What!?And all this time I thought Junior Murvin was a pseudonym for one of the Bee Gees.

As for the rest of your argument, I think SufferingBruin already gave a great response.I’ll just add that your being far too generous in your defense of narrow minded American punks, whose parochialism culminated in the dead end sludge of Grunge.British punk,on the other hand, kicked off a glorious twenty years of inspired indie rock.Thus we got New Order,punk funk (the guys in Gang of Four just loved “Forget Me Not” by Patrice Rush),and the indie/dance fusion of Madchester to name just a few highlights.All of wich shares a love of dance music.

So some disco sucked.What’s your point?Allot of punk sucked too.Including just about everything The Clash did after their first album.How a band can go from “Janie Jones” and “What’s My Name” to cringe worthy crap like “Lost In The Supermarket” is a mystery.

I will not back down from defending good disco cheese like Moroder and KC.KC not only gave us the fun “Boogie Man”,he produced the glorious “Rock Your Baby”.For that alone he has my loyalty.It’s easy and predictable to say you dig P-Funk(who doesnt?), I know your real when you blasting “There But For The Grace of God” by Machine or “Grooveline” by Heatwave.Theres a reason these riffs and beats are endlessly sampled:their fucking brilliant.

I know I probably speak for others when I say that I’m really looking forward to going twenty-four hours without hearing the name “Michael Jackson”.

You sure speak for me!! I am sick, sick, SICK of Michael Jackson! The “tributes” and airwave time make one think Desmond Tutu has died.

Worst of all was that MSNBC gave over TWO NIGHTS of time that could have been Keith & Rachel’s to blather on. Crap, if folks want to get hysterical re Michael Jackson, switch the channel to MTV.

KC was white, but the band was one white guy and seven decidedly not-white guys.

And I wish I still has the college-paper interview from the ’70s in which David Byrne raved about Donna Summer’s “I Feel Love,” which was Giorgio Moroder’s work.

Disco sucked some of the time. Often it didn’t. And it’s still with us. Like LCD Soundsystem? You’re soaking in it.

So please spare us the “a-feared of the jungle music” put-downs.

No, I don’t think we will.

I was a teen during the punk years and while there were smart punks like you and T who knew that all black music wasn’t disco, there were many, many, many punks who did not know the difference and did not give a shit to learn the difference. I remember listening to funk and soul and being written off as a disco clown by punks who frankly should have known better than to fuck with me. Punk was “us against them” with them being anybody who wasn’t a punk and people who weren’t punks were usually of a darker pigment and listening to the Gap Band, Dazz Band, Hot Chocolate, Parliament and of course, Funkadelic. And all of those bands were written off by the punks as disco. Maybe not by you, JoeMax, but by plenty of others.

i try not to begrudge those who hate disco. when popular culture latched onto it and tried to make a buck some truly awful music was made, but at the same time disco productions of the late 70’s were truly the high water mark of studio production and if you dig for the underground cuts played at the black gay clubs where disco never died there is some truly life changing music.

challenge your preconceived notions about music, mr. bogg. people change and so do their tastes. i used to hate bananas, man!

By 1976 I was hanging around in San Francisco clubs listening to nascent punk bands. By 1977 I was playing in one.

@BillFM: “The Clash too often embarassed themselves trying to pick up it’s vibe(do you really want to listen to the Clash do Police and Thieves?).If you read about the early days of punk you will find the key players stomping at gay clubs and expressing nothing but contempt for “Rock”.”

The “rock” we had contempt for was corporate “FM” rock the likes of REO Speedwagon, Styx and Kansas. And yes, we stomped around “gay clubs” long before it was “hip”. As far as tracks like “Police and Thieves” go, that was Reggae/Ska, and punks were also on that bandwagon long before it pulled up to the “mainstream”. So please spare us the “a-feared of the jungle music” put-downs. Disco was the WHITEwahsed brainchild of blitheringly Caucasian producers like Geogio Moroder and Neil Bogart, or have we forgotten Lipps Inc, Wild Cherry and KC and the Sunshine band?

Disco was to Black music in the 1970s what Pat Boone was to Black music in the 1960s: sanitized funk/R&B for white cubicle drones to get drunk and shake their booties to.