I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle, Steve. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets, Steve. Good vs. Evil. Free Men vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend. – T. McVeigh
Knoxville church shooter James Adkisson:
"Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….
"This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence."
"I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops kill me….Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life aint worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.
…Lest we forget
"In 1987 he got a pistol permit from Niagara County and a job in Buffalo as a guard on an armored car. A co-worker recalls that McVeigh owned numerous firearms and had a survivalist philosophy — a tendency to stockpile weapons and food in preparation for what he believed to be the imminent breakdown of society. In 1988 McVeigh and a friend bought 10 acres of rural land and used it as a shooting range.
McVeigh enlisted in the Army in Buffalo in May 1988, and went through basic training at Fort Benning, Georgia. After basic training, his unit was transferred to Fort Riley, Kansas, and became part of the Army’s 1st Infantry Division.
McVeigh became a gunner on a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. He was promoted to corporal, sergeant, then platoon leader. Fellow soldiers recalled that McVeigh was very interested in military stuff, kept his own personal collection of firearms and constantly cleaned and maintained them. Other soldiers went into town to look for entertainment or companionship but McVeigh stayed on base and cleaned his guns. During his time in the Army, he also read and recommended to others "The Turner Diaries,"– a racist, anti-Semitic novel about a soldier in an underground army. A former roommate said that McVeigh would panic at the prospect of the government taking away peoples’ guns, but that he was not a racist and was basically indifferent to racial matters.
[...]
McVeigh traveled to Waco, Texas during the March-April 1993 standoff between the Branch Davidians and federal agents, and was said to have been angry about what he saw. He sold firearms at a gun show in Arizona and was heard to remark on one weapon’s ability to shoot down an ATF helicopter.
Although both Arizona and Michigan are host to militant anti-tax, anti-government, survivalist and racist groups, there is no evidence that he ever belonged to any extremist groups. He advertised to sell a weapon in what is described as a virulently anti-Semitic publication. After renting a Ryder truck that has been linked to the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh telephoned a religious community that preaches white supremacy, but no one there can remember knowing him or talking to him. His only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days, and as a member of the National Rifle Association while he was in the Army.
The explosion killed 168 people, and 450 were injured.[49] Nineteen of the victims were small children in the day care center on the ground floor of the building.[50]
McVeigh did not express remorse for the deaths, what he referred to as "collateral damage", but said he might have chosen a different target if he had known the day care center was open.[51] According to Michel and Herbeck, McVeigh claimed not to have known there was a day care center in the Murrah Building, and said that if he had known it, in his own words:
"It might have given me pause to switch targets. That’s a large amount of collateral damage."





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See, now here’s the value of doing one’s research, which back in my day, they used to teach in school.
Course, there is that little thought that somehow, everyone other than the children, deserved their fate (as in, his choice of their fate).
As a fellow Cancerian, as a fellow July 8 birthboy, how did I miss that level of confidence?
Rest in Peace, Baylee.
I was in Edmond, Oklahoma, just north of Oklahoma City, on the day of the bombing. The strength of the shockwave from the explosion could be felt strongly even up there. What we all saw after that was worse.
It’s odd–or perhaps it isn’t–how the Oklahoma City bombing has been swept under the rug since the Sept. 11th attacks. Homegrown terrorism doesn’t fit the narrative, obviously, but we’re seeing it now.
I am a native Okie, though I had left the state a few years prior to the bombing. These people, the far right eliminationists, are by far the greatest terrorist threat to this country and always have been. Another consequence of 30 years of Republican dominance is that federal law enforcement has neglected them during that period. Given what Obama represents to them (his race, his name, his politics), there will be far more of this kind of violence and, according the the SPLC, there has already been a spike in their activity since the election.
It’s sad that history demands we never forget the people most deserving of never being remembered.
Strange how Cheney never got around to waterboarding Terry Nichols to find out what he knew about the OKC bombing conspiracy.
Why, it’s like he already knew the answer, or didn’t want to know!
It’s hard to get my snark on with this topic. These hate-filled “Christians” are indeed the greatest threat to America. Combining their loose grip on sanity with their lethal toys, mean they are more dangerous than all the sleeper cells of all the islamocommieeuroathiests in the world.
they are more dangerous than all the sleeper cells of all the islamocommieeuroathiests in the world
Yeah, but they aren’t brown-skinned, or wrapped in bedsheets, or college-educated, easy to identify lib’ruls, so they don’t count.
Plus, they vote the right way, dammit.
Liberals are a pest like termites
The Nazis thought so too.
oh and just in case anyone – like that jammyfuckhead – tries to dissociate Rush Limbaugh and right wing talk radio from the killer’s MO:
In my country, these statements would punishable under the hate crime law.
I can’t get my snark on with this topic either. What happened in Oklahoma City and in that Unitarian church are the natural outgrowths of the spew from hatebags like Limbaugh and Coulter. Dear MSM: more focus on THIS aspect please!
Absolutely, absolutely. May her memory endure as a blessing. And I hope that the firefighter’s dreams are not as tormented as they could be…
Thanks, Tbogg. Timother McVeigh and all of these mass shooters are the terrorists that America needs to worry about most. They’re our neighbors. They’re somebody’s relatives. Some have lost their jobs. Some are losing their grasp of reality. Most are heartbreakingly ill-informed (such as all the wingnuts who think that President Obama is personally going to “take our guns away”). They kill people near us. They kill other Americans. My children were much younger when I had to explain to them about the 9/11 attacks (the plane that hit the Pentagon went right over Daddy’s office building), and the subsequent D.C. sniper attacks that surrounded us. That is a hell of a subject to talk to one’s children about, then and now. It’s a greater hell for the families of those who died.
From the AP, “In last month, mass shootings claim 53 lives”.
In contrast, icasualties.org says that there were 9 Americans killed in Iraq in March, and 28 Coalition fatalities in Afghanistan during the same month.
I don’t know which numbers upset me more.
funny how all those damn left-wing liberals never go crazy and start shooting random people.
also funny how those most worried that the gubmint’s gonna come take away their guns so often go on to provide the best reasons for that to happen.
maybe liberals should start arming ourselves, too. or maybe there just oughtta be a psychological evaluation involved in the purchase of a firearm.
I could see this coming from miles away, and I said the same thing. These are inherently violent individuals, and it would behoove everyone to defend yourselves against them.
But it gets me troll-rated when I say that.
Isn’t there some kind of law (besides the dreaded Alien and Sedition Act) that would hold people accountable for their threatening statements? Glenn Beck and Michelle Bachmann calling for armed revolution on TV sounds like treason to me. Am I just paranoid? There are now over 900 hate groups in this country, and that’s not counting blogs, like Red State and Jammiewearingfool. Talk about sleeper cells. What these people are propounding is the overthrow of our government, just because they lost the election. It would seem so silly, but they’re serious. That makes it scary, especially in light of Knoxville, and now Pittsburgh. It seems that at some point, the government should intervene and say, “Okay, you’ve crossed the line and you’re going to jail.”
Who says I’m not armed?