Comments on: Nancy Pelosi is the new Lynndie England http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/ "...a somewhat popular blogger" Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:18:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: moondancer http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32929 moondancer Sun, 17 May 2009 18:06:02 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32929 <p>Shorter village handicap: blue ribbon and/or congressional and/or truth hearing equals coverup and the end of the story.<br /> Independent or DOJ commission equals jail for bushco and ruin for the villagers that enabled them.<br /> Anybody taking bets on the outcome?</p> Shorter village handicap: blue ribbon and/or congressional and/or truth hearing equals coverup and the end of the story.
Independent or DOJ commission equals jail for bushco and ruin for the villagers that enabled them.
Anybody taking bets on the outcome?

]]> By: Splicer http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32928 Splicer Sun, 17 May 2009 18:04:53 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32928 <p>The only positive outcome I can see in all this is letting it play out. Pelosi backed into a corner may drive her to push for an investigation but I think the major motivating factor if this continues if for her to take as many with her as possible.</p> The only positive outcome I can see in all this is letting it play out. Pelosi backed into a corner may drive her to push for an investigation but I think the major motivating factor if this continues if for her to take as many with her as possible.

]]> By: sporkovat http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32927 sporkovat Sun, 17 May 2009 17:26:58 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32927 <p>ding a ding ding ding!</p> <p>really, Pelosi epitomizes Beltway rot, let her reap what she has sown.</p> <p>Netroots pushback in defense of these Washington Palidins, who have nothing but scorn for the grassroots is kind of ridiculous. Pelosi was ok with everything Cheney was doing at the time, while many here were strenuously speaking out, and sending them reams of faxes and letters and calls, to zilch effect.</p> <p>Its a sideshow - a way of avoiding having to pressure your Progressive President to appoint an independent commision to investigate, <em>investigate!</em> your favorite word! the torture era, and empower a special prosecutor to deal with the crimes uncovered, and to let the chips fall where they may.</p> ding a ding ding ding!

really, Pelosi epitomizes Beltway rot, let her reap what she has sown.

Netroots pushback in defense of these Washington Palidins, who have nothing but scorn for the grassroots is kind of ridiculous. Pelosi was ok with everything Cheney was doing at the time, while many here were strenuously speaking out, and sending them reams of faxes and letters and calls, to zilch effect.

Its a sideshow – a way of avoiding having to pressure your Progressive President to appoint an independent commision to investigate, investigate! your favorite word! the torture era, and empower a special prosecutor to deal with the crimes uncovered, and to let the chips fall where they may.

]]> By: shekissesfrogs http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32926 shekissesfrogs Sun, 17 May 2009 16:56:11 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32926 <p>That picture is priceless!</p> <p>Re: Splicer:</p> <blockquote> <p>It’s important to remember that in the “The Lottery”, Tessie Hutchinson presumably went along with the entire ritual willingly for years before suddenly coming to the realization that “It’s not fair”. Hmm… </p></blockquote> <p>What is happening here is that there are too many parties covering for each other, or keeping each other inline with threats.<br /> Do we know exactly what triggered the CIA to come out of the closet to blame Pelosi-and divert attention away from themselves? </p> <p>They have been divided and we should capitalize that on to single them out from the herd. Fear will cause them to start pointing at each other singing like songbirds to save their own asses. </p> <p>Politicians have been dividing the the public with their partisan bullshit for a centuries. Tear a page out of their machiavelli handbook and use it on them while a fissure has developed on the tumor that is them. We can’t give Pelosi a pass, but the attack has to include more targets, and by pressuring her she will lead the charge.<br /> The charge doesn’t have to be the truth, it just has to be loud, and have some elements of truth in it to get them to start defending themselves and talking….</p> That picture is priceless!

Re: Splicer:

It’s important to remember that in the “The Lottery”, Tessie Hutchinson presumably went along with the entire ritual willingly for years before suddenly coming to the realization that “It’s not fair”. Hmm…

What is happening here is that there are too many parties covering for each other, or keeping each other inline with threats.
Do we know exactly what triggered the CIA to come out of the closet to blame Pelosi-and divert attention away from themselves?

They have been divided and we should capitalize that on to single them out from the herd. Fear will cause them to start pointing at each other singing like songbirds to save their own asses.

Politicians have been dividing the the public with their partisan bullshit for a centuries. Tear a page out of their machiavelli handbook and use it on them while a fissure has developed on the tumor that is them. We can’t give Pelosi a pass, but the attack has to include more targets, and by pressuring her she will lead the charge.
The charge doesn’t have to be the truth, it just has to be loud, and have some elements of truth in it to get them to start defending themselves and talking….

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32925 eCAHNomics Sun, 17 May 2009 16:12:11 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32925 <p>What a jerk. What did Rumsfeld think he was accomplishing?</p> <p>Did you know that the Rumsfeld-Cheney Team B approach to governing goes back to the Ford administration? Flip to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/CIA-Culture-Failure-Intelligence-Invasion/dp/0804756015/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242576614&sr=1-1#reader" rel="nofollow">page 46 </a>here and read all about it.</p> What a jerk. What did Rumsfeld think he was accomplishing?

Did you know that the Rumsfeld-Cheney Team B approach to governing goes back to the Ford administration? Flip to page 46 here and read all about it.

]]> By: Splicer http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32924 Splicer Sun, 17 May 2009 16:06:01 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32924 <p>It’s important to remember that in the “The Lottery”, Tessie Hutchinson presumably went along with the entire ritual willingly for years before suddenly coming to the realization that “It’s not fair”. Hmm…</p> It’s important to remember that in the “The Lottery”, Tessie Hutchinson presumably went along with the entire ritual willingly for years before suddenly coming to the realization that “It’s not fair”. Hmm…

]]> By: Loo Hoo. http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32923 Loo Hoo. Sun, 17 May 2009 16:03:53 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32923 <p>It won’t dissapoint.</p> It won’t dissapoint.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32922 eCAHNomics Sun, 17 May 2009 15:56:29 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32922 <p>Rumsfeld’s is one of the few memoirs I might actually read. I’m curious as to how he’ll explain himself. The Draper article is really interesting. I’m just at the beginning.</p> Rumsfeld’s is one of the few memoirs I might actually read. I’m curious as to how he’ll explain himself. The Draper article is really interesting. I’m just at the beginning.

]]> By: KayInMaine http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32921 KayInMaine Sun, 17 May 2009 15:56:13 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32921 <p>And they will. This will prove to Americans that the republic party has completely lost it’s mind and are the barbarians we all thought they were! See? The right wing is still ridiculous in what they stand for and who they blame for what they support.</p> And they will. This will prove to Americans that the republic party has completely lost it’s mind and are the barbarians we all thought they were! See? The right wing is still ridiculous in what they stand for and who they blame for what they support.

]]> By: tehcatlady http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32920 tehcatlady Sun, 17 May 2009 15:54:39 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/nancy-pelosi-is-the-new-lynndie-england/#comment-32920 <p>Amen.</p> Amen.

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