Comments on: Here we are now, entertain us http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/ \"...a somewhat popular blogger\" Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:39:29 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: moondancer http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39393 moondancer Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:33:19 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39393 <p>There are serious people, people who really know this stuff that are ambivalent about public option. They like the plan as Sebelius outlined better.<br /> The reasoning is a public option could and would be filleted by the next gooper outlaw with a congressional posse. The above Sebelius thingy would be really hard to mess with. Makes one wonder on how good these guys really are if that was the plan all along. Food for thought.</p> There are serious people, people who really know this stuff that are ambivalent about public option. They like the plan as Sebelius outlined better.
The reasoning is a public option could and would be filleted by the next gooper outlaw with a congressional posse. The above Sebelius thingy would be really hard to mess with. Makes one wonder on how good these guys really are if that was the plan all along. Food for thought.

]]> By: Lesley http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39367 Lesley Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:40:05 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39367 <p>DailyKos yesterday told liberals who were angry with Obama for backing down to shut the fuck up.</p> <p>The tune has <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/17/768155/-President-Obama-backs-off-the-public-option" rel="nofollow">since changed</a> in light of the fact that the Obama administration is pouring weaker tea by the minute.</p> DailyKos yesterday told liberals who were angry with Obama for backing down to shut the fuck up.

The tune has since changed in light of the fact that the Obama administration is pouring weaker tea by the minute.

]]> By: Lesley http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39366 Lesley Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:24:10 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39366 <p>Dennis, Americans need to flood the Whitehouse with messages supporting the public option. If the majority of Americans want public health care, now is the time to show up and say so.</p> Dennis, Americans need to flood the Whitehouse with messages supporting the public option. If the majority of Americans want public health care, now is the time to show up and say so.

]]> By: DennisSGMM http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39365 DennisSGMM Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:44:50 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39365 <p>I’ll believe in a robust, viable, public option on the very day that it becomes reality.</p> I’ll believe in a robust, viable, public option on the very day that it becomes reality.

]]> By: Lesley http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39364 Lesley Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:44:45 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39364 <p>Perusing Raw Story this morning, I see they’re about to release a story about <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/24/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant/" rel="nofollow">crazier than a bed bug Ted Nugent</a>. Can’t wait to see what the idiot is up to. Maybe he shot himself with one of his machine guns. Crossing fingers.</p> Perusing Raw Story this morning, I see they’re about to release a story about crazier than a bed bug Ted Nugent. Can’t wait to see what the idiot is up to. Maybe he shot himself with one of his machine guns. Crossing fingers.

]]> By: DennisSGMM http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39363 DennisSGMM Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:41:23 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39363 <p><em>“If lt bleeds, it leads” is killing us all…</em><br /> I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that cable news when given the options of becoming deeper and more thorough or becoming shallow and sensationalistic chose the latter. It is surprising that cable news journos lack either the integrity or the common sense to call out the nutjobs, frauds and phonies on the right. Instead of saying something like, “Good God, you ran the country into the ground and you were wrong on every single thing!” when interviewing, say, Gingrich, of Cantor or Boehner or McCain, they instead nod sagely and act as though the garbage spewing from these cretins’ mouths should be given just as much weight as the ideas of any sane politician.<br /> In other news, Michael Jackson remains dead.</p> “If lt bleeds, it leads” is killing us all…
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that cable news when given the options of becoming deeper and more thorough or becoming shallow and sensationalistic chose the latter. It is surprising that cable news journos lack either the integrity or the common sense to call out the nutjobs, frauds and phonies on the right. Instead of saying something like, “Good God, you ran the country into the ground and you were wrong on every single thing!” when interviewing, say, Gingrich, of Cantor or Boehner or McCain, they instead nod sagely and act as though the garbage spewing from these cretins’ mouths should be given just as much weight as the ideas of any sane politician.
In other news, Michael Jackson remains dead.

]]> By: Lesley http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39362 Lesley Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:35:01 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39362 <p>The Whitehouse <a href="http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/16/gibbs-white-house-still-supports-public-option/" rel="nofollow">refuted news reports</a> on Sunday.</p> <blockquote> <p>Speaking to CBS News’ Face the Nation on Sunday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs emphasized that President Barack Obama still supports having a “public option” for health care, which the White House believes will introduce additional competition and lower prices in the insurance market.</p> <p>The statement runs contrary to claims by other officials and reports circulating other media on Sunday.</p></blockquote> <p>Unfortunately, Republicans picked up mixed messages from a couple of Democrats, turned it into Obama’s changed his mind and the media - being the lazy shits they are - ran with it. As per…</p> <blockquote> <p>Heath and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, speaking to CNN’s John King on Sunday, said the public option is not “essential” and that consumer choice, market competition and reform of private health insurance regulations should be the focus of the debate.</p> <p>Later Sunday, Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) told Fox News anchor Chris Wallace that the U.S. Senate will not allow a public option, adding his belief that, “to continue to chase that rabbit is just a wasted effort.”</p> <p>The comments led the Associated Press and right-wing news aggregator Matt Drudge to report the White House has given up on supporting a public option. </p></blockquote> The Whitehouse refuted news reports on Sunday.

Speaking to CBS News’ Face the Nation on Sunday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs emphasized that President Barack Obama still supports having a “public option” for health care, which the White House believes will introduce additional competition and lower prices in the insurance market.

The statement runs contrary to claims by other officials and reports circulating other media on Sunday.

Unfortunately, Republicans picked up mixed messages from a couple of Democrats, turned it into Obama’s changed his mind and the media – being the lazy shits they are – ran with it. As per…

Heath and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, speaking to CNN’s John King on Sunday, said the public option is not “essential” and that consumer choice, market competition and reform of private health insurance regulations should be the focus of the debate.

Later Sunday, Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) told Fox News anchor Chris Wallace that the U.S. Senate will not allow a public option, adding his belief that, “to continue to chase that rabbit is just a wasted effort.”

The comments led the Associated Press and right-wing news aggregator Matt Drudge to report the White House has given up on supporting a public option.

]]> By: DrDick http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39359 DrDick Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:03:58 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39359 <p>I think their mamas dropped them on their heads as infants. From a thirt floor window. Repeatedly.</p> I think their mamas dropped them on their heads as infants. From a thirt floor window. Repeatedly.

]]> By: moondancer http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39358 moondancer Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:53:18 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39358 <p>Hey, look at me. I’m an existential terrorist. Cosmopolitan no less. Wingnuts and their media stooges, why I oughta…</p> Hey, look at me. I’m an existential terrorist. Cosmopolitan no less. Wingnuts and their media stooges, why I oughta…

]]> By: asiangrrlMN http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39357 asiangrrlMN Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:26:18 +0000 http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/08/15/here-we-are-now-entertain-us/#comment-39357 <p>This, of course, should say, even more, but it makes a weird kind of sense the first way I typed it.</p> <p>I am heartbroken over the newest development re: WH reportedly ready to give up on the public option, but I am holding back to see if it’s indeed true or if it’s more media spin. I am hoping it’s the latter.</p> <p><b>DrDick</b>, I know you are right. I just don’t understand how anyone can be that stupid and/or gullible past the age of eighteen.</p> This, of course, should say, even more, but it makes a weird kind of sense the first way I typed it.

I am heartbroken over the newest development re: WH reportedly ready to give up on the public option, but I am holding back to see if it’s indeed true or if it’s more media spin. I am hoping it’s the latter.

DrDick, I know you are right. I just don’t understand how anyone can be that stupid and/or gullible past the age of eighteen.

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