Pathetic fat POS should STFU. Happy Holidays.

You’ve got to hand it to Jonah, he may have finally proved that conservatives are not powerful, evil fascists. He has demonstrated they are actually whiny little bitches with bad hair, acne, and man boobs.

I do enjoy his whining diatribes, even if they’re too dull to read from beginning to end. He’s so offended that someone brings up how absurd he is (”Hitler was a vegetarians, vegetarians are fascist”). Example:

For example, he says that my argument amounts to saying that people who like the White Album are serial killers because Charles Manson liked the White Album. This is more sand-pounding nonsense. Leading liberal writers and intellectuals scrub conservative DNA for the slightest hint of fascist chromosomes, but my pointing out that some of the core fashions of the liberal left have roots in fascistic thought is an exercise in futility?

Yes. Yes it is. But only because you’re an pathetic waste of oxygen.

I can just imagine Goldberg’s defense upon being accused of goatfucking:

Some people call me a goatfucker, but that’s just absurd. Sure, I like goats, but calling me that is just absurd. Just because every once in a while, I find a nice goat, strip down, oil up, and put on Barry White does not make me a goatfucker. Sure, I’ll put my penis in it’s anus, repeatedly, but that doesn’t mean anything. Did I mention that my critics could be goatfuckers, too?

Can we just stop being fascists and go back to being socialists? It would actually be good for Jonah in the long run:

He who does not work, neither shall he eat.

Call it the Karl Marx diet.

Meanwhile, it is not true that most people are aware of American progressives’ fondness for Fascist Italy. Tomasky’s sleight-of-hand on this point merits illumination.

It’s all we ever talk about. I’ve lost track of the blog posts here, and on other liberal blogs, praising Fascist Italy in general and Benito Mussolini in particular.
We’re all Arditi now and only Jonah was canny enough to figure that out.
Duce! Duce! Duce!

It’s all we ever talk about. I’ve lost track of the blog posts here, and on other liberal blogs, praising Fascist Italy in general and Benito Mussolini in particular.

Now that you mention it, I do recall some people having a certain fondness for the fascist regime in Spain. I don’t think it was bloggers though…it was in some periodical or another. And I’m not 100% sure it was a left-wing publication, either. Now what was it called…eh, guess it’s not important.

Most modern dictionaries have diminutized the core principle of fascism from its definition. Fascism describes intimate collusion between a government and big business. This is the crux of the definition of the word and the element that is most harmful to the common good, ie: liberalism.

Since the Corporatocracy decided that this important aspect of the definition of Fascism be removed from dictionaries, The Doughy Pantload decided that he could take the ball and run with it. (mental image intended.)

Seems wise for Jonah to ignore negative reviews instead of calling further attention to them. Goldberg will take any attention he can get. Maybe another idiot will buy a book and an angel will get its wings.

TNR can expect flaming bags of dog poop on their doorstep

Jonah is writing for TNR now? I thought it was bad enough that he had gigs at NRO and LAT.

The Doughy Pantload decided that he could take the ball and run with it.

That’s not an actual ball, that’s and elephant turd.

Shorter Doughy;

I smart. My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

… shameful, dishonest and just plain stupid.

Look in the mirror, fat boy.

Every so often, I fall for the notion that conservatives like Buckley and his buddies were actual intellectuals, and their ideas had actual intellectual underpinnings. And then I remember Westbrook Pegler.

God knows where Goldberg would be without the mere idea of this book. He promoted it for well over a year and stoutly defended his lateness and bitterly feuded with someone (else) who mocked him – from Slate, I think . The reviews can’t be that good if he leeched onto an emailer who were obviously mocking him and took them seriously and posted their satirical praise.

Now he’s got to pout, hold his breath till he turns blue and so on, months after the original review. When he gonna go all Zell Miller on Tomasky and TNR’s ass and challenge them to a duel?

And one of the best parts, National Review still has a link up for “Liberal Fascism” under Blog Row. Anything to keep Lucianne’s boy thinking he’s somebody…

“So, for those who care, here’s my response.”

I didn’t click the link. I don’t care. Not one fucking bit.

Quoted by Sarah Palin in her acceptance speech!

For amusement purposes only, Englebert has returned from his Xmas break with another howler:

“Steve Clemons’ proposed solution to the Caroline problem is to have Obama send her to London as the Ambassador to the Court of St. James. That’d be fine with me, I guess. Though I don’t think it’s as exciting an idea as he does. I do think it’s odd though that Clemons spends so much of his post rehearsing the usual anti-Bush throat clearing while completely ignoring a point that’s actually relevant: The media would be obliged to revisit her grandfather’s stint in the same job. And that might be embarrassing to the Kennedy clan. It certainly should be.

Yes, Jonah is the gift that keeps on giving.

shameful, dishonest and just plain stupid is an apt description of Jonah.

I thought I’d read all the various ham-fisted non-sequiturs Loadpants had trotted out for his “book”, but I guess somehow I’d missed the 3000-word elephant in the room. All that column space, and Our Boy still not only manages not to refute Tomasky in any substantial way, he actually manages to undermine his own premise.

This is probably the heart — or at least the taint — of the matter:

In other words, if I’m not saying liberals really are, literally, Nazis — something many of Tomasky’s “dopey” peers do, in fact, say about conservatives — then why bother even pointing out that modern liberalism shares so much with fascism?

I don’t recall any of Tomasky’s “dopey” peers writing ridiculous vanity-press “books” attempting to draw broad connections between “conservatism” (which no longer exists in its classical form any more than “liberalism” does) and “fascism” or “nazism”.

On the other hand, Doughboy has kept this damned thing rolling for quite some time — first with a year of pimping and primping as he scrambled to meet ever-adjusted deadlines, then with intermittent spurts of incoherent Jonanism meant to rebut critics and bolster his “argument”, but generally having the opposite effect.

And he slapped a smiley-face with a Hitler mustache on the cover, in an attempt to be cute about it, while claiming that he doesn’t literally mean “liberals” are “nazis”, to the extent that he can apprehend either term. No? Then don’t use nazi imagery to evoke your stupid argument, fuckface. Not too complicated.

The limits of Goldberg’s perception are probably best shown in his habitual efforts to draw Hillary Clinton — a shameless, cynical opportunist if ever one were factory-farmed — as a perfidious ideologue. He’s too much of an insufferable twat to get that she, like Mitt Romney and plenty of others, are sufficiently empty (in the truly ideological sense) that, as someone said during the campaign about Romney, if she thought she’d win by running as a pirate, she’d have run as a goddamned pirate.

At least Goldberg’s ability to do actual harm, in his role as BMOC of the NRO clown college, is blessedly limited. He and Potsie Pornmumu and Jughead Nardlicker and the rest of ‘em are welcome to short-sheet each other on their intellectual twin bed until their audience of self-selecting bozos run out of money to donate.

Season’s Beatings, chump!

I’d guess that this whole sorry saga began with Jonah getting wind of Chris Hedges’s book _American Fascists_ (subtitled “The Christian Right and the War on America”), and writing “I know you are, but what am I, times infinity, no backsies, neener neener,” then trying to determine just how few words he’d have to add to that to get credit for writing a “book.”

I wrote a book once and it got some good reviews, some middling, a couple of bad ones. But did I write a tearful response to the bad ones, claiming they were all against me? No, because that would have been just plain stupid. Especially if I were claiming that my “friends” at the publication in question were “embarrassed” by the bad review that I got. I’d tell Jonah to suck it up, except he obviously already has sucked up (or sucked up to) everything he ever got within breathing distance of.

The limits of Goldberg’s perception are probably best shown in his habitual efforts to draw Hillary Clinton — a shameless, cynical opportunist if ever one were factory-farmed — as a perfidious ideologue. He’s too much of an insufferable twat to get that she, like Mitt Romney and plenty of others, are sufficiently empty (in the truly ideological sense) that, as someone said during the campaign about Romney, if she thought she’d win by running as a pirate, she’d have run as a goddamned pirate.

Brilliant observation. Well put.

Jeebuz, I just hate it when TBogg’s commenters ‘beat’ around the Bush goat.

Jonah Goldberg, like Dracula, is allergic to mirrors and the harsh light of day.

Blame it on Barry White…!

“Meanwhile, it is not true that most people are aware of American progressives’ fondness for Fascist Italy.”

And here is a case that the majority is correct…they are NOT aware of such a fondness. Because it doesn’t exist. The obsession for invading Arab and North African countries (Libya/Somalia/Ethiopia) is paralleled with some other leader on the other side of the ideological spectrum (Iraq/Iran/Lebanon/Somalia). Funny how that is Jonah!

Eli up at the mothership.

Goldberg deserve what he gets, but speaking as a fat person, that graphic attached to the article.. really doesn’t help, guys.

Doughy Pantload pinches a loaf.

Pictures at eleven.

;~P

If you like this post, please Digg it.

What is it with you Tbogg readers that you hardly ever Digg?

Oh for god’s sake, can we drop the fat comments? Goldberg’s an idiot because he spouts nonsensical opinions without valid evidence that are outright contradicted by reality, not because he’s fat. Can’t we find ways to point out what a blithering moron he is without resorting to physical appearance and that horrendous Fail graphic accompanying this post? I don’t think I have much sensitivity about weight issues, but I fucking cringed when I saw that image. Jeez.

Honestly, when I saw the picture my first thought was along the lines of “that kid is awkwardly mishandling the ball that is being passed to him, in the way that Jonah manages to turn the responses to his critics into three paragraphs of fart noises and lame excuses”, and not “that kid is fat, like how Jonah is fat”.

And then I actually read it and see the “fatty” part and I think I’ll just blame my assistants and anyway I’m going to go out for burritos with all these freshmen and I have, like, two colds and I’ll get my readers to find the answer so frrrrppt.

I’ve always hated how people will adulterate a perfectly good picture with useless words.

Brilliant.

I mean Brilliant.

Oh yes, I can see by the responses thus far that the fringe left is exactly like the fringe right. Small minded, petty, and intolerant. I mean seriously, posting a picture of a fat kid… how old are you anyway?

Say what you will about the skinfull of hydrogenated oil, Doughy is my favorite punching bag. I simply love the ambitious, lazy, profoundly stupid Oedipal wreck.

Thanks, hackworth. The obsession wingtard pundits have always had for the Clintons is just bizarre, because their rationales are so baseless. I never thought much of the Clintons either, but only because they’ve never not been full of shit (though eight years of Fredo ‘n’ friends has certainly given me grudging respect for the Clenis).

But Goldberg and the rest of them all fall from that Richard Cougar Melloncamp Scaife tree, all these baroque conspiracies in play to turn ‘murka into a collectivist utopia, an enormous Jonestown, O Fortuna the new national anthem. You’d think they’d recognize simple grasping opportunism and unblinking horseshit staring them plain in the face, though they never did quite figure that out about La Palin.

Pantload is an endless source of fun, I’ll give him that. Everything he writes is a virtual wedgie waiting to happen. I’ve never seen someone come up with so many ways to acknowledge that they’re too ignorant and lazy to write comprehensively on an issue, and yet weigh in on the subject anyway. It’s a real gift, and he oughta consider giving it back. “I don’t know much about this, but….“, and “I haven’t had time to read up on this, but….“, etc. Hilarious. Motherfucker needs a day-planner something fierce.

I line up more with moondancer than VORE on this one –

the ambitious, lazy, profoundly stupid Oedipal wreck.

the kid in the picture isn’t even very fat, just inept (if you grimace the right way, you’ll show a temporary bonus chin, too); TBogg coulda picked a much flabbier candidate if fattitude rather than attitude were the main point.

On the other hand, the whole doughy pantload thing is harder to spin.

Small minded, petty, and intolerant. [emphasis added]

I don’t think that last word means what you think it means, unless there’s some sort of law in play to prohibit morons from writing newspaper columns. In which case that sound you just heard was the staffs of NRO and ClownHall all simultaneously looking over their shoulders. Take heed, Dennis Prager!

I, for one, would miss breaking the occasional nut on Pantload’s generous scoops of mouth-watering stupid. Just as Hannity won’t be the same without Colmes, we’d eventually miss Goldberg’s weekly tilts at the windmill.

Speaking as a rather portly and big-boned man, I got no problems at all with the fat jokes.

I appreciate the mockery of Pantload as much as anyone. What I want to know is: where the hell did you get that picture of me from seventh grade gym class?

My point is the responses are the same as you would find from the fringe right – stupid, moron, fatty, etc. Yes intolerant of another opinion because that is what it is in the end: an opinion. These type of comments do not distinguish you from them, in fact you are the same, just with a different point of view.

…in fact you are the same, just with a different point of view.
That is one of the most profoundly self-contradictory statements it’s ever been my pleasure to read.

Nothing self-contradictory about it… you think you are absolutely right and they think they are absolutely right and you both resort to the same tactics to prove your points (different as they may be).

We all agree, I think, that Jonah is stupid. That’s an opinion based on tons (no pun intended) of evidence. As for the rest, if occasionally we stoop to sneering at his weight — as evidence of his mental and moral laziness, also supported by the evidence of reading his output — so what? He’s calling us Nazis — you really think that calling him fat is the equivalent of that? Please take your “concern” elsewhere.

Nothing self-contradictory about it…
When dazzling logic is combined with keen insight, who am I to argue.

VORE, we’re mocking a moron. If you expect us to do that in a respectful tone, you are destined to be disappointed. This is tbogg’s place, where we come for the occasional picture (sometimes it’s just mental) of the lithsome and voluptious mrs tbogg and stay for the USDA prime snark (beefcake and beef, if you will). Why would we respond to this idiot with a thoughtful, reasoned response, when mockery is much more apt.

sanandreasfaults, you had me going, I actually like brilliant as mockery.

beefcake? My apologies to mrs tbogg. brain no worky…

TNR can expect flaming bags of dogshit on their front porch, assuming teh Pantload can get a Corner reader to collect dogshit for him, since he is too lazy busy with finding someone to do his “research” for him. And his putting match to paperbag shall not be done like Dinesh’s latest whoopee cushion or any of Ann Coulter’s window-soapings. It won’t be what the Amazon description says or what the Economist claims it is. Or what Frank Rich imagines it is. It is a very serious, thoughtful flaming bag of dogshit that has never been set alight in such detail or with such care — indeed dogshit is central to his point.

I admit to having a soft spot for the fat kid who gets picked last and picked on the rest of the time.

My point is the responses are the same as you would find from the fringe right – stupid, moron, fatty, etc.
I suppose it depends on one’s idea of “fringe”, but the real “fringe” right (which, fwiw, does not include a rent-a-hack like Goldberg) indulges in much worse than fat jokes. T-shirts that suggest hanging journalists, syndicated columns openly lamenting that the 9/11 hijackers bypassed the Times building, slavering for the next war without having any real skin in the game, frequent quasi-racist sentiments, etc.

There is a devotion to violent imagery — no matter how polemic — that does not exist in any measurable quantity on the “fringe” “left”, to the extent that either of those things mean what you think they mean. The two “sides” are neither quantitatively nor qualitatively equal. And calling a lazy fat guy lazy and fat is a far cry from Jonah’s chickenshit method of imputing nazism to “liberals”, then lamely insisting that that wasn’t what he really meant. Fuck that shit. I’d have more respect for the guy if he just owned it.

Yes intolerant of another opinion because that is what it is in the end: an opinion.
And all we’re doing is making fun of it, and him. I haven’t seen anyone suggest boycotting or banning or violently repudiating Goldberg’s fatuous nonsense. Again, you seem to have an interesting definition of that word.

These type of comments do not distinguish you from them, in fact you are the same, just with a different point of view.
Bullshit. Lots of people have written comprehensive, point-by-point refutations of Goldberg’s vanity project and opinion columns. The fact that many of those pieces have been leavened with reworked momma jokes is irrelevant. Goldberg is peddling his opinions as facts, and while he is certainly entitled to his own ridiculous opinions, he is not entitled to his own sets of facts.

Goldberg’s arguments have been entirely in bad faith, and even when confronted with more tonally neutral refutations, such as Dave Neiwert’s, he has been petulant and condescending — and most importantly, incorrect — in his rebuttals. Your “Leave Jonah ALONE!” concern trolling could hardly be wasted on a more undeserving goofball.

boggs, how about posting that old “flowers for jonah” essay from years ago? it was the funniest thing i have read on the net.

OOh, that sounds fun! Please, a repost of “flowers for Jonah”!11!!!11!!

It’s still pretty freaking funny.

Monday morning and I’m greeted by this:

“and saw Rich and Kathrin naked.”

And, yes, it is pretty freaking funny.

My point is the responses are the same as you would find from the fringe right – stupid, moron, fatty, etc.

Limbaugh is fringe? Coulter is fringe? Hannity is fringe?

“fringe” implies a minority. We’re not talking fringe here, we’re talking RNC candidates and talk radio millionaires.

Loadpants will defend his dopus magnum for the next ten years, given that it’ll take him at least that long to write the next one.