Earlier in the week playboy.com published an online story by Guy Cimbalo called So Right it’s Wrong wherein Guy advances his top ten list of conservative women he would like to "hatefuck". Within hours, following complaints, Playboy pulled the story because, you might say, they realized that they went a fuck too far. Now hatefucking is not to be confused with "angry sex", "make-up sex", or even "your hot mom is the Governor sex" (Alaska only); it’s about power and violence and misogyny, although I asked around to several youthful acquaintances of mine and their iunderstanding falls more in line with what I thought it was as well Amelia’s interpretation. But, whatever, we’re well past that discussion now. Anyway it will come as no surprise that not too many people defended So Right It’s Wrong outside of a few random "free speech gives Cimbalo the right to be a douchebag" posts.
Under normal circumstances this would be yesterdays news with post published, then pulled, outrage vented and then we move on to the next intertubular fist-shaking blogasm. But no controversy these days is worth it’s weight in bloggy-clicks without a good conspiracy theory that allows bloggers big and small to play citizen journamalist.
Back when our story began, AOL blogger Tommy Christopher (who is AOL’s likeable liberal by virtue of the fact that he has been "featured on Bill O’Reilly, Hot Air, Red State, The College Politico, The Daily Kos, The Huffington Post, and even NewsBusters") posted on the hatefuck list, came up with something called the "bro code" (an internet tradition that Playboy was apparently not aware of. Nor was I), unleashed the awesome unstoppable power of the DeathTwitter upon Playboy, then wrote a mash note to the Conservative women he would totally respect in the morning after some sweet TommyX-lovin’, did the twitter victory dance…. and then he got fired by AOL.
Enter the dragon rabbit.
The evidence is stacking up quite high that AOL News fired liberal writer Tommy Christopher today due to his repeated attempts to get coverage of the Playboy attack list on AOL’s Politics Daily. Christopher had first attempted to post this criticism of Playboy’s sick list the day it was published on their website. However, he was surprised to find that shortly after putting his article on Politics Daily it was deleted by an editor.
His surprise stemmed from the fact that in his two years of writing for the site not one other post had ever been deleted by an editor.
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As Christopher notes in the statement he released to NewsBusters he was a productive and successful writer for AOL. He is a well respected, widely read, and widely linked writer. His stories and opinions have been featured on Bill O’Reilly, Hot Air, Red State, The College Politico, The Daily Kos, The Huffington Post, and even NewsBusters. It seems highly unlikely that AOL fired him for lack of performance and it is important to note that nobody has claimed that as of now.
With all of this it seems that coincidental timing is an extremely hard sell for why Tommy Christopher was fired by AOL News today. It appears that Christopher was intent on covering a story which he found to be particularly important but that Aol News had "internally decided" was off limits.
Has the fact that AOL’s parent company, Time Warner, has a business relationship with Playboy affected their editorial decisions? After all Time Warner is a major national distributor of Playboy TV through their cable company.
Tommy has been a friend for quite a while, and a semi-regular guest on my daily show. He and I do not agree on most topics, but Tommy is a good opinion journalist and one of AOL’s few that actually does traditional reporting. He goes into Washington DC on his own to attend White House press briefings, occasionally getting to ask a question and providing first-person reporting for AOL-PD. That seems to me to be a valuable commodity for any political website, a marker of relevance that one does not lightly toss aside.
Many people do not know that AOL has actually conducted a massive turnover in its staff under new editor Melinda Hennenberger. Our friends Caleb Howe and Mark Impomeni have also gotten their walking papers more than two weeks ago. Both are good, solid writers, and brought a conservative perspective to AOL-PD that now the terrific Matt Lewis has to provide all on his own. Tommy could have been part of that revamping, but he appeared to have survived it — and again, why get rid of someone who has a spot inside the White House?
Wheels within wheels, man.
But wait. We already know that Caleb Howe was fired ( and that was even before this). And then Denise Williams was sacked. And Diana Winkley. And Caleb popped up to say:
@CalebHowe – yeah we all got shitcanned.
So, what the hell? It’s like the Axis of AOL/Playboy/EmmEssEmm are killing off everybody just like those altar-humping guys in the Da Vinci Code except this is about keeping the secret that… Playboy objectifies women.
Obviously these bloggers are unaware of the fact that You. Don’t. Fuck. With. The. Bunny or you can kiss your bloggy career goodbye. Although it would be cool if Hef sent out Playmate ninja assasination teams to kill you which would be much more awesomer to tell your friends than having to admit that you got let go by AOL. I mean, who hasn’t?
So how does our conspiracy story end? Not with a fingerbang, but with a whimper.
Jason Linkins, HuffPo:
MORE UPDATES: Melinda Henneberger, at last, responds:
Does it make a lick of sense to you that I would fire anyone for standing up for women, or for taking on that disgusting story in Playboy? [ED. NOTE: Uhm...no, Melinda, it doesn't, which is sort of why I asked the question!] The bloggers for the old AOL site, Political Machine, weren’t retained for the new site, Politics Daily, which has only been in existence for the last five weeks, and which we’re just staffing up. Sorry so dull, but there’s nothing more to it than that.
Um, oh. Well, uh, that’s…. different. Okay.
Hey! I bet you didn’t know that the EmmEssEmm is hiding the fact that Muslim Obama likes foreign terrorist condiments! It’s true! This guy I know twittered about this other twitterer who retweeted this girl’s tweet about this thing that she saw YouTube that totally got taken down and disappeared.
Wheels within wheels, man…
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do not fuck with the bunny!
hey tbogg
We already have a word for that anyway…it’s called “rape.”
yup – must be a republican term – they are always renaming things
Hot damn! I want me one of those Playmate ninja assasination teams. Got a couple of targets in mind who would be easy marks for them.
You do not fuck the bunny. They bunny fucks you.
I have to say that I had never heard the term until this came up and certainly still cannot wrap my head around the idea. I have never met anyone whom I hated and wanted to fuck. Pretty much the reverse in fact.
i wonder if their victims die with a smile on their face
bet they have great uniforms
You. Don’t. Fuck. With. The. Bunny
well – duh.
didn’t most of us learn that in kindergarten?
vicious little buggers….
Doesn’t surprise me. I didn’t figure you for the serial-rapist type.
My late father told me that if I was going to get mad at stupid people for saying stupid things, I would never have any time left to not get mad. Had he lived to see the advent of blogs, he would have realized that this isn’t a bug, it’s a profession.
I have never met anyone whom I hated and wanted to fuck.
You are so obviously not a lawyer. *g*
Am I smelling the male equivalent of Ann Althouse here? Does he come with a box wine accessory?
wat
No, it’s not rape just because you’re not married, bro.
Yeah. I am depressingly normal and pretty well adjusted that way. No serious kinks or twists.
LOL.
There is a difference between wanting to fuck and wanting to fuck over. I will enthusiastically admit to the latter.
Gee, I thought “hatefuck” referred to situations like the following… Guess I was misinformed.
But then the Republicans fuck themselves over again and deprive you of the pleasure.
if i am remembering correctly, there were whispers of the bunny mafia and the power welded by hefner back in the early 70
or my brain cells could be totally misfiring
I suspect that is the normal experience of most of these Republican males.
That actually provides and extra yummy load of schadenfreude.
Hef is a University of Illinois alum, part of our contribution to Western Civilization.
The following Dangerfield quote likely also applies to Republicans.
And started the Evil Bunny Empire in Chicago. Same as Barack Hussein MalcolmX Obama Hitler Stalin. Coincidence? I think not!
I suspect that is the normal experience of most of these Republican males.
Is that where the term “pay to play” comes from?
Wow, this is a weird fucking thread.
I was going to tell you guys a cute story about how we went to the Santa Monica pier today and even though it was, like, drizzling in the Valley, it was absolutely warm and sunnily perfect at the beach. And, how when we got to one end of the pier to have some beer, that the Los Angeles Acoustic Festival was there. Big ass stage and fenced in seating and everything. And, how we got to listen to the concert for free instead of paying, I swear $75 or $85, by drinking beer and eating cheeseburgers on the outdoor patio of the restaurant next store. And, how even though any kind of professional live music is fabulous, we had to leave after the sixth Kingston Trio (really them) song because it was just too much like “A Mighty Wind”. But, damn, I’m just not sure that story is appropriate for this Saturday night thread.
I do believe…
Are you saying that Obama was Hef’s hare apparent?
Anything is always appropriate in the Late Night threads. Cool story.
when i saw the word “hatefuck” all i could think of is sex with ann coulter
i feel dirty
LOL!
Thanks. My I take a bow?
Just thinking about Coulter at all makes me feel dirty. The sex thing make me feel ill.
But of course, my dear.
Well, it wasn’t that I hated their music, but I definitely did not want to fuck them. *g*
My guess is Kingston Trio groupies are increasingly rare.
Howdy TBogg. Evening pups.
I suspect this is not the original iteration of the group either. My father was a big fan and they would have to be in their 80s.
My guess is Kingston Trio groupies are increasingly rare.
I’m too old for their shows now.
It’s all the slam-dancing, I’m pretty sure….
Hi Betsy. Help yourself to a burger.
Haven’t heard the term “hatefuck” before and without reading the links it seems on the surface to be a violent expression aimed at women. I’m sure it’s far more subtle and nuanced and all that..
But AOL?
WTF?
I would be amazed to learn that AOL still exists, except that a few clients (who are like, internet clueless) have .aol email addresses. Poor, pathetic souls.
And Playboy? Are you kidding me? People still buy that? (For the articles of course.)
I am just totally out of touch.
From their wiki entry.
Correct again, Doctor.
From wiki:
The original Trio consisted of Dave Guard, Bob Shane and Nick Reynolds. John Stewart replaced Guard in 1961 and although the group disbanded in the late 60s, it was reformed shortly thereafter and continues to perform, although with none of the original members.
I will admit I sang along on Where Have All The Flowers Gone.
Diet Pepsi, please.
Unlike the Doctor, you are uncorrect.
Sorry.
Straight up? Sliding one down the bar.
Thank ya, thank ya very much…
you just never caught the really underground shows….
There was something kinda kinky about their matching shirts.
LOL! A burger even a vegetarian could love!
And all those close harmonies….
My older brothers had every single Kingston Trio album along with Peter, Paul & Mary, Chad Mitchell trio etc.
Also Phil Ochs (Draft Dodger Rag.) Great music from Ochs, but a tragic story.
And yes, “A Mighty Wind” is TOO funny. I was born in 1956, but thanks to older siblings was immersed in that scene until The Beatles hit.
Thanks to my father, I was also a fan in the 50s and early 60s. Moved on to the harder stuff: Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez, Leonard Cohen, Pete Seeger.
You should take a look at their other novelties. Amazing stuff.
Time for me to head out. Splendid evening to all.
Night. Think I depart as well. Meds for my gout make me spacey and sleepy. Take care all.
Picking and grinning (way too much).
G’nite ratfood. & Dr D.
One of my favorite Joni quotes, from Miles of Aisles (as memory serves) on the difference between fine art and the performing arts… “I’ll bet nobody ever yelled at Van Gogh, ‘Paint A Starry Night again, man!’”
G’night you two. (Leaving at the same time? Is there something you want to share with us?)
Joni Mitchell is still a favorite of mine; “Mingus” (1979) was exceptional, but disliked by a lot of the jazz folks because she was able to sell records. “Travelogue” (2002) is really beautiful and disliked by some because of the orchestration. But she’s always moved forward, to the sound of her inner “drummer.”
hah! Nite rf.
I’ve never heard the term hatefuck.
What do you call a line of rabbits walking backwards?
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A receding hare line……..
Hellwoa.
waving g’nite to any of the leaving sleepy pups i may have missed – sorry, was busy backstage
katy, i see your sense of humor is totally recovered
how many rabbits does it take to make chocolate chip cookies?
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Two… one to stir the bowl and one to squeeze the rabbit……
What? Wait. You’re not aware of all internet traditions?
I am so disappointed.
Oh, and hatefuck? I probably shouldn’t confess this on a public blog but that would be what I want to do to Dick Cheney’s anus. (Sorry about that image kids. I have some extra brain bleach if you need.)
I need more than brain bleach. Total amnesia would be a good start.
You. Don’t. Fuck. With. The. Bunny
It”ll go medieval on you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCI18qAoKq4
and there is this evil bunny.
Ask “Jimmah” Carter about the bunny. I believe he has a couple of remarkable memories re: The Bunny!
Let’s not forget Bun-Bun
don’t be a telemarketer around him. He’s also got some issues with Santa Claus.
“I met her on the mountain, there I took her life.
Met her on the mountain, stabbed her with my knife.”
Hatefolk.
Who is Amelia talking about here? A girlfriend, no doubt. It’s not the same thing. Never has been, never will be. Male and female approaches to sex and power are considerably different.
I knew a misogynist who “hate fucked” every female he slept with and every one of them felt violated and in need of several showers afterwards. His brutality and carelessness wasn’t what they’d consented to.
What stable, well adjusted person consents to being hate fucked? And what man who hate fucks makes a grand pronouncement that that’s what he’s about to do? Get real.
When it comes to sex, younger women too often don’t have a fucking clue what they’re talking about.
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Plenty of liberal, so called ‘enlightened’ men commenting in blogs have said variations of what this Playboy writer has said about women on the right. Which just proves that women still have their work cut out for them.
That’s what it is, all right. By any other name, the violence is the same.
You must be old like me.
anyone who’s been around a chick recently knows that they can hatefuck dudes too. It happens all the time. Also, Chicks can hatefuck other chicks and of course dudes can hatefuck other dudes. Whats the big deal?
Playboy objectifies women.
That’s all it takes to get a ‘Dramatic Prairie Dog’ anymore? Standards have really fallen around this joint.
Doesn’t surprise me. hehe, like this site said: vbuyol (doc) com