment to civil liberties (and his blanket condemnation of torture) seem to be VERY solid things for an Attorney General to have.</p>
<p>And finally, it’s bizarre. I’ve been critical of you because you’ve been whining about things that HAVEN’T happened. Now that this seems to be happening, you don’t even make a case against it, except for an incredibly hysterical knee-jerk opposition to it underscoring the idea that you have nothing to say.</p>
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		<title>By: JayBrida</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayBrida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Eric Holder.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah. What about him?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Those who counseled waiting until he “did” something before criticizing Obama are looking brighter by the millisecond.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what’s the criticism smart guy? Marc Rich? That was bad. This, taken from a speech he gave in 2004, is good:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The notion that the Department of Justice would in essence sanction the use of torture as part of the President’s plenary power over military operations is as wrong as it is shortsighted. This position flies in the face of the entire history of American law, helping to create a climate in which unnecessarily abusive conduct can somehow be considered legitimate.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;It also puts our own soldiers, the young men and young women who fight bravely for the United States today, and will again tomorrow, at risk of similar abuse should they be captured by the enemy on a now unknown foreign battlefield. What will the United States say about their treatment then? How will an American President seek to credibly invoke the protections of the Geneva Convention in the future? This memorandum and other policies are reflective of a politicized Justice Department that is no longer tethered to its traditional moorings.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WOW! He sounds AWFUL!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Or did this abortion of a nomination not “happen” yet? HAHAHAHA!!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, what’s your problem with it? Are we supposed to disagree with this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The solutions are contained within a new, dynamic, progressive movement that has the ability to inspire and motivate the people of this nation in the way that progressives have in the past. That ability exists in this room, and in the law schools, and in the courtrooms, and in the law offices around this country. It is our task to unlock, to unleash the creative energy needed to give life to this renewed movement. It is not enough for us to gather at annual meetings, to participate in panels, and to return to our communities, and be content to observe, or to passively criticize, the now dominant governing philosophy. &lt;/b&gt;?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean sell-outs like Al Girodano — who is smarter and farther left than halfassed whiners like you — said this: &lt;b&gt;And on that note, I opine: If the reports of Eric Holder as a possible Attorney General come true (and, again, we won’t really know until there is an official statement from Obama or his staff), I think that’s a fine choice to bring civil liberties and civil rights back into the legal system after so many years of exile. And it doesn’t matter to me a whit who he represented as an attorney because that’s also how the legal system should work.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Assholes.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another great rejoinder. If you think Holder is an ‘abortion’, maybe you should, you know, explain why.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Eric Holder.</p>
<p>Yeah. What about him?</p>
<p><i>Those who counseled waiting until he “did” something before criticizing Obama are looking brighter by the millisecond.</i></p>
<p>So what’s the criticism smart guy? Marc Rich? That was bad. This, taken from a speech he gave in 2004, is good:</p>
<p><b>The notion that the Department of Justice would in essence sanction the use of torture as part of the President’s plenary power over military operations is as wrong as it is shortsighted. This position flies in the face of the entire history of American law, helping to create a climate in which unnecessarily abusive conduct can somehow be considered legitimate.</b> </p>
<p><b>It also puts our own soldiers, the young men and young women who fight bravely for the United States today, and will again tomorrow, at risk of similar abuse should they be captured by the enemy on a now unknown foreign battlefield. What will the United States say about their treatment then? How will an American President seek to credibly invoke the protections of the Geneva Convention in the future? This memorandum and other policies are reflective of a politicized Justice Department that is no longer tethered to its traditional moorings.</b></p>
<p>WOW! He sounds AWFUL!  </p>
<p><i>Or did this abortion of a nomination not “happen” yet? HAHAHAHA!!!</i></p>
<p>Again, what’s your problem with it? Are we supposed to disagree with this:</p>
<p><b>The solutions are contained within a new, dynamic, progressive movement that has the ability to inspire and motivate the people of this nation in the way that progressives have in the past. That ability exists in this room, and in the law schools, and in the courtrooms, and in the law offices around this country. It is our task to unlock, to unleash the creative energy needed to give life to this renewed movement. It is not enough for us to gather at annual meetings, to participate in panels, and to return to our communities, and be content to observe, or to passively criticize, the now dominant governing philosophy. </b>?  </p>
<p>I mean sell-outs like Al Girodano — who is smarter and farther left than halfassed whiners like you — said this: <b>And on that note, I opine: If the reports of Eric Holder as a possible Attorney General come true (and, again, we won’t really know until there is an official statement from Obama or his staff), I think that’s a fine choice to bring civil liberties and civil rights back into the legal system after so many years of exile. And it doesn’t matter to me a whit who he represented as an attorney because that’s also how the legal system should work.</b></p>
<p><i>Assholes.</i></p>
<p>Another great rejoinder. If you think Holder is an ‘abortion’, maybe you should, you know, explain why.</p>
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		<title>By: catpainter</title>
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		<dc:creator>catpainter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks…I do remember the guy with the “moran” sign, now that you refreshed my memory.  There was so much going on during this past election, it was hard to keep it all straight.  Glad it’s over…glad it turned out the way it did!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, actually, it’s not totally over…Georgia and Minnesota still undecided.  And what’s up with Missouri, did that ever get resolved?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks…I do remember the guy with the “moran” sign, now that you refreshed my memory.  There was so much going on during this past election, it was hard to keep it all straight.  Glad it’s over…glad it turned out the way it did!!!!!</p>
<p>Well, actually, it’s not totally over…Georgia and Minnesota still undecided.  And what’s up with Missouri, did that ever get resolved?</p>
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		<title>By: OlderandWiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>OlderandWiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The ignorant always attract the ignorant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: SuefromCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuefromCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the things were were thinking about doing in our retiring years was to visit Alaska. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would I have a 50% chance of finding someone among the population who almost voted in a convicted felon as their Senator and elected a governor who chases witches who could figure out how to boil an egg or change our sheets?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things were were thinking about doing in our retiring years was to visit Alaska. </p>
<p>Would I have a 50% chance of finding someone among the population who almost voted in a convicted felon as their Senator and elected a governor who chases witches who could figure out how to boil an egg or change our sheets?</p>
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		<title>By: xpurg8d</title>
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		<dc:creator>xpurg8d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; guy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg" rel="nofollow">This</a> guy.</p>
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		<title>By: catpainter</title>
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		<dc:creator>catpainter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I played this game with the bunch of 20-30-something nurses with whom I work.  All but one are Republicans.  Firstly, they “all” thought we were in Iraq because “they” attacked us in New York and Washington.  Secondly, they knew “none” of the principle players in “their” party, either.  Let’s face it, most people are not very well informed regarding government or the people who govern.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also when did “moron” become “moran”?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played this game with the bunch of 20-30-something nurses with whom I work.  All but one are Republicans.  Firstly, they “all” thought we were in Iraq because “they” attacked us in New York and Washington.  Secondly, they knew “none” of the principle players in “their” party, either.  Let’s face it, most people are not very well informed regarding government or the people who govern.</p>
<p>Also when did “moron” become “moran”?</p>
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		<title>By: CalGeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>CalGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That Palin clip just keeps getting better with age. Hilarious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Palin clip just keeps getting better with age. Hilarious.</p>
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