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	<title>Comments on: Tom Tancredo is very touchy about his war sad</title>
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		<title>By: brantl</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44944</link>
		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if he was actually suffering from depression, this is not something to be high-fiving each other over. Mental illness is not a fucking joke.

Tancredo is a freaking joke. I hope this asshole never gets any more airtime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if he was actually suffering from depression, this is not something to be high-fiving each other over. Mental illness is not a fucking joke.</p>
<p>Tancredo is a freaking joke. I hope this asshole never gets any more airtime.</p>
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		<title>By: MrsTarquinBiscuitbarrel</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44754</link>
		<dc:creator>MrsTarquinBiscuitbarrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly, donnah, great catch.  Also a heads-up as to TT ever actually lived with depression.  It&#039;s awfully easy to pooh-pooh health care for maladies that one never has had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly, donnah, great catch.  Also a heads-up as to TT ever actually lived with depression.  It&#8217;s awfully easy to pooh-pooh health care for maladies that one never has had.</p>
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		<title>By: montana</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44735</link>
		<dc:creator>montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great catch.</p>
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		<title>By: donnah</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44727</link>
		<dc:creator>donnah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the website &quot;On the Issues&quot;, there is this item about Tancredo:

Voted NO on giving mental health full equity with physical health. (Mar 2008)

and this; Prohibit mandatory mental health screen for students. (May 2007)

I guess his strong feelings about mental health care kind of faded after his deferment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the website &#8220;On the Issues&#8221;, there is this item about Tancredo:</p>
<p>Voted NO on giving mental health full equity with physical health. (Mar 2008)</p>
<p>and this; Prohibit mandatory mental health screen for students. (May 2007)</p>
<p>I guess his strong feelings about mental health care kind of faded after his deferment.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDick</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44721</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  What matters is whether you act in accordance with your stated convictions.  If you are a militaristic hawk, then you damned well better have served if you had the opportunity or else have had a much better excuse than &quot;depression&quot; or an boil on your butt.

I am not mocking mental illness here (I have fought my own demons in the past), but this was one of the easiest cadges for doctors writing letters at that time as it was hard to disprove.  Most doctors, even in ultraconservative Oklahoma where I grew up, would write letters for patients from upper middle class or wealthy families to help them get out of the draft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  What matters is whether you act in accordance with your stated convictions.  If you are a militaristic hawk, then you damned well better have served if you had the opportunity or else have had a much better excuse than &#8220;depression&#8221; or an boil on your butt.</p>
<p>I am not mocking mental illness here (I have fought my own demons in the past), but this was one of the easiest cadges for doctors writing letters at that time as it was hard to disprove.  Most doctors, even in ultraconservative Oklahoma where I grew up, would write letters for patients from upper middle class or wealthy families to help them get out of the draft.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44714</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s the point that so many seem to conveniently miss. 

I will not mock those who served.  

I will also not mock those who opposed the war and worked the system to avoid serving. (Edit: I was one who did this during the &#039;Nam period although I eventually enlisted in the USAF and served 5 years 9 months)

I will most definitely mock those who supported the war but found all the ways to avoid serving.  Chickenhawks all, whether Limbaugh, Cheney, Dan Qualye, Bush, or Tancredo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s the point that so many seem to conveniently miss. </p>
<p>I will not mock those who served.  </p>
<p>I will also not mock those who opposed the war and worked the system to avoid serving. (Edit: I was one who did this during the &#8216;Nam period although I eventually enlisted in the USAF and served 5 years 9 months)</p>
<p>I will most definitely mock those who supported the war but found all the ways to avoid serving.  Chickenhawks all, whether Limbaugh, Cheney, Dan Qualye, Bush, or Tancredo</p>
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		<title>By: meepmeep09</title>
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		<dc:creator>meepmeep09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comment dsidhe.  Just a minor correction, regarding Markos&#039; Army service - he is an Army veteran, but not a &lt;em&gt;combat&lt;/em&gt; veteran.  From &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Moulitsas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his Wiki bio&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;...he served in the U.S. Army from 1989 through 1992. He completed training at Ft. Sill in Oklahoma and fulfilled his three-year enlistment as a Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) in the fighting 69th. Fire Direction Specialist. while stationed in Bamberg, Germany. By his own account, he &quot;missed deploying to the Gulf War by a hair.&quot; Moulitsas has described the Army as &quot;perhaps the ideal society – we worked hard but the Army took care of us in return.&quot;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comment dsidhe.  Just a minor correction, regarding Markos&#8217; Army service &#8211; he is an Army veteran, but not a <em>combat</em> veteran.  From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Moulitsas" rel="nofollow">his Wiki bio</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;he served in the U.S. Army from 1989 through 1992. He completed training at Ft. Sill in Oklahoma and fulfilled his three-year enlistment as a Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) in the fighting 69th. Fire Direction Specialist. while stationed in Bamberg, Germany. By his own account, he &#8220;missed deploying to the Gulf War by a hair.&#8221; Moulitsas has described the Army as &#8220;perhaps the ideal society – we worked hard but the Army took care of us in return.&#8221;&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: StringonaStick</title>
		<link>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/tom-tancredo-is-very-touchy-about-his-war-sad/#comment-44708</link>
		<dc:creator>StringonaStick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been treated for depression, and I also live in the Colorado district that this fucker Tancredo used to represent.  The good thing is the guy who replaced that asshole can actually be called a Progressive on most issues; apparently my neighbors pulled their heads out of their asses.  

As someone with &quot;depression&quot; now appended to my permanent medical record living in the land of the pre-existing condition and who has lived through Tancredo as their congressman, I have no doubt that this skeevy fucker bought himself a depression diagnosis to avoid getting his ass shot off in Vietnam while he was busy lobbying for many others to encounter that same fate.  I can&#039;t prove it, but I know ol&#039; Tommy and he&#039;s just that level of disgusting.  A typical Liberarian asshole who thinks he&#039;s special and therefore gaming the system to save his worthless ass is just what Ayn would have wanted him to do; afterall, he was going to be a Producer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been treated for depression, and I also live in the Colorado district that this fucker Tancredo used to represent.  The good thing is the guy who replaced that asshole can actually be called a Progressive on most issues; apparently my neighbors pulled their heads out of their asses.  </p>
<p>As someone with &#8220;depression&#8221; now appended to my permanent medical record living in the land of the pre-existing condition and who has lived through Tancredo as their congressman, I have no doubt that this skeevy fucker bought himself a depression diagnosis to avoid getting his ass shot off in Vietnam while he was busy lobbying for many others to encounter that same fate.  I can&#8217;t prove it, but I know ol&#8217; Tommy and he&#8217;s just that level of disgusting.  A typical Liberarian asshole who thinks he&#8217;s special and therefore gaming the system to save his worthless ass is just what Ayn would have wanted him to do; afterall, he was going to be a Producer.</p>
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		<title>By: Argonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, mental illness is not a joke. However, it really doesn&#039;t matter whether Tancredo was clinically depressed or not. What matters is what he does. There are lots of depressed people (perhaps virtually all of them) who are not actively opposing decent health care. Tancredo is. Every day more than 100 people die simply because they have no coverage. 

So what&#039;s more important - being polite to a menace to public safety, or taking him down? I say Markos took him down perfectly by laughing at him, and Brave Sir Robin ran away. We can out-logic these people 24/7 and it won&#039;t make a damn bit of difference. You can&#039;t rationally debate someone who has arrived at his conclusion irrationally. 4 out of 5 historians agree: scorn, ridicule, satire and humor are the most effective weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, mental illness is not a joke. However, it really doesn&#8217;t matter whether Tancredo was clinically depressed or not. What matters is what he does. There are lots of depressed people (perhaps virtually all of them) who are not actively opposing decent health care. Tancredo is. Every day more than 100 people die simply because they have no coverage. </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s more important &#8211; being polite to a menace to public safety, or taking him down? I say Markos took him down perfectly by laughing at him, and Brave Sir Robin ran away. We can out-logic these people 24/7 and it won&#8217;t make a damn bit of difference. You can&#8217;t rationally debate someone who has arrived at his conclusion irrationally. 4 out of 5 historians agree: scorn, ridicule, satire and humor are the most effective weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDick</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was drafted in 1971 and was able to flunk the physical (I also opposed the war) with a doctor&#039;s letter (for bad knees).  It was always pretty easy to find a doctor who would write you a letter, especially if your family had money, even in Oklahoma where I grew up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was drafted in 1971 and was able to flunk the physical (I also opposed the war) with a doctor&#8217;s letter (for bad knees).  It was always pretty easy to find a doctor who would write you a letter, especially if your family had money, even in Oklahoma where I grew up.</p>
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