Thanks to bonkers in the comments the awesomeness that is Ziegler:
I’ve often criticized reality shows because the people on them play and speak for the camera which is the exact opposite of reality. But John Ziegler? The douchebag is strong in this one, and you can’t stop the douchebaggery, you can only hope to contain it.
But in this case, you really can’t.
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HA! My co-blogger is the one that posted the vid- her hubby wrote for that show (I know!! You mean they’re scripted?) and was the one that told us about Zeigler’s dickiness. Background on the filming here- John Zeigler on “The New Dating Story”
One gets the impression that he intended to act like he was human, but the effort, oh the effort. Plus it’s hard to play something so alien to this reptile.
Awesome. He pins the douchebag meter at 11. She showed remarkable restraint; I can’t believe that she didn’t at least dump her drink on his head. No one will convince me that he will get through life without having raped at least one woman.
Very very shallow.
“Informed and rational is an oxymoron for women.”
Can’t. Watch. Any. More.
Oh, rejected on camera. Burn.
Sad to be you, Ziegler.
Better go get “arrested” or “interview” Sarah Palin.
This was my husband’s show. Paddy, in your first comment at the top, explained that already, but let me add: Ziegler was a dick. That pretty much was the consensus. And the stories I can’t tell here confirm that even more.
Glad you found the vid. Fun stuff, huh?
Isn’t his douchebaggery the entire premise of Ole Dr. Professor’s site? I’m sure this would get a strong Heh Indeedy! over there.
Which is to say that I’m not that shocked; chauvinism is at the base of the he-man rightblogger.
Thanks. Now, I need to go to one of those websites where dogs will lick the inside of my screen to clean off the slime.
Jeez, the Dockers™ and Greg Norman™ outfit didn’t get him an immediate blowjob and vows of eternal fidelity? WTF?
He got angry when she swung the golf club better than he could/a woman’s supposed to.
I see a blow up doll in his future.
Nah, that would mean he would be looking at something vaguely woman-like. A “love sleeve” seems more his speed. Maybe even a heated one…
Actually, he is the physical double of Plastic Man.
Jeez, what an ass.
“Informed and rational. I know that’s an oxymoron in women, but…”
Dude is lucky he didn’t get out of the restaurant with his privates in a ziploc baggie while riding on a gurney.
I have no idea who the woman is, but she’s clearly an excellent judge of character.
And the video. Full of win.
That was a bit too enjoyable. I had to ration myself to 30 second segments at a time.
The german word schadenfreude means taking pleasure in another’s misfortune. We need another word for taking pleasure in another’s misfortune, but when that other deserves it because they are a total douche.
It seems John just likes attention. And we’re giving it to him. Maybe that’s why he’s such a guilty pleasure.
I have to salute that woman, her perseverance, her metered patience.
Asshole act that way in conversation with me and he’d be crying and searching for an orthodontist, stat.
Apparently he’s a scratch golfer, so I don’t know what his deal is.
Anyway, here’s a nice article on talk radio, focusing on one John Zeigler, from the Atlantic in 2005 by the late great David Foster Wallace.
As a side note, there’s this snippet from a paragraph discussing radio advertisements:
As of spring ‘04, though, the most frequent and concussive ads on KFI are for mortgage and home-refi companies—Green Light Financial, HMS Capital, Home Field Financial, Benchmark Lending. Over and over. Pacific Home Financial, U.S. Mortgage Capital, Crestline Funding, Advantix Lending. Reverse mortgages, negative amortization, adjustable rates, APR, FICO … where did all these firms come from? What were these guys doing five years ago? Why is KFI’s audience seen as so especially ripe and ready for refi? Betterloans.com, lendingtree.com, Union Bank of California, on and on and on.
Silver lining: Ziegler will never, ever be able to procreate.
Oh. My. God.
We look more distinguished, you guys get older, and by the time you get to your forties the power has completely shifted.
Yeah, I’d say the reason he’s never been married is female insecurity. That or the fact that he thinks a woman on a first date is asking him to describe his favorite past f*ck.
Slick how he managed not to cite a single successful relationship.
Damn. No wonder.
So, Julia, you don’t think he looked distinguished in the USC Drunken Detention video? When I saw the suave, debonair way Z carried it off, I was immediately reminded of. . . Oh, I don’t know. . . Cary Grant? George Sanders? William Powell?
Well, OK. Maybe Larry Fine. But in his later, more distinguished Stoogedom.
I’m sure Tbogg wouldn’t mind if you hijacked this thread to tell us more about the scripting.
Enquiring minds want to know!!!
So what happened to the dick?
BTW: interesting that the video opens with [what we later learn is an ad for Brinks security] a guy in the bushes stalking a woman at home on her treadmill. He then breaks into her house.
Coincidence or excellent ad placement?
If you mean Ziegler, the jury decided she was a public figure, so he got away with it.
If you mean Ziegler’s boyparts, I imagine they’ve been pretty lonely.
You don’t think Shemp?
So, in Ziegler’s world view, marriage is between a man and a woman and their lawyers…every four or five years depending upon which codicile was more recently added to the contract, at which point you need to turn to paragraph z16 on page 90-gazillion and find the stipulation that ….well, I’ll let the snarkier among you speculate on the contents of a Ziegler marriage contract. Overwhelming family values there!
The bulk of the conservative movement is founded on the principal of being able to do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it, consequences be damned. That is wedded to a small contingent of authoritarians and theocrats and, voila, the modern GOP.
And am I the only one getting sick of listening to far right idealogues saying, “Oh, I’m not a republican, I’m a libertarian.”
I cannot think of a single woman I know who would not be creeped out by this guy. Ugh.
Some smart feller or another once said that the truth lies at the bottom of the bottle, and so when Ziegler suggested in the vid that they go for a drink, I thought O God, this oughta be good.
And Ziegler came through with flying colors. Most telling part, his claiming that although he’s just made a clearly misogynist remark, it isn’t really such, which is like saying that although he acts like a total prick, he’s really not.
Favorite part, his date’s correct observation, after summarily abandoning him to his drink and oblivion, that he is “in his own little world.” Sad, really, but he’s such an asshole, I just can’t muster up any pity. Well, maybe a little.