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Rush Limbaugh should replace Kristol on the NYT editorial page. We need a heartland conservative who will shock the el ite’s sensibilities. about 12 hours ago from TweetDeck
Because nothing says "heartland conservative" like a serial-divorcee sex tourist junkie who makes $38 million a year and lives in a $24 million mansion. Salt of the earth…the common clay.
I, for one, am glad that conservatives are grasping new technologies with both hands allowing them to get their thoughts into the mainstream at the speed of stupid.
On his blog, which represents the next wave of conservative…well, something, Ruffini explains:
We shouldn’t play this game. Either we engage the liberal media on our terms or on none at all. The Times needs someone who is as far to the right, in as hard-edged and partisan a way, as Paul Krugman is to the left. The fact that strident left-wing voices one step voice up from Kos appear on the op-ed page is not considered a problem, so why shouldn’t the same be true on the right? Perhaps it would be better if both sides’ columnists were as reasonable and fair-minded as Brooks and Kristol. But if the Times continues to select liberal columnists who are locked and loaded for bear, we should accept nothing less for the right. To wit, the Times should pick Rush Limbaugh or a comparable full spectrum heartland conservative who defended Palin. Someone who would shock the Upper East Side, not reinforce its worldview in subtle ways. If not Rush, then Steyn or Lileks or someone with the intestinal fortitude for a fight.
Yes. Please pick someone who defended Palin. That worked out so well for Bill Kristol and John McCain.




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He wants Jimmy ‘Tight Shoes From Target’ Lilleks as his falangist Spartacus? Really?
falangist Spartacus Oooh, that’s a good’n.
Are they really latching on to Shitter? Seems about right for them, 125 characters max., they won’t be straining their tiny minds & sausage-like fingers too much.
And as all of their ideas seem reduced to
it’s not as if they have a lot to say.
If things go badly for them electorally in 2010 (Hey, that’s just next yr.!) they’ll be reduced to twittering “poo-poo on Obambi” over & over. Can’t wait.
If anything, Kristol chose Palin for J. Sidney McCain III.
For the sake of journalistic balance, would the Left have to find someone who was wrong about pretty much everything like Kristol was? That might take some time. Tell them we’ll get back to them.
Steyn I could see them hiring – he’s useless, ignorant and offensive, but he’s a conservative insider and has been Conrad Black’s favorite fart-catcher for years – but Lileks? I don’t think Lileks is qualified to deliver the New York Times, much less write for them. If he were a comic strip, he’d be Hi&Lois. If he were an ice cream, he’d be that cheap grocery store neapolitan where the chocolate, strawberry and vannila all taste pretty much the same. He’s Ned Flanders.
I have no affection or admiration for Maureen Dowd, but she’d probably make him flee the building in tears within an hour.
… and thereby keeping those hands away from body parts I never want to see them grasping, especially in public.
And while we’re here:
“We need a heartland conservative who will shock the elite’s sensibilities.“
Given that we “elitists” are allegedly amoral, baby-killing sexual deviants, I’m fairly sure no “heartland conservatives” are going to say anything that will “shock” my “sensibilities.” Unless it involves private parts and barnyard animals. That’s kinda where I draw the line.
I vote for Lileks. Just wait until those upper East Side elitists take in his blithering about what the haircut lady said to him. Hah! They’ll choke on their fancy “lattes” and be sorry they didn’t appreciate Kristol.
strident left-wing voices one step voice up from Kos…? Palinesque.
Do you think they’ll require that the conservative of choice have a Nobel Prize? Just to make sure it’s equivalent and all.
I’m kind of bummed. I was hoping Dr Sanity’s “left turning bulbs” epithet would catch on…bought the domain name, got the “tat” on my butt, was getting the t-shirts and baseball caps. Now it’s just more junk for Mrs. Souse to dust around.
Tbogg, you are no dKos.
Yet
The Times needs someone who is as far to the right, in as hard-edged and partisan a way, as Paul Krugman is to the left.
In one short sentence Ruffini puts the “jerk” in “knee-jerk” and the “nothing” in “know-nothing.”
Jesus, Limbaugh is comparable to Krugman? Regardless of his politics, what differentiates Krugman from the Nazi gasbag is that he knows what he’s talking about. Limbaugh is a blatant propagandist, an amoral atrocity, a liar, and a complete idiot. He’s also the closest a human can get to being a slug, but that’s being unkind to slugs.
And WTF? The Times needs someone who is as far to the right and if they are not engaged on our terms or none at all, the Ruffinis of the world will, what, go away? What exactly is the threat here? Fuck these assholes.
Someone who would shock the Upper East Side
uh, note to patrick … manhattan’s upper east side is about the city’s only zip code heavily dominated by republicans.
if you’re looking to smear those latte-drinking, volvo-driving liberal elites — it’s the west side you should refer to …
Jesus H. fucking Christ, I like Paul Krugman and I respect his work, but, look – he’s won the Nobel Prize and he’s tenured at Princeton. He’s part of the North American Establishment, and thank God for that, because he’s a very good man and a very responsible part of that establishment. These assholes are talking as though he were the ghost of Franz Fanon or Herbert Marcuse. Would that they would just STFU – I’m so tired of their odd, cartoonish perceptions of reality. They’re unfairly giving very stupid, very inadequate people a much worse rep than they really deserve.
He shouldn’t fret so much. Sulzberger is already on record as an “admirer” of Megan McArdle and Byron York. And both of them commit at least as many sloppy errors as Kristol does.
Bah! You beat me to it. I re-read that part about the Upper East a few times, trying to figure it out why he was making fun of NYC’s Republican stronghold. I agree with Ruffini! Let’s shock the UES! With Tasers!
Even when these clowns try to go all snarky they screw up their own punchline. Amazing.
It’s all part and parcel of the conservative conviction that they can dictate reality. Remember how the term “reality-based community” came about? It was a diss by a BushCo-PNAC Platoon stooge against people who actually weigh and judge and plan things based on real-world data:
If they think they can dictate reality, why bother learning how the real world works when they can just change it at will, like using the cheat codes in Quake?
RPorrofatto:
Why the Ruffinis of the world will cancel their subscriptions. En masse. What, you didn’t think they had subscriptions?
“Either we engage the liberal media on our terms or on none at all.”
Haven’t conservatives been threatening (promising) this for years? I think they should finally make good.
You can go away now. Please. That will teach us arugula eaters.
Bye.
You win.
See ya.
Why are you still here?
Careful what you wish for nitwit. Getting to “the table” with your dim-bulb ideas might shrink your ranks to say militia strength. What an asshole.
Who knew the Heartland moved to Miami Beach?
I swear when I first read that i thought it said Tweet Dick.
I don’t even know what twitter is.
“In one short sentence Ruffini puts the “jerk” in “knee-jerk” and the “nothing” in “know-nothing.””
Can’t resist, he also puts the “twit” into Twitter.
If not Rush, then Steyn or Lileks or someone with the intestinal fortitude for a fight.
Lileks? Can I say Lileks is a pussy? or do i have to say wuss?
As am I.
I normally skip right over this pie fight, but shouldn’t a requirement of any journalist be to be correct about something, anything, sometimes?
And when events show you to be wrong, shouldn’t you have to acknowledge it, not just scream “More tax cuts!?”
That’s rich. I will concede that Brooks appears reasonable in comparison to Kristol.
You can say he’s pusillanamous… and send the wingnuts running for the dictionary.
Brooks in fact appears sane and reasonable compared to most conservatives. That is to say that he rises to the level of moron instead of idiot.
where does cretin fit in on that scale? I always get them mixed up. I’ve called palin an imbecile but i have a feeling she’s a cretin.
“Rabid lambs” of the left destroyed any lingering appearance of reasonable.
The mind reels.
OT but Obama is right now having lunch with the “loyal” opposition. He wants to convince them to get on board the stimulus package. I fear what will happen is he will increase the tax cuts and cut back on infrastructure to please the Republicans. It’s beginning to appear that Obama’s stimulus package may fall well short of what’s needed. Obama needs to listen less to Republicans who caused the problems and more to Krugman and Ravi Batra.
Indeed, Limbaugh would not reinforce [the Upper East Side’s] world view in subtle ways.
So long as they are convinced that he is desperate for their affection, they’ll continue to hold their affection hostage and demand more. He should not start acting aloof and start negotiating a less generous offer. They’ll then cave very quickly.
OT News:
TARP Bank Shares Index Losses Are Four Times the S&P 500’s: Chart of Day Since the U.S. Treasury began investing in banks through its Capital Purchase Program, a gauge of participating companies’ share prices has lost four times as much as the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index.
71,000 jobs lost today…consumer confidence at all time low…many atate unemployment funds undefunded… for some its a depression…for some its a recession…for some who walk with the stolen booty its a party.
I share your fear. If you have the votes to pass a good bill, why put up a not so good one? Why continue capitulating on R talking points?
Doesn’t Palin have an almostsoninlaw who needs a job?
btw – isn’t Brooks the one with the paranoic fear of rabid sheep?
All hail the new new twitiot overlords. Enter the next wave of moran-ocracy, ready to be moran-ing at a location near you.
Is that 71,000 today as in not yesterday? As in almost 150,000 in two days?
late to the party yet again. phoo. and just look at all i missed!
goodgawd. these guys pale in comparison to a middle school science-fair project. are they kidding, or are they really this -um- new at this?!
“….like Krugman.”??????
do they give Pulitzers for stupid?????
LOL TBogg!!!
Your use of the phrase “common clay” reminded me of the great Gene Wilder quote from Blazing Saddles about the white townspeople and their reaction to their new black sheriff:
“You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. They’re people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know – morons”
Hi Christy.
We hope you guys got some decent weather and a bit of rest on your break.
Nice to have you back. ;->
HEY! As a former near-subsistence-farmer, I resemble that remark!?!
OK, gang……there is no. way. in. hell I’m gonna click on any of those links because Dog knows where they go. Will someone plezzzzzzzzzz tell me tbogg is off on a major snark as opposed to this being real?
I’m gonna go get the razor blade prepped in the event the news is bad.
Happy to report that William the Bloody received an extremely warm welcome at the wapoo today, in case you’ve not checked lately. s/
That from Bloomberg news.
The TARP assest we the people hold are part of the worthless crap pile. The rethugs are stealing again after the massive wall street frauds that cost 40% of equity.
The bailout needs to be a huge safety net: food stamps unemployment benefit extension package and work programs to keep the employable afloat for the years of recession we are facing. Rubbini is on it today.
When people have no bucks for food, housing and transportation the fear factor we so dislike will play bigger. The safety net is Obama’s whole card.
republican tax breaks help get us here…that is not a stimulus tiil. The economy is driven by DISPOSABLE INCOME.
“It is the economy stupid”.
What’s “new” is that they’ve got to come up with actual facts to fit into their screeds. When you’ve been copy-and-paste-ing Rethug talking points for the last 4 years (it took them until then to find the intertoobz) it’s hard to make the brain actually, like, think.
thanks for the reminder. i gotta dive in the dumpster and remove their lil’ cookies afore i fergit. if they find this place, they might larn sumpin suspeciesus.
Aw, damn, now I gotta go check it out.
We will all be near subsistence farmers in the “New Economy”. Plant those veggies in lieu of cash at the market. Barter and trade.
tell ‘em Christy. it was cold down here. freezing. I mean really freezing.
Made my tangerines sweeter though.
makes my head hurt to think about it. mebbe i could send ‘em a “Swifter”@
beginnnnner’s kit to hep em with start-up.
Hope you and the tigers are doing well, sir. ;->
Hold it right there Adie that’s my dumpster…go find your own…the garbage in this nieghborhood is taken.
Hey, Adie -
Didya read Krugman’s column yesterday? What he didn’t get to say Sunday was very nicely covered. *G*
Keynes!
great! i was worried it kilt ‘em. ya know, over Xmas was the 1st time I ever had tangerine pie. Very good.
OT
It sounds like the Rs are declaring victory after meeting with Obama. Citing Obama’s saying “he has no pride of authorship” and “willing to listen to ideas” as carte blanche to Rs to do their own thing.
We be fine. Thanks for asking.
Rs say tax cuts not big enuf, and that Obama sez he is also concerned about some of the spending in the bill. Blaming the House Ds for all the problems, hoping to wedge prez & congressional Ds.
Kids in the neighborhood have been gettin’ ‘em before they were ripe. Now the ripe ones are out of their reach. Picked one when I came home for lunch. Sweeeeeeet. Not too many left, though. The stray tigers in the neighborhood just ain’t big enough to scare the kids off. Hmmmm, maybe Big Cat Rescue would loan me one.
Ruffini is now trying to say his suggestion was tongue-in-cheek, and reflects his distain for the Times.
How clever, “Never mind”.
I’m thinking that Rush really is what passes for an intellect on the right these days, which of course embarrasses the hell out of “Them what’s in charge.”
The pundits for the right should have all taken a vacation for the month of January, and this could have been avoided.
For the conservative, anti-Krugman slot on the Times op-ed page:
(drum roll, followed by trumpet fanfare, please)
JOE THE OP-ED COLUMNIST!!
The more they run their mouths the more they make fools of themselves. Let ‘em talk.
I live in Manhattan. We voted for Obama by more than 80%. We are chock full o’ liberals. The New York Times is our hometown paper.
Now, can someone please explain to me how it is that they think the NY Times can increase it’s readership by adding another conservative (they already have Brooks) to their Op-Ed roster? I don’t get it.
If the Times is smart, what they’ll look for is a liberal foreign policy expert to complement Krugman’s economics coverage. That might give New Yorkers (the prime target for the Times advertisers) more reason to pick up the Times on a regular basis.
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Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.
Tboggs is having that kind of day.
Ya know, I have a mild passing acquaintance with NYC, live on the West coast, and even I knew the upper East side was Republican. I read that, and glossed over it because I didn’t understand WTF he was talking about. I don’t think he did either.
well duh! pardon, but don’t knock it. Got a MS, circumstances changed, had to be a stay-at-home mom, so that’s precisely what I did. YES, in Ohio clay.
We even grew the mung bean plants in the garden and harvested the seed to make winter sprouts.
Have you ever tasted hummus made from home-grown garbanzos? huh? huh?
Ever harvested tender, sweet, scrumptious spinach from under the snow, all winter long, free? Huh?
Ever sat the whole family around in a circle on the garage floor in early autumn and prepped the home-grown popcorn by hand?
Ever won grand prize veggie with your perfect little string beans three years in a row at the county fair?
Ever tasted the difference in flavor of a lowly home-grown potato and its sickly store-bought cousin from heaven knows where?
Ever noticed how much smarter and more loving a sweet little Alpine
milking goatpet goat who happens to provide your family’s milk, is than most dawgs? Huh?Ever kept your kids home from school on the day their momma-goat buddy had her babies, so they could enjoy the experience together?
Don’t knock farmin’, son.
Instead, tuck a little start of oregano in amongst yer petunias. Put THAT in yer pizza and smoke it. ;->
Great! I’ve noticed before that he tends to do that, the little sneak.
Thanks for the heads-up. I’ll check it out. Thanks much!
BTt up at the mothership: Halliburton Fined Record $569 Million for Bribing Foreign Officials — While Cheney Was CEO
Put up your shield, grab yer lance, and wade in. It do appear to be “real”.
and kinda hilarious in a sickening, pathetic sorta way.
Zappa quote…missed the credit. To quote Satchmo “It’s a wonderful day” inspite of it all “The sun also rises”..Ernest Hemingway.
Love one another and…” be happy for in happiness you find happiness”..bigbrother watching you.
hee hee. I salute you for your superb in-depth analysis.
Adie I was serious I had my dumpster diving in the 60s hippie days. I have promoted grow you own food on this site for year. I have the worm farm, the organic compost. 14′ plantar boxes of veggies. I make my greywater into compost tea with aeration and microrzzae. I have layered soils rock and leach pipe for drainage. Soil is the big deal.
My comment referred to the growing army of needy who collect cans for redemption and produce that has imperfection but is edible.
The safety net has been undefunded for decades.
I don’t know what’s more amusing, the notion that Limbaugh’s shtick could “shock” anyone any more, or that Lileks would last more than two weeks at the NYT, even given its somewhat relaxed standards lately (see: MoDo). At least with the latter, we could look forward to YouTube footage of his being pelted with stale bagels whenever he showed his face in public.
Is there nothing new under the sun? What is “under” when speaking of the sun? Whose, which sun? What’s a dumpster, a resource by another name? How ’bout I just hitch it up and make off with it?! humph! Dang elitist Ichthyomyzon everywhere ya look….
Ah! I posted to quickly and missed all the good stuff. Bravo to you.
Well, nobody answered my question but in rereading it says, “limpballs ’should’ replace” so, sister, let’s us pray real hard that it’s a joke. I’m so forkin’ gullible, it’s reeeeeeeel easy to take stuff literally.
“too”, NOT to *sigh*
because no one is brave enough to guess? i’m not. egad. look at how i mangle when i be trapped by de language and need a hidey-hole quick.
I don’t know the answer, but I did click all the lil’ links TBogg put up, plus a few of the others, partly just to see if I could figure why people bother with twitter at all. No answers yet, except that my machine still works.
The fact that anyone ever hired Kristol in the 1st place is one thing that has always stumped me. Is he someone’s woebegone brother-in-law or somethin? I wouldn’t hire him to hold a potted plant.
“The Times needs someone who is as far to the right, in as hard-edged and partisan a way, as Paul Krugman is to the left.”
Sounds good. Can we get Krugman in the WSJ in exchange then? And on Faux Noise, without both of the rude interruptions and the snide comments after the guests’ spot has ended?
Say what you like about the parade of crazies on the WSJ op-ed page, but they hired Thomas Frank as their contrarian, which is more than the NYT would do. Can’t be having someone who scares the advertisers.
Putting Limbaugh on the NYT editorial page might be a good idea. I’ll bet most of those Upper East Side conservatives don’t have any idea what an idiot the guy is. In fact, I’ll bet most people in the country are not fully aware of how far out of the mainstream, and how fully divorced from reality he is.
I’ve been wondering lately, how it is that someone who is supposed to be some sort of conservative icon and standard bearer is never a guest on MSM political shows, is never quoted, is never cited as a source, never does anything outside of his little world, where he’s free to invent his own reality. If he were on the NYT editorial page the amount of BS coming out of him just might become the news item it deserves to be.
Apologies! I feel awful about my flippant-seeming attitude earliler.
YES! I commend your efforts, and encourage you and all who follow your lead.
Folks: imo, It simply doesn’t matter what your circumstances, to some degree.
You CAN grow some very nutritious stuff that may not provide bulk, but surely can enhance vitamin balance etc., in a very very small space. The only concern I would have is for folks who don’t trust the soil source and purity, or that of their ambient air. For them, I would suggest seeking out trusted sources of pure and safe foods. They are out there.
A personal preference of mine: walk right past the purveyors of pre-packaged health supplement mixtures of basically unknown origin, composition, action, strength, or safety.
Personally, I’d rather walk into the nearest “natural-foods” supermarket and scoop up the real thing from their bulk supplies: fresh kale and carrots et al., dried grains and legumes, etc.
Usually people at such a market are delighted to help you understand what mixtures might be healthy, and how to cook the produce they offer. The quality of produce is usually FAR higher than at most other supermarkets also, so when you measure costs, keep in mind how fresh and totally consumable the produce is from such places.
Deep thanks, bigbrother, for all your efforts in this line.
The scale goes idiot, imbecile, moron.
An idiot can’t even wipe his or her own ass, & essentially must be supervised/observed at all times.
An imbecile can perform some tasks, & a moron can be trusted to tie his/her shoes & doesn’t have to be under constant supervision.
Not sure where on the scale Sarah fits.
sorry if i’m repeating – but….Brooks locked and loaded for bear? the mind boggles.
Shorter DaBro today:
Conforming to “Institutions” is good. Thinking for yourself, not such a good idea.
I just sent that idiot a link to this post. Hope he chokes on it.
it must be the season for wingnuts being put out to pasture. Our local wingnut, Jim Wooten is retiring and the ajc is looking for replacement ‘conservtive columnists’ from the public.
Perhaps Lileks can annoy Atlanta residents as practice. Hell, they may even like him. And we can re-run all of tboggs snark on the lileks clan.