The other day I innocently (or as innocent as I can be) happened to make a comment over at the blog of Donald Douglas, American Power. Donald was going off against the stimulus plan and, knowing that Donald is a professor at LBCC, in all sincerity I commented:
Be careful what you wish for Donald. I would hate to see the definition of a "socialist" become: " a pro-victory associate professor who lost his job because the state didn’t get enough stimulus money".
And I’m not being snarky.
Best of luck to you.
Apparently that was fraught with more ominous undertones than a Sicilian kiss of death:
TBogg says he’s "not being snarky."
Okay, then what is he being? He’s certainly not being caring or compassionate. That’s not his intent at all, since his entire blogging schtick is snark.
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And now TBogg claims that his comment at my post wasn’t "snarky"? Well, perhaps a little childish excoriation wasn’t up to the task needed to take me down more than a few notches, that is, to destroy me for speaking truth to Democratic power.
I’m halfway through reading David Denby’s, Snark, a book on the increasing corrosion of public discusion in American life. Now, I’m no fan of Denby. In a later section of the book, in a chapter devoted to Maureen Dowd, he slams the New York Times columnist for the inadequacies of her snarky essays in attacking President George W. Bush, who Denby calls a tyrant (and then pleads that he’s not comparing President Bush to "Hitler").
n his historical review of snark, Denby says some of those who professionally attack others intend their words to be strong enough to "make their victims disappear – go away, give up, even kill themselves."
This, then, perfectlly captures TBogg’s comment above.
I’m one neoconservative blogger who "just won’t die," and when I’m actually strengthened by the abuse and invective from folks like TBogg, they’ll abandon snark to just sow fear – in this case job loss for a professor like me employed by the state community college system.
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It’s not just, "How dare you ridicule the Democratic socialist agenda? Don’t you know that you’ll lose your job?" It’s "I hope and pray you lose your job you wingnut freak, and that you die in the wet gutter of the unemployment lines. We’ve had it with neocons like you who’ve raked this country over the coals with war and economic catastrophe." TBogg’s beyond just flipping conservatives the bird of dismissal. His intent here is to feign serious concern – "Best of luck to you" – in disguise of the dark spells of death and destruction.
This is what’s at the heart of the left. Both sides do snark, of course, as Denby indicates to full extent in is book.
But people like TBogg have truly abandoned any modicum of divine grace and reason for the witch’s spell of contumely and ridicule. This is the faux humor of secular demonology. It’s not for fun and laughs. It’s to denigrate and destroy those whose values and ideas stand in the way of the left’s progressive nihilism that’s seeking a chokehold on the vitality of this nation.
Now you may remember that Donald dubbed me the Demonic Conservative Ridicule Machine, but I had no idea that I was capable of casting a "witch’s spell of contumely and ridicule" which sounds kind of awesome but I rather have X-Ray vision or Super Dictionary Powers so I would know what the hell ‘contumely’ is without having to look it up.
But this makes me sad. Not sad that I didn’t know what contumely means. But sad that someday I might meet Donald, since we both live in SoCal (represent 858!), and if I said "Nice to meet you" he might respond, "WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN!" …and that would be kind of awkward.
Or "incommodious"
Super Dictionary Powers! off.




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Wow! Such power! I’ve never seen a picture of you Tbogg, but now I imagine you now as a flaming qwirked eye brow atop Barad-dûr overlooking the Dark Wasteland of San Diego
I’m just curious as to whether his over-the-top, religiously-tinged rhetoric indicates that he’s: a) a serious egomaniac who thinks everyone’s out to get him out of jealousy, or b) so delusional he thinks you’re actually using some sort of progressive hoodoo to bewitch him.
That being said, if you are a warlock, I’ll find out. And don’t think your demonic conservative ridicule machine will intimidate me!
The juxtaposition of this post, featuring the uber-gooper stylings of Donald “Purty Mouf” Douglas, and the preceding one referencing Bill “Reeeeeeit” McKinney—is nothing short of masterful.
Well-played, Sir.
’s okay,T. 858 is the number of the Beast, after all, and home to lots of progressive secular demonists who, due to our snarking abandonment of divine grace and reason, delight in nothing so much as flipping dismissal-birds at the occasional passing neocon.
Best of luck, dark spells of death and destruction,
s
(I’m probably going to get some of the names wrong, ‘cos I’m too lazy to look them up. )
I guess for Dougie, after 8 years of an administration that produced a “clean skies initiative” that seemed to be designed to increase pollution, a “healthy forests initiative” that seemed to be designed to increase clearcutting, and a “no child left behind act” that seemed to be designed to destroy public schools in underfunded areas, it’s not much of a stretch for him to see you say “Hope you don’t lose your job” and read it as being “I hope you die in a gutter unemployed”.
Why the hell did you add ellipses? The whole wonder to behold is in the long-windedness of the wounded.
Also, note that the first commenter declares you an enemy to democracy. So you’ve got that going for you, which is nice.
I’m not surprised Donald sees your comment as snarky since he’s 100% wingnut.
Not sure what he’s doing working in a state-run school as it seems to go against everything he believes in, including, for example, Palin and Virgin Ben. Weird.O.
I dunno about you, Tbogg, but I certainly don’t want the wingtards to die or otherwise “go away.”
I just want them out of the government.
Making fun of stupid people is kinda senseless unless there is an underlying political point to score, after all.
I mean, if the “Demonic Conservative Ridicule Machine” is not fed a steady supply of fresh meat — what does it do? Revert to mowing the lawn?
It’s not for fun and laughs.
With the wingtards out of power — yeah, that’s really all it is.
Bold! Italic!
Way to get under his skin, even if you didn’t really mean to.
Wow. That was one paranoid screed. And after all that I had to look up “contumely”. There are probably people that Tbogg would wish to die in a wet gutter (how poetic) but I seriously can’t imagine him wasting such rich fantasy on the likes of a Donald Douglas.
But Douglas’ job does cause me to smirk once again — there are so many wingnuts who rail against government employees feeding at the trough of public moneys while they receive their paychecks from taxpayers. What is it that they don’t comprehend about the nature of their employment? Or are they really that self-loathing?
He reads David Denby on snark. Heh.
Let us know when he gets canned.
Well, it would be kind of fun to see this prof get what’s coming to him, but we liberals don’t wish that sort of thing on our enemies. We are too compassionate for that. Or are we?
Speaking of Super Dictionary Powers, the word “snark” itself starts to sound really ridiculous when it is repeated over and over again in a humorless, foam-flecked diatribe like Douglas’s. “Snark!! He’s using snark on me, but he SAYS he’s not using snark! I know from snark! I just read that book about snark! Don’t tell me you’re not snarking when I know you’re snarking!”
In cyberspace, no one can hear you snark. But they do anyway.
Has he used these word-thingies before? Because he’s – like – using them crooked.
Tbogg, please say something about the Fairness Doctrine in your next comment over there.
Pretty please?
“I hope and pray you lose your job you wingnut freak, and that you die in the wet gutter of the unemployment lines. We’ve had it with neocons like you who’ve raked this country over the coals with war and economic catastrophe.” No, I just want them all to wake up and realize how badly their actions have damaged the country and the lives of their fellow citizens of the world.
At the very least, Donald and his continued employment at a state-run college is living proof that there’s something profoundly wrong with our educational system, and it’ll take more than stimulus money to fix it…
Denby shouldn’t compare Bush to Hitler,he’s more like an incompetent Mussolini.
If Mussolini was as successful as Bush, Heili Selasi would have driven a Vespa and “Do They Know It’s Christmas?” would be a Roberto Benigni movie.
Bush is more of a Hirohito: land war in Asia, not enough troops, fanatical devotees, and smug superiority.
Hey, I thought all political science professors were left wing nutjobs anyway. Who let this guy in?
I certainly take Rate My Professors with an entire shaker worth of salt, but the comments about him are pretty funny:
This man needs to teach at a Junior High School where his personal politics wont matter to the students. Avoid this class. Try another instructor or you will waste your money.
etc.
btw, his hotness total is 0.
Maybe if the City College thing doesn’t work out, he can check the job ads at Pepperdine.
My, my, what a touchy drama queen. I’ll bet he tossed and turned all night while writing that screed in his head, with one trip to the can and then to the dictionary so he could find some words that no ones knows since they aren’t used in common language. Wingnuts loooovvvvveees them some odd words; they think it makes them sound smart and all, instead of like the insecure dweebs they’ve always been. Virgin Ben and Pantload try this occassionally, and with predictably laughable results.
He’s certainly entertaining. Just when I worried that my image of all wingnuttery was too cartoonish…
Sorry about your divine grace.
Reading the full biography of Assistant Professor Douglass (Crazytown Dept.) truly could keep a team of psychiatrist busy. In his favorite books section he lists Atlas Shruggs (shocker) and then For Whom the Bell Tolls, the story of freely elected Commy/Socialist/Anarchists fighting fascists. Hmmmm. Looking further down the list, I see that he has bridged this gulf by listing Watership Down. I confused.
Oh, and I think he would welcome any commentary, since the average number of comments on his non-demonic un-witchy posts over there is about “1″.
I think we now have a critical mass of evidence as to exactly why academia is dominated by those evil liberals and why there are so few conservatives there. (Not actually true BTW, as anyone who has visited a business or law school can attest).
Well, you were being a little snarky there:
“I would hate to see the definition of a “socialist” become: ” a pro-victory associate professor who lost his job because the state didn’t get enough stimulus money”.
But that’s neatly and properly snarky, I’d say. It kind of suggests to him that he may be a whiny hypocrite for railing on about things that will potentially hurt him — and, more importantly, other people — without acknowledging that he may benefit from stimulus. He just avoids the entire context of what you were addressing.
Whadda asshole.
Ah, the proverbial light bulb just went on above my head. Now I get why Republicans (come on .. conservatives is laughable) are so into tax cuts. It is said that only two things are certain – death and taxes. They figure if they can get rid of taxes … they’ll be immortal!
Hey, when did you abandon “any modicum of divine grace and reason”? Because those sound kind of like Silver Surfer powers.
Damn, dood, over-react much?
Reverand Randolph called – he wants his spittle back.
Wouldn’t you just love to see his reaction after he sat down to dinner only to discover that his wife had made tuna casserole and brussels sprouts?
Oh, the Humanity!!!
mikey
You obviously got well past the skin level and have buried deep into his core. He lost the rhetorical skirmish when he posted this response. Why can’t wingnuts ever learn?
So, the Red State Wolverines have a SoCal branch?
Demonic? Yeppers. Arrogant? Naah. Rude and insolent? Mmmmmmmm…
Man that guy is an asshole. Check out what’s front page now–the accusation that because a right wing agitprop kid calls up and offers some random staffer “money to fund abortions…because I think there are too many black babies” that that is somehow PP’s position on minority births. What a phenomenal idjit.
aimai
Contumely is a real word. I figured it was just something he had misspelled.
Brush up yer Shakespeare:
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th’ oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of th’ unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin?
(Paul “Bare” Bodkin was, of course, one of the twentieth centuries great college football coaches.)
Dammit, that should have been “century’s.”
T.Bogg, a Somewhat Popular Blogger —>
Demonic Conservative Ridicule Machine Casting Dark Spells of Death and Destruction, Contumely and Ridicule, Denigration and Destruction and Chokeholding the Vitality of This Nation
You’ve come a long way, baby. I think you deserve your own cigarette–to be used to inflict burns on those whose values and ideas stand in the way of the left’s progressive nihilism. Let’s call them California Snarklettes.
Donald Douglas’ witty and lighthearted rejounder has complerely sailed right by you, if you’re lucky.
Well played, sir.
(I had to learn that in Senior English, but it faded away)
oh noes .. i can’t limn contumely …. help …
Just in case, let me make it clear for him. I hope and pray you, along with the rest of the people who screwed over our country and use the Constitution for toilet paper, lose your job you wingnut freak, and that you die in the wet gutter of the unemployment lines. We’ve had it with neocons like you who’ve raked this country over the coals with war and economic catastrophe.
Howard Appel (also in SoCal)
Y’know, the Eighth Commandment (the one against bearing false witness) includes assuming the best about one’s neighbor’s actions and intentions.
It’s also good mental hygeine. I learned about it in therapy before I found it in the Small Catechism.
Poor Donald is oblivious to the fact that underneath his hard snark-candy shell, our Tbogg has a melty chocolate heart as big all outdoors.
And to go from an erroneous assumption of insincerity to a full-on paranoid freakout? Well, God love ‘im.
Roger Hedgecock cowers at the mention of your name, oh Great One!
Sheesh! Donald Douglas called you Snarki, but I know Snarki, and you sir, are no Snarki.
So there!
Still, sounds like you struck a nerve. Any student that mutters something that sounds vaguely like “TBogg” in cranky Don’s presence is likely to get treated to an incoherent spittle-flecked rant. Hey, could someone alert one of Don’s colleagues to do that in a faculty meeting? Extra credit for youtubing it!
OK, so I found out that “contumely” is closer to “high-handedness” or “insolence” than it is to “contempt”.
Take care guys. And by that I mean, eat shit and go die in a fire.
My favorite part of all this is how he hates David Denby but is still reading his damn book. LOL-tastic.
Douglass has, iirc, admitted that he dials up to eleven on his blog to attract attention.
So no, I think he understood exactly what Tbogg was saying, he just pulled out the flamethrower cause he knows that sucks in the readers.
In other words: “Americanneocon – I’m not a drama queen, but I do play one on the internet!”