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		<title>By: melior</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23879</link>
		<dc:creator>melior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Saletan had a proposal similar to this. The gist was: “OK, you guys give up Roe v. Wade now, and we’ll write some new laws later.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haha, that’s like that infomercial where they offer to send you a postage paid envelope. Then you just enclose your unused gold jewelry and mail it to them and they’ll mail you a check for a fair value. They promise!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Saletan had a proposal similar to this. The gist was: “OK, you guys give up Roe v. Wade now, and we’ll write some new laws later.”</p>
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<p>Haha, that’s like that infomercial where they offer to send you a postage paid envelope. Then you just enclose your unused gold jewelry and mail it to them and they’ll mail you a check for a fair value. They promise!</p>
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		<title>By: melior</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23878</link>
		<dc:creator>melior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s a middle ground compromise: Anyone who is pro-choice may have an abortion. Anyone who is anti-choice may not. (This should cut the number roughly in half.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See how easy that was? Now we can all agree to focus our time on more important things than embryos, like children.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a middle ground compromise: Anyone who is pro-choice may have an abortion. Anyone who is anti-choice may not. (This should cut the number roughly in half.)</p>
<p>See how easy that was? Now we can all agree to focus our time on more important things than embryos, like children.</p>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23823</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Once again, I fear the powers that be will influence Obama.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Messrs. Clinton and Bush took action on those two issues in the opening days of their administrations. It isn’t clear whether Mr. Obama will follow suit. He has suggested that he wants to find middle ground on abortion-related issues, and &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;some Democrats worry about the politics of making abortion policy one of his opening moves&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. (WHICH Democrats???)&lt;br /&gt;
……….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While many abortion-rights supporters would like to see Congress pass FOCA, their advocates in Washington have concluded that there aren’t enough votes in Congress and that it isn’t politically smart to push such a divisive measure. A coalition of nearly 60 liberal and women’s groups submitted a list of 15 requests for action in the Obama administration’s first 100 days, and FOCA isn’t on the list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122947155578512197.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/.....12197.html&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I’m beginning to wonder if we going to get ANYTHING out of this sweet talkin’ muhta?&lt;br /&gt;
He sure wanted wimmin to VOTE for him tho, didn’t he? Now it sounds like he’s all too willing to throw us under the bus.&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I fear the powers that be will influence Obama.</p>
<blockquote><p>Messrs. Clinton and Bush took action on those two issues in the opening days of their administrations. It isn’t clear whether Mr. Obama will follow suit. He has suggested that he wants to find middle ground on abortion-related issues, and <em><strong>some Democrats worry about the politics of making abortion policy one of his opening moves</strong></em>. (WHICH Democrats???)<br />
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<p>While many abortion-rights supporters would like to see Congress pass FOCA, their advocates in Washington have concluded that there aren’t enough votes in Congress and that it isn’t politically smart to push such a divisive measure. A coalition of nearly 60 liberal and women’s groups submitted a list of 15 requests for action in the Obama administration’s first 100 days, and FOCA isn’t on the list.<br /><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122947155578512197.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/&#8230;..12197.html</a>
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<p>I’m beginning to wonder if we going to get ANYTHING out of this sweet talkin’ muhta?<br />
He sure wanted wimmin to VOTE for him tho, didn’t he? Now it sounds like he’s all too willing to throw us under the bus.<strong></strong></p>
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		<title>By: AnneLaurie</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23802</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneLaurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;22 weeks is pushing things quite a bit. My youngest grandson was born around 7 months (28 weeks) and barely made it through.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Latest data I remember, infants delivered prior to 26 weeks have a 75% percent rate of permanent disability, ranging from “mild” intellectual, sensory &amp; motor problems on up.  And, of course, our glorious American healthcare system will bankrupt the “lucky” parent(s) of a preemie who ends up blind, deaf, spastic, tube-fed, voiding into a bag, and with a mental capacity rated as “less than the average 6-month-old”.  There was an article in the Boston Globe recently mentioning that some obstreticians have started debating whether “rescuing” fetuses so underdeveloped should be a priority, if “surviving” means 30 or 40 years as, well, Teri Shiavo.  But, hey — those Very Special Babies will never lie, cheat, have unsanctioned sex (at least by their own choice), or vote for Barak Obama!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>22 weeks is pushing things quite a bit. My youngest grandson was born around 7 months (28 weeks) and barely made it through.</p>
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<p>Latest data I remember, infants delivered prior to 26 weeks have a 75% percent rate of permanent disability, ranging from “mild” intellectual, sensory &amp; motor problems on up.  And, of course, our glorious American healthcare system will bankrupt the “lucky” parent(s) of a preemie who ends up blind, deaf, spastic, tube-fed, voiding into a bag, and with a mental capacity rated as “less than the average 6-month-old”.  There was an article in the Boston Globe recently mentioning that some obstreticians have started debating whether “rescuing” fetuses so underdeveloped should be a priority, if “surviving” means 30 or 40 years as, well, Teri Shiavo.  But, hey — those Very Special Babies will never lie, cheat, have unsanctioned sex (at least by their own choice), or vote for Barak Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: KillSmiley</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23800</link>
		<dc:creator>KillSmiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Saletan had a proposal similar to this. The gist was: “OK, you guys give up Roe v. Wade now, and we’ll write some new laws later.” One blogger pointed out that this is the equivalent of saying “OK, you have a house, give it to me and I’ll try to find a nice cardboard box for you to stay in.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have to love these people and their fake sincerity. Yeah, I’m sure you’re so concerned about the future of the pro-choice movement, guys.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saletan had a proposal similar to this. The gist was: “OK, you guys give up Roe v. Wade now, and we’ll write some new laws later.” One blogger pointed out that this is the equivalent of saying “OK, you have a house, give it to me and I’ll try to find a nice cardboard box for you to stay in.”</p>
<p>You have to love these people and their fake sincerity. Yeah, I’m sure you’re so concerned about the future of the pro-choice movement, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: pseudonymousinnc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pseudonymousinnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s the compromise, ‘hat: you don’t have to shut the fuck up, but we don’t have to give a flying fuck what you say.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s the compromise, ‘hat: you don’t have to shut the fuck up, but we don’t have to give a flying fuck what you say.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDick</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23798</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Time for me to head out.  Have to take a friend to the doctor early tomorrow.  He must face the doom of all men over 50.  Take care all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for me to head out.  Have to take a friend to the doctor early tomorrow.  He must face the doom of all men over 50.  Take care all.</p>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23797</link>
		<dc:creator>tw3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, but life is sacred!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but life is sacred!</p>
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		<title>By: neurophius</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23796</link>
		<dc:creator>neurophius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;they are probably also opposed to adoption by gays and lesbians, which results in more needy children remaining in inadequate foster care conditions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are probably also opposed to adoption by gays and lesbians, which results in more needy children remaining in inadequate foster care conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/so-we-beat-on-wanks-against-the-current/#comment-23795</link>
		<dc:creator>tw3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, logic! That’s enough to explode a fundamentalist’s head at your beck and call.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, logic! That’s enough to explode a fundamentalist’s head at your beck and call.</p>
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