For going on two weeks now, blogs have been giving more attention to twice-divorced moralizing douchebag Dennis Prager than he received from the two ex-Mrs. Pragers who were finally able to quit pretending to be lesbians once the final papers were signed and he was out of earshot.
I’m not sure what I found more surprising: that a jerk-off didn’t know how to jerk off, or that someone could have so little self-regard that he would use his platform (and granted it’s Townhall so it’s like writing for doorknobs) to air his pathetic and degrading sexual history.
Besides, that’s Jamie Kirchick’s schtick.
For Prager, who knows a lot about what women don’t want (and he has the divorces to prove it) sex is part of a social barter system: beads for a blow-job, bangles for a finger bang, and baubles for the Reverse Scooby Snack. And if women aren’t in the mood to drop and "Give Me Twenty", well, there is obviously something wrong with them and they didn’t read the fine print on their wedding license. This also means that they have a better than average chance than most vagina-Americans of (briefly) becoming Mrs. Prager III and starring in SexHell: The Analing.
Most normal people (meaning you and you… but probably not you) have found Prager’s arguments to be mildly repulsive if not downright squicky, but there is one in every crowd which brings us to Amy Alkon, home security consultant and self-described Advice Goddess who gives Prager two thumbs up (the butt) for his observations :
This is just Prager’s rather long-winded restatement of what I said in my Advice Goddess column, "A Tale Of Naked Whoa," from May of 2007:
Relationships are filled with little tasks that don’t exactly bring a person to screaming orgasm. A man, for example, doesn’t wake up in the middle of the night with some primal longing to bring his girlfriend flowers, rehang her back door, or clean the trap in her sink. Like sex, these things can be expressions of love, but if a guy’s going to lock himself in the bathroom, it’s not going to be with "Bob Vila’s Complete Guide to Remodeling Your Home."
So, couldn’t putting out when you aren’t in the mood be seen as just another expression of love? Joan Sewell, author of I’d Rather Eat Chocolate: Learning to Love My Low Libido, told The Atlantic Monthly, "If you have sex when you don’t desire it, physically desire it, you are going to feel used." Well, okay, perhaps. But, if a guy rotates a woman’s tires when he doesn’t desire it, physically desire it, does he feel used?
I’m sure it is just a little bit of Kismet that both Alkon and Prager both live in LA, so what is to keep these two crazy kids from getting together and trading "tire rotations" (is that what the kids are calling it these days?) for blow jobs and hummers and motorboats (oh my!)?
I say that they should throw caution to the wind and go for it. And afterwards, they should keep it to themselves.
We’re trying to eat here….
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they should throw caution to the wind and go for it.
with any luck he’ll have a heart attack while getting the jack
I luvs ya, TBogg…but I just threw up in my mouth. Thank Dog I can now make haste to Thursday Night Basset Blogging for a palate cleansing!
Amy’s a male-identified libertarian douchebag so it’s not surprising she’s sympathetic with the Pragmonster. Still, I bet she’d charge him a pretty penny for a blow job. (She’s got rent to pay.)
And if he married her she’d make him sign a pre-nup.
Oh dear sweet inflatable transexual Jeebus. If I were a Ms Prageer, I would have cut the sucker off and shoved it up his ass.
Love those squirrelly moralists who tsk-tsk all the time… “An sexual expression of lust is hideous and offensive to REAL people of faith, and intercourse should be saved after holy matrimony between a man and a woman (ONLY! Stop that!) and cherished as a divine gift given directly from God..and it’s a whole like like nasty work, when you get right down to it, but that’s tough. For the women, we mean. So it’s God-given and beautiful…and a lot like rotating someone’s tires. “
Soulless little buggers, aren’t they?
With Prager’s insight into the world of sex as a medium of exchange, I think we can now state with much confidence about what exactly Prager and his ilk have to do in exchange for their wingnut welfare.
Who exactly would be willing to pay Prager for such services is beyond me though.
Shit, as soon as she wakes up I’m so asking Mrs. Thingwarbler if I can rotate her tires for her… I’ll probably get the nonplussed “whatever” stare that she’s learned from my 10-year old, but at least I’ve tried and according to Love Guru Prager that means I’m entitled to get some real soon, right? Right?
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Never mind, I don’t want to know…
When I rotate my wife’s tires, I just pick up the lug wrench and think of England. I’m a better man for doing my duty, no matter how unpleasant. And my thanks to the Advice Goddess for clarifying the relationship between human intimacy and automotive maintenance.
Wait a minute. Mrs Souse has an appointment with Mr Randool, the mechanic, to get the tires on her Honda rotated. Should I be concerned?
Ah, Zen and the Art of Prostitution. Its a natural.
aimai
Shorter Prager:
Women are whores and my ass is broke.
Sounds like Amy is making a play to be Mrs. Prager IV.
if a guy rotates a woman’s tires when he doesn’t desire it, physically desire it, does he feel used?
I have to say, I’ve never physically desired to rotate tires, even my own. Of all the idiotic analogies she might have invented, this one is just plain bizarre. These people are freaks.
Prager’s ex-wives are clearly selfish and self-centered. What’s the harm in the occasional six or eight seconds of discomfort and embarrassment?
OTOH, it takes a conservative to feel that they’re unconditionally owed sex and a libertarian to equate it with maintenance.
Has anyone checked out Prager’s columns over the past year? In context, this is even worse. You see, two months ago, Prager wrote a column about breastfeeding which was every bit as stupid as this. He took the notion that breast milk is good for babies, checked it in his gut and decided that it’s not true. It’s perplexing to me that someone would author an anti-breastfeeding column (not anti-breastfeeding in public, mind you, but breastfeeding in general) out of nowhere, though maybe that was the start of a pattern.
Put those three columns together in your head. Apparently, Dennis feels that women should have their bodies constantly available to pleasure their husbands, but not to sustain their own children. Combine that with his insistence that sex is of equal importance to caring for one’s family and we discover that Prager’s perspective on fatherhood is every bit as twisted as his views on marriage. I can just picture it: a young mother goes to attend to her infant son, who is mewling, flailing and pursing his lips. When she picks him up, Dennis enters the room, where he begins mewling, flailing and pursing his lips.
If anyone could make one of the joes down at the tire place feel used after what would be a standard commercial transaction with anyone else, it would be Amy Alkon, who is the sort of person who delights in tattling to the employers of commenters whom she disagrees with.
Castration would solve a lot of problems for Prager. Alien interpretations of love relationships do seem to fit nicely with the rest of social conservatism.
http://www.urbandictionary.com…..ooby+Snack
Reverse Scooby Snack isn’t defined yet.
These kids should get together. It would be crazy, each covered in a sheet with a hole cut out for their naughty parts, maybe NPR’s “Car Talk” playing in the background…talk about two minutes of the hottest conservative love making this side of stall number two at the Minneapolis airport!
If Prager starts extolling on the virtues of shit moats, I think we’ll have our answer on the hook-up.
“Reverse Scooby Snack?” Hmmmm, apparently my education is lacking. I’ve got some catching up to do.
The there’s the explanation for all this bullshizzle.
Heh, heh. Well said.
So if this unholy union ever actually happens, will Amy become preggers, or would that be Praggers?
Truly, your prose is art!
I remember hearing Prager on the radio, years ago, talking about how the love between a husband and wife is much more genuine than that between a parent and child. Ostensibly because one chooses their spouse and has the progeny thrust upon them… suffice to say, not just bullshit, but how does that make his kids feel now that he’s kicked to spouses (who rank higher than the they do) to the curb.
The man scores a 0 on every likert self-awareness scale.
I have reconsidered my last statement. The man is aware of nothing but himself…
Excellent, and really, really funny.
moondancer:
Amy too!
Urban dictionary defines “scooby snacks” as hash or grass brownies, the ashes or pieces of marijuana that you inhale into your mouth while smoking a pipe without a screen, or a cat licking its own privates. May I suggest that a reverse scooby snack is someone licking a cat’s privates for her/him.
OK, THIS is what Prager needs to keep the little woman purring. How could she resist:
http://failblog.org/2009/01/02/commercial-fail/
Digg it!
who are all these people?
I would just like to say, um, ewwwwww!
‘Squicky’, another one to add to the Urban lexicon…!
TBogg, I suspect that any minute now you’ll receive a communique similar to the following.
I guess I mean who are all of YOU people?
Does that remind you of the GA Tech joke about its dog Pug?
or ON consenting adults
There is a joke about Georgia’s dog UGA told by Lewis Grizzard (rip)
It wasn’t my fault, I thought they were hitchhikers…
Do you suppose it is the same one;)?
Leroy and Stanley are at a Georgia football game. There are the usual 90,000 screaming Dawg fans there and the team, led by UGA the Bulldog, run out on the field. The team runs to the bench and UGA squats down on the 50 yard line and goes to lickin himself on the nuts. Leroy looks at Stanley and says “Dang, I wish I could do that”! Stanley looks at Leroy and say
Well, the joke about the Tech dog here in Athens is that it runs out on the field whenever Tech scores a touchdown. No one has ever seen the dog.
and says “HE would BITE YOU.” Yep, same one…had no idea it could actually have a place right here…thank you very much..
I picked up a hitchiker coming back from Turkey Run in 1971. He had a leech on his leg!
Could be a sermon topic there…:-)
What a sucker…
Yea, that was Grizzard
o note that Lewis Grizzard was a graduate of the University of Georgia may seem a bit like noting that the sky is blue. For the benefit of the uninitiated however, it must be said here. Bulldog to the bone, he later pulled off one of the great feats in syndicated newspaper history – that of publishing an almost entirely empty column. It was the day after his beloved alma mater had lost a match-up with rival Georgia Tech. Lewis wrote one sentence above several columns of stark white. The sentence read, “Frankly, I don’t want to talk about it.” His ashes (half of them, anyway) were, in accordance with his fondest wishes, scattered over the fifty-yard line at UGA’s Sanford Stadium. Lewis’ UGA jokes, both at his own school’s expense and at their rivals’, were among his fans’ favorites. They recited them by heart on his concert tours, waiting for the punch lines, ready to laugh yet again. “Earl,” they would mouth silently as Lewis hit the pause perfectly…”that dog would BITE you-u-u-!!” Lewis was like that- like family; like a funny uncle or brother. You always laughed and you always asked for the old stories one more time. Lewis obliged. “I’m Bulldog born” he’d say, “Bulldog bred, and when I die I’ll be- by-God Bulldog dead!” He once said that while in between marriages, he had considered placing a classified personal ad seeking a UGA coed with whom he could attend the games because, “She would not think that getting down on one’s knees and barking at a Clemson fan was odd behavior.”
So what has everyone been doing on this fine Friday night?
Guess it was Earl not Leroy
Watching Alabama get their asses kicked by Utah!
…and would you believe it, that leech looked exactly like Dick Cheney!
There may be a god
Thank God for Grizzard… The topic maybe would be “Do you know It can be so Powerful in Print?” as she laughed herself silly. Or, “Still Great after the 3rd Time.”
but he didn’t suck as much!
Boy shoulda layed off the hooch
Prager should find out who the heck all those Viagra users are having sex with.
So funny to me also is that I had no idea that joke had an actual author? Who could have known?
being (somewhat unexpectedly and unpreparedly) exposed to the unique
lore and culture, apparently, of the University of Georgia..
I you’d lived around here for 25 years it would be easy. Not to mention that I go to all the games.
Or perhaps the complete and total lack of inhibition in the bulldog. I’ll never look at a 50-yard line the same again.
While I had not thought of that joke for a few years, you can see that it is truly unforgettable. Thanks for the reminder.
culture, ha! I am the only one of all my leftie, artsy fartsy friends that goes anywhere near UGA football games. This town is heavily into the arts, especially music. . .you know like REM, B-52’s, of Montreal, Widespread Panic. . .
And I never look at the endzone without seeing the Chief.
Or bulldogs either, I would guess. And they are so ugly..(I better stop
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check it out
UGLY! Obviously you missed him trying to bite Auburn receiver about 15 years ago?
Take it easy ya’ll.
How do you do it?
Oh, dear. I did not think it was possible to descend from a discussion fo Dennis Prager’s sex life, but football???
Ya, you too. Think I’ll call it a night. Have a splendid evening, everyone.
My days are pretty boring….. eat, drink, watch stupid TeeVee….. take a nap….. eat, drink and play on the internet……
Getting stronger everyday….. had my follow CT’s last Tuesday and will see the doctor Monday afternoon……. will find out if the interlukin is working….
Tonight Elmore and I went out to dinner to our favorite Italian restaurant and got stuffed….. I’ve lost a total of 17lbs since the start of treatment….. without trying…..
That’s my fault……trying to live vicariously and asked what everyone was doing tonight…..
Dave Letterman…has Bin Laden bidding for the Ill. Senate seat. what a night.
Well, in my case, trying to live vicariously.
I wish you good health and strength, katymine
Ditto. Positive, healing thoughts going your way.
Here’s to a good report…I hope you are feeling better soon.
I’m heading off to bed…. goodnight anyone…… sweet dreams and play nice for late late nite….
Aloha, Katy! Healing prayers to ya…! *g*
where did everyone go?
the top post, and no comments for 30 minutes?
is this thing on?
maybe amy will wed dennis and they can run down this concept to their hearts’ content.
are we having technical difficulties?
there must be a party going on somewhere…
still dunno what Reverse Scooby Snacks are…TBogg is such a tease!
gone to late late
How weird… I thought that name sounded familiar.
I replied to Amy Alkon on consumerist blog a few days ago (see here).
She was trying to stir up some anti-Muslim hate by referring to jihadwatch.org which reported 12 percent of Canadian Muslims were in favor of terrorism against Canada.
I went to that website and was disgusted at the comments from those insanely racist freaks.
But… that’s just worth noting what kind of websites Amy Alkon reads up on.
any husband whose skills are so low that he’s inspiring the ‘I’m not in the mood’ brush-off is clearly a failure at the human sexual art form, which is to say he is clearly a republican, a synonym for failure in every non-destructive human endeavor, not the least of which is human sexual pleasure.
All this righteous indignation is pretty hilarious. Prager and his ilk deserve condemnation for all sorts of things, but not for pointing out that marriage involves sacrifice and compromise in all kinds of ways, including in bed. I suspect that most of those that object to his message are not married or have not been married very long. There is nothing wrong with doing things to please your spouse even if that thing may not be at the top of your list. This is called the real world.
Feel free to piss off.
Did anyone actually read Prager’s piece before snarking? (And geez, I can’t believe that I find myself defending Prager). Here’s the question: is sex part of the “job” of marriage? Is there “duty”, not just sexual, in marriage? I say yes, on both the man and woman’s part. But those are hated words in our postmodern world. We’re much more “comfortable” with doing what feels right, with decisions based on mood. This is the core of Prager’s column, and while he’s clumsy as always in his writing, I agree with the premise. I’ve been amazed at the clueless commenting about this article, esp. over at GOS and Pandagon. As tballou pointed out above, I’ll guess that the most vitriol comes from those who are not married, or married but a short time.
I read Prager’s piece and I’ve been married to the same woman for thirty-one years this April.
Duty? We’re raising an autistic child. We’ve been raising him for twent-four years.
Clueless? Look in the mirror.
I pumped and she jacked. After that, we changed the tire.
Enjoy.
Work on your reading skills, Dennis. I was replying to #93, not you. Or piss off. Either one.
Approaching our silver anniversary, the manly Mr. Biscuitbarrel and I agree that Dennis Prager is a complete douche. There are many, many other things upon which we agree, some of which I probably could make big money writing up and selling to publications read by one-handers like Prager. And yes, I read all of the articles cited, with mounting horror.