Leadership aides are also quoted as saying they are “surprised” which means they haven’t paid any attention to anything RGJoe’s said the last eight years.

Reid controls office assignments. At 7am today Droopy Dog should find a note on his former office door, directing him to the basement room next to the furnace where boxes of his crap have been stacked.

Thus endeth my happy, happy dream.

But . . . But Joe’s with us one everything except the war!

And healthcare.

And investigating past crimes by the Bush administration

And supporting Democratic candidates both locally and nationally

And voting for anything Democrats might try to pass.

Feh!

I hope Lieberman’s penis falls off.

And is quickly gobbled down by a rabid French poodle.

I nominate “America’s sanctimonious shitsack” (A.S.S.) as the phrase that should forever precede any mention of this shitsack’s name. All one ever need know about Lieberman is that William F. Buckley’s National Review endorsed him for Senate in 1988, and both Buckley brothers actually campaigned for him in order to defeat moderate Republican Lowell Weicker for not being conservative enough.

Even if it was shown on pay-per-view

Sounds like a good fund-raiser for reducing the National Debt!!!

If they sold tickets to the Nutkicking Suite a) I would be first in line to buy a ticket, and b) enough people would be in line behind me to instantly solve the debt crisis.

But of course, given their track record, Obama will continue to fellate his old friend in the ridiculous hope that they’ll suddenly see eye to eye. Of course, given Obama’s apparent indifference to passing real health care reform one has to wonder if he and Joe don’t actually see eye to eye just fine already. And that’s a much bigger problem than rape gurney Joe…

Harry Reid is by now so irrelevant as a player it’s almost sad.

Don’t forget that Obama campaigned for him against Ned Lamont.

This, my friends, is how the game is played. Obama never wanted the P.O. Of course, he said he did, but he just wants the “Win” in whatever form the health care bill passes. Reid and Pelosi pretendeded they wanted the P.O., but they’re rolling over now. So A.S.S. gets to be the guy who kills the P.O. and it doesn’t matter-the Progressives hate him anyway. So now Reid, Pelosi, and Obama can tell the Progs, “Hey, we tried!” and we’ll go on in our deluded fashion hoping against hope that they’ll do something truly progressive someday.

So health care reform passes and everyone’s insurance companies are happy.

I feel like Bob Geldof on this Monday.

Guaranteed jury nullification. Even if it was shown on pay-per-view.

Especially if it was shown on pay-per-view. Sadly, Reid will issue a statement saying what a nice guy Joe is and how he is 100% with the Democrats (except of course on everything that really matters). Heads on pikes, folks, heads on pikes. Plant a few of those on the floor of the Senate and I think we would have a lot less “moderates” (i.e., unprincipled corporate shills) among the Democrats.

Hadassa already has that in a lockbox in her personal safe.

Sanctimonious Shitsack loves attention? Who knew? Hey Harry, do your fucking job and MAKE this fuckwad stand up there and filibuster. He’ll get all the attention he wants as the center of the universe, and me thinks that the bright spotlight that would descend on him from the media and everyone else may prove to be a bit too bright for this coward. And I may be an optimist, but at some point the focus will shift to “Joe the Dickhead is holding up reform that the majority of the people want” causing him to cry and scurry back into the crack in the wall he crawled out of. Fuckwad.

Joe is only the beard for a lot of Dem Senators who want to kill “health care reform” but don’t want to get crushed in their primaries for doing so. The DSCC and the DNC are hard at work blaming the nutfuck Republicans for all that Ungovernment coming out of Congress since Obama lied his way into won the presidency but we’re getting the true DLC and New Democrats reaming and there’s not much we can do about it until everything falls apart. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are the two most useless “leaders” ever to be elected by the Democrats and the sooner they crash and burn the better.

I think the time has come to eliminate the Senate, period. It’s not necessary, it’s not beneficial, and think of the money we’ll save. In fact, we’ll even make some money on it if we take all of the Senators who have failed to establish that they have some intrinsic worth to society (basically, everyone except Franken at this point) and sell them for medical experimentation. I will volunteer to personally deliver DiFi to the lab, if it’ll help.

David Rees on Lieberman and health care:

http://trueslant.com/davidrees/2009/11/02/10-jokes-about-joe-lieberman-his-threat-to-filibuster-any-health-care-bill-which-includes-a-public-option/

Unfortunately I already hate Lieberman with the white-hot fury of a million suns, so there is no way for me to hate him more than I do. Though he deserves it.

The wrath toward Lieberman is cute and touching in a nice old-fashioned way. Lieberman will stay right where he is because he and the Blue Dogs are a godsend to the Democratic party: they’ve saved the Democratic pols from the very real danger of having to do the things they’ve talked about for so long. If it wasn’t for Joe they might have to do something to prove that they aren’t just the other branch of the Money Party. Only a madman would so callously shatter the illusions of millions of American voters. So be angry at Leiberman, Reid, Pelosi, Obama – just vote Democratic in 2010 because they’re still better than those other guys. Right?

Interesting that the thing Joe won’t allow in the final bill is the Medicare buy-in for ages 55 – 64; he campaigned to allow that very thing back when he was VP candidate…

What makes Traitor Joe even worse for my family is… we know him. Or we knew him, back before the turn of the century when it was easier to share a school corridor while picking up our kids, without screaming.

this is all kabuki and holy joe is the chosen fall guy. no bill that cuts into industry profits will make it through the senate.

Alas, so very true. And those of us who sufficiently fed up toabandon the mockery of democracy that is this two-party system (two shades of gray, indistinguishable in the harsh light of facts) are told (at times even by our gracious host) that we’re just unrealistic dirty fucking hippies, that we need to reform the system from within yada yada yada. I’m having a hard time seeing much reform potential in a party that wholeheartedly backs the position taken by Lieberman, Baucus et al on health care.

@travy (21): yep, the rest of the limp D’s can now do their sanctimonious: “well *I* certainly wanted real reform, but, oh, that Joe…”

Great title TBogg. Here’s another way to look at it: This would never have happened if LBJ was still alive.

Can you imagine Lieberman jerking LBJ around like this? Joe wouldn’t even have an office or committee assignments at this point. Hell, Joe would be MIA at this point.

Gawd, I miss LBJ.

The last liberal President. And perhaps the very last.

When I look in the mirror, I see my Christianist Anti-Abortion evil twin, with the Republican leadership pointing at me and laughing in the background.

And, sadly, what puravida@24 said.

Some Guy With a Website offers a nice take on the current situation.

Oh, yeah. Lieberman would have lost any privileges he had years ago. Nobody would hear anything about him – he wouldn’t even be on the tv “news” shows because LBJ would have found a way to punish the shows/networks who put him on. His name would be forgotten, and he would be destroyed politically for all time.

Damn. Who knew I’d be nostalgic for the 60′s presidents?

What a contemptible little toad of a man that Lieberman is (with apologies to men and toads alike for the unfair comparison).

All the same – we’re being played here. It’s nothing more than a simple good cop/bad cop routine. The reason Obama, Reid, and crew still pal around with Lieberman is that he’s doing EXACTLY what they want him to. The don’t want real healthcare reform but they want it to look like they do. This way they can shrug and blame Lieberman.

Yes, LBJ did many great things. I wonder sometimes though if his reputation as some genius negotiator and strong-armer is a little overblown. Compare the Congress LBJ had for big fights like Medicare to what Obama has now:

Senate
Democratic: 68 (majority)
Republican: 32

House of Representatives
Democratic: 295 to 294 (majority)
Republican: 140 to 141

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_United_States_Congress

This was also long before the takeover of the MegaMedia by Repubs and the whole DLC/Infiltrator Dem game got started. A Goldwater Repub back then would today be considered a “Centrist” Democrat on many issues. Several Repubs would cross the aisle back then and there was much more unity within the DemocratIC Party on big issues.

Not trying to take anything away from LBJ, but when comparing Presidents of different eras, this seems like a major factor to consider in my opinion.

Not at all, in my opinion. Read Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson for an insight into the abilities of Lyndon Johnson as a legislator. His single-handed engineering of the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was done despite the blocs of Dixiecrat and Republican Senators who had made the Senate into a roadblock to social change.

We have issued a cease and decist order and demand that you stop impugning our character by comparing us with the repellent Joe Lieberman.

-Fraternal Order of Sanctimonious Shitsacks

What penis?

The man never DID have any ‘nads to speak of….

Thanks. I will likely check that book out. Sounds interesting.

So LBJ was a great negotiator AND had a much more supportive Congress than Obama has, so no wonder LBJ got so much done.

Oh, and J. Low Lieberme can kiss my grits. Two times! Also.

Just started re-reading that book. Caro’s a great writer/storyteller of the complicated life that was LBJ.

He was a prick to be sure, but he remembered the poverty he came from. Plus, he knew that by increasing the voting base by allowing southern African-Americans to truly exercise their right to vote plus offering massive anti-poverty programs, he increased his chances of election (such as wiping the floor with then-extremist Barry Goldwater in 1964).

The most despicable thing Lieberman did was to make Obama, Reid, and Pelosi all give up on single-payer UHC before Congress even started working on the bill.

Yesterday, Liz Cheney, now Lieberman?
C’mon, T-Bogg, how to you expect me to keep my food down.

Except, it wasn’t like they put up a whole lot of resistance, did they? They rolled so fast on that one (and all the subsequent compromises) you’d almost have thunk it was what they wanted to do in the first place… oh, wait…

That it wasn’t even used as a starting point was telling. So far, the only part of the bill with any teeth in it is the part that forces you (Under threat of being fined) to buy health insurance from the same companies whose practices give such shitty outcomes while transferring billions from our pockets to theirs. One of the many ironies of the situation is that many of those who opposed the GM and Chrysler bailouts because both companies had done a shitty job were the most staunch defenders of the healthcare companies’ right to keep on doing a shitty job.

And one of the headlines this morning is that Rahm Emmanuel has told Reid to concede to Lieberman.
‘nuf said about this White House’s support for progressive legislation.
Lieberman is odious but, yes, he looks like the beard for the Blue Dogs and their administration.

I think I speak on behalf of all liberals radicals progressives when I say that I’m deeply offended by your sexist, ageist reference to 13 year old girls.

Rookie mistake, TBogg.