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I fail to see where the portion of Goodman’s prose quoted by this wide-screen projector fits her statement about the “poor me school” of “whining atheists”. The WATB here is this particular god botherer, and she can kindly go fuck herself.

I fall into the agnostic camp I suppose, but more shit like this and I’ll be signing up with the atheists in no time.

The best part is that the whingeing gasbag is leaning on English pomo Marxist Terry Eagleton for support.

What strange bedfellows Anti-atheist Screeching Syndrome produces.

Sleepwalking in her own Fantasy, Charlotte un-holstered her Label Gun and blasted us with the negative of her inflexibly rigid belief system…

I can’t stand atheists — but it’s not because they don’t believe in God.

Shorter remainder of column [whine grumble whine I hate atheists because they don’t believe in God]

It would shatter their egos if they knew that most of us atheists really don’t spend any time thinking about what bothers them. It’s curious, though, how much of their own time they spend thinking about us.

When they’re not thinking about the gays (and all the sex the gays have in Technigaylor Gaynavision GayDolby ), they’re thinking about the atheists.

I am impressed by the logic and reason of her analysis. I hereby renounce my atheism. Anybody got a good religion I can join?

Where can I sign up for the flogging she mentions?

”So, atheists, how about losing the tired sarcasm and boring self-pity and engaging believers seriously?”

No thanks, you idiotic gasbag, because there is nothing to engage.

If you believe in a collection of the quasi-historical, lunatic ravings of a bunch of Bronze Age desert nomads that describe an all-powerful intergalactic space-daddy who sent himself to die 2000 years ago to appease himself, slightly mitigating his misogynist, racist, homophobic and genocidal tendencies with a little Iron Age Kumbaya philosophy, and hasn’t done anything demonstrable since then…well, let’s just say that we believe it’s you that has the problem.

so the problem with athiests is that they’re reductive and dismissive and stereotype people who aren’t like them?

Would that be, like, all of them?

What — did their Sunday school teachers flog their behinds with a Bible when they were kids?

Why is he so interested in what god-botherers did with kids behinds?

Yeah I see swarms of atheists all over the third world exploiting the savages, spreading disease and Mormon Capitalism, baptising and martyring the masses. We would have Eden on earth, instead of hell, if it wasn’t for the true believers.

@comsympinko

What a succinct summary of their belief system. You’re my new hero.

Charlotte, this does not seem very christian. I’d tell you to go to hell, but I don’t believe in it. So, just blow it out your ass. Other than that, what comsympinko said.

I’ve actually tried engaging believers seriously, which is damned hard when you think about it because they as a class don’t know shit and are proud of it. You take your asinine beliefs and I’ll take my telescopes and we’ll both be happy.

Atheists are speaking up more now than ever in my lifetime, and it really bothers her.

“”What — did their Sunday school teachers flog their behinds with a Bible when they were kids?”"

Well, some were cornholed by pedophile priests, but I guess it would be tacky to mention that, so, nevermind.

But, if God created the universe, then He created sarcasm and self-pity, so, by losing them, wouldn’t we be doing God a disservice?

A question posed we will never, ever see answered:

So, atheists, true believers, how about losing the tired sarcasm holier-than-thou attitude and boring self- pity righteousness and engaging believers religious skeptics seriously?

I appreciate Charlotte’s kind, loving, and welcoming attitude to those she wishes to join her faith. She’s really showing us Christians behavior. With people of faith like her, it’s no wonder others leave the church.

“It would shatter their egos if they knew that most of us atheists really don’t spend any time thinking about what bothers them.”

Exactly. Atheists I’ve known have no interest in discussing religion. Other than “keep your religion out of my politics”, the subject bores them. Though I’m not an atheist, I couldn’t agree more. Religion is one of those subjects I refuse to discuss. You believe what you want; I’ll believe what I want. Period.

It’s been my experience that smart and educated believers usually don’t care about “engaging” with atheists. Ditto for smart and educated atheists “engaging” with believers. They all know that there’s about zero potential for changing each others’ beliefs.

This cracked me up:

The problem with atheists — and what makes them such excruciating snoozes — is that few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God’s existence, or in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God’s omniscience with free will or God’s goodness with human suffering.

Heh heh. Atheists have no right to not believe in God until they’ve studied theology at the university level and refuted all the serious arguments attempting to reconcile belief in God with reality. Because we all know that anybody sitting in a church or temple, or bargaining desperately in their heads with their image of a deity while waiting for the surgeon to enter the waiting room, has mastered all aspects of theology. They would be such snoozes if they couldn’t effectively debate Hitchens, Dawkins and Dennett.

I read that link to the ‘Women are Stoopid’ article. This woman is truly unbelievable, and the article has a question and answer link that only nettles me more. She has certainly learned self-promotion, but I for one will never reward her with my attention again.

“I am NOT the Messiah!”

“I say you are Lord, and I should know. I’ve followed a few.”

Nobody whines more about how persecuted they are than the fundies. The fact that atheists are the demographic with the least likelihood of being elected to office (based on polling data), I would say the latter actually have a point about the whole discrimination thing. That whole column is one massive piece of projection.

few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God’s existence

a) because there are none
b) isn’t “faith” supposed to be a big element of your particular belief system?

in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God’s omniscience with free will or God’s goodness with human suffering

“Serious”. You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

Shorter Charlotte Allen: WAAAAAAAH! Non-Christian Americans are complaining about their second-class citizenship status again!

What a whining, over-projecting, narrow minded, bigot.

Bless her heart.

…few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God’s existence, or in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God’s omniscience with free will or God’s goodness with human suffering.

The preposterous knots theologians tie themselves in to reconcile free will, omniscience, God’s “goodness” (oy) and human suffering pretty much DON’T require an equally elaborate mythology to spring up in opposition to them.

The counterargument is much, much, much simpler: Yeah. OK. And even if you’re right, what then?

If God’s so fucking mystical and mysterious and His Will so complex, indirect and impossible to divine — indeed, entire religions have dodged the entire question with the idea that His Will is so irreducibly complicated it’s not really for mere humans to question it, but rather submit to whatever it may be — why, then, can’t we just take God out of the equation? He’s not giving us answers anyway.

Well, I guess after that word-lashing it’s back to the Catholic church for me. I mean, who can resist that sort of reasoning, the airtight argument, the profundity of statement.

I’m sorry God, please forgive me and send me one million dollars, cash only, and I’ll be back in a pew on my knees hoping against hope I don’t moulder in my grave, but instead spend all of eternity drinking cold beer boinking hot chicks and never, ever losing a game of chess again.

Thanks God, your loyal servant, HB.

Heh, isn’t there a country song about “ice cold women and red-hot beer” bein’, you know, hell.

I’m thinking David Allen Coe.

Charlotte needs to get laid.

The problem with atheists — and what makes them such excruciating snoozes — is that few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God’s existence, or in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God’s omniscience with free will or God’s goodness with human suffering.

What? I’m sorry, this atheist nearly fell into a coma trying to read that sentence. Excruciating snooze, indeed.

Some one explain to Charlotte the problem with trying to prove that something _doesn’t_ exist. The ball is in her court.

“At the American Atheists website, a writer complains that God “set up” Adam and Eve, knowing in advance that they would eat the forbidden fruit.”

Er, does she even read the stuff she wrote? The writer at American Atheist doesn’t believe in God, so this had to be intended as a joke, or a satirical comment on the genesis myth.

“And then there’s the question of why atheists are so intent on trying to prove that God not only doesn’t exist but is evil to boot. Dawkins, writing in “The God Delusion,” accuses the deity of being a “petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak” as well as a “misogynistic, homophobic, racist … bully.” If there is no God — and you’d be way beyond stupid to think differently — why does it matter whether he’s good or evil?”

Dawkins doesn’t believe in God either. When he says this stuff about God, he is making the point that the Bible, the Koran and others were written by men. And I do mean men, as in they were all male.

I’m sorry. I can’t accept your rejection of belief in the orishas of Santeria doctrine until you have addressed Ricky Ricardo’s serious homage to Babalu-Aye in his signature song.

There’s only one way to respond to such nonsense:

I am rubber, you are glue, it bounces off me, and sticks to you.

Also, this kind of nonsense is why the LA Times is bankrupt and headed for the ash heap of history, I hope sooner rather than later but it’s coming…

Has Charlotte Allen put together what GHWB would call “Big Mo,” by penning a screed about women who are atheists? I would pay big money to watch her debate Katha Pollitt, or just wrestle with her in a giant wading pool filled with chocolate pudding. But my money would be on Pollitt.

Here I thought I was reading an article complaining about some religious asshole whining about Teh War on Xmas again.

This kinda thing is why I prefer being a member of the Church of Shakira’s Ass.

That’s a religion I can really get behind.

Wow, I had missed this important sub-text to “I Love Lucy” entirely. Not only that, I just found out that the puffy shirt episode of Seinfeld is a reference to Pastafarianism.

I’m afraid that TVLand is too far over my head. I better stick with Nickelodeon.

Ya gotta see Breitblart’s incredibly passive-aggressive mea culpa for flipping off child soldier protesters over at sadlyno.com.

Shorter:

I wuz so right those goddamn dirty mother fucking hippies interrupting my afternoon beachside drink and raising their fists all black powerish would have been the most unforgiveable thing EVAH if they had been like protesting teh us army Iraq genocide except they weren’t they were like protesting a whole nother genocide done by black folks in Africa one man’s genocide is another man’s freedom party oops my bad here’s the link to try and stop the bad genocide kthxbai.

Worst. Apology. Ever.

My favorite part is where his wife was dying of embarassment because he intuited hate and black power metareferences from a bunch of kids protesting child slavery and steeled himself bravely to appear on the cover of the LA Times bravely holding his finger up because the little bastards interrupted his early-afternoon tequila drinking.

That was indeed priceless. You can’t take that guy anywhere!

“Charlotte Allen is the author of “The Human Christ: The Search for the Historical Jesus” “

I wonder if she took the stake out of his heart when she found him.

Psychosis has many forms but none are so amusing than the psychotic using every form of communication possible to convince themselves and the world that they are not nuts and in fact arcanely correct. Ritualistic behavior marks the territory.

the psychotic using every form of communication possible to convince themselves and the world that they are not nuts and in fact arcanely correct.

As Mother Avenger put it, the crazy person thinks they’re sane, and it’s the rest of the world that’s gone nuts.

Truly, there is no one more interesting than someone who will pound out long-winded, repetitive diatribes about how excruciatingly boring other people are. The insistence that debating theological minutiae would serve to make those boring people interesting is just a lagniappe.