Oh dear, Ross Douthat (for whom a lit red candle and an Enya CD is a sure sign of whoredom) is talking about sex again:
None of this renders the abstinence-versus-contraception debate pointless. But we should understand it more as a battle over community values than as an argument about public policy. Luker describes it, aptly, as a conflict between the “naturalist” and “sacralist” approaches to sex — between parents in Berkeley, say, who don’t want their kids being taught that premarital intercourse is something to feel ashamed about and parents in Alabama who don’t want their kids being lectured about the health benefits of masturbation. The debate might be less rancorous if the naturalists and sacralists didn’t have to fight it out in Washington.
This is the real problem with federal financing for abstinence-based education: It drags the national government into a debate that should remain intensely local. We federalize the culture wars all the time, of course — from Roe v. Wade to the Defense of Marriage Act. But it’s a polarizing habit, and well worth kicking.
I will let slide his description of Roe v. Wade as mere part of the “culture war” (because others will no doubt pick it up and beat him about his bearded face and neck with it) as opposed to, say, a health and privacy right of Vagina-Americans and go directly to pointing out that Ross really seems to know less about sex than Megan McArdle knows about…well, anything actually.
As a recent Mother Jones profile put it:
In choosing Douthat, the editors got a peculiar specimen of both. He first gained attention for Privilege, a bittersweet 2005 memoir of his years at Harvard, where the drinking, partying, and hooking up left him feeling alienated. Of one alcohol-fueled fling, he wrote: “Whatever residual enthusiasm I felt for the venture dissipated, with shocking speed, as she nibbled at my ear and whispered—’You know, I’m on the pill.’…On that night, in that dank basement bedroom, she spoke for all of us, the whole young American elite. Not I love you, not This is incredible, not Let’s go all the way, but I’m on the pill.”
[...]
Douthat does have a Catholic’s profound sense that sin is real, and he is always on high alert for the perversion of virtue. In a 2006 blog post, for instance, he expressed dismay that Jennifer Aniston’s character in The Break-Up gets a Brazilian bikini wax: “As with breast implants, it’s another instance of modern women taking their sexual cues from pornography.” Indeed, his writing often exhibits a tension between the contemporary, culturally engaged, tolerant intellectual and the moral rectitudinarian. Even his moralizing has two sides: that of the peace-loving Catholic, nourished by the mysterium tremendum of the Mass, and that of the crusader, certain that abortion is murder and masturbation is a vice.
You don’t have to be Einstein, or Chunky Reese Witherspoon for that matter, to figure out that Ross has serious issues with teh sexxytime. Anyone, at the age of thirty, who addresses something that Woody Allen called “the most fun you can have without laughing” by pointing out that he maintains “theological premises about the nature of sex” is on the fast track to Double Wetsuits, Dildo, and Stout Overhead Beamville.
As I have said before, you could take a person like Ross and stick a lump of coal in his butt, and by Friday you’d have a diamond.




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The root of all Republicans’ / Conservatives’ hang ups about sex (and everything else really) boil down to the simple fact that no one has ever looked at Ross et al. and just said / thought “Oh yeah, I want to fuck that guy” and they know it.
Roe v. Wade is the law, not some Berkley-ite’s opinion.
Douthat is truly an intellectual and moral lightweight. Not to mention an insufferable twat who wants to project his sexual dysfunctions on the rest of us.
No thanks, Tbogg. We don’ like his kind ’round here…
The M.J. piece is pretty good. Amazing how he was able to make up for lost Catholic time w/ convert’s zealotry, & internalize a thousand yrs. of repression while going to Hah-vud. Quite the “intellect.”
“This is the real problem with federal financing for abstinence-based education: It drags the national government into a debate that should remain intensely local. ”
No, Ross. The real problem is that it doesn’t freakin’ work. I thought we’d already covered this. This clown went to Harvard? Was he a legacy?
Of course, you’d have to make him pay extra for that.
Unless they’re paid for by a Donald Trump Beauty pageant. Then its just business.
Abinormal Tucker Douthat must have a veritable cornucopia of sex toys, including an electrified narwhal tusk.
Unless she’s gay, too.
Signed,
Chunky Reese Witherspoon
doggone it, he is a real American and, also he has all my diamonds…?”-SP
Tebow Doritos Super Bowl©™ advert.
Ross does have a point: If Billy-Bob wants to have abstinence taught in his childs classroom in Alabama, let him have it. Have his local government pay for it. Just keep it out of my schools. Although according to Douthat’s argument it don’t work anyway. So, as usual, I really don’t know what he is getting at.
MBouffant hits it right on the head: Newbie Catholic making up for lost repression time.
Funny.
Oh, by the way: Te-BOW, Te-BOW, Te-BOW.
And that goes for you too, DesertRat.
Damn edit function took out my returns.
Scott over at World O’Crap also dissects this column. http://world-o-crap.com/blog/?p=1820
you could take a person like Ross and stick a lump of coal in his butt, and by Friday you’d have a diamond.
And TBogg wins the internets! That sir is solid gold. DoucheHat, on the other hand, is still a steaming pile of bat shit.
Woody Allen also said. “It’s sex with someone I truly love.”
This chunky Reese Witherspoon story is kind of odd. I mean, I have had occasions when I found myself in bed with a drunk, and suddenly wasn’t in the mood to. What does he intend us to draw from this anecdote? That if she hadn’t been flapping one of her non-sexual holes, he would have proceeded? That a girl ought not to take responsibility for her body? Or that she should have the good taste not to bring it up to a Harvard man? There is no indication that the writer was prepared on his own with a condom, or that he would have asked her whether she had one, or if she was on the pill.
So what is the point? It doesnt sound like he was going to have sex with her anyway, so I guess he just wants to blame her for taking the excitement out of not knowing if he was going to be making child support payments for the next 18 years. Which is what sex is all about anyway.
not This is incredible
Really, Russ? She didn’t say that?
And why do we think that is?
She probably goes through batteries like Doughy Pantload goes through girl scout cookies – by the crate.
“As I have said before, you could take a person like Ross and stick a lump of coal in his butt, and by Friday you’d have a diamond.” For the win, but, for the record, I don’t think it would take until Friday, even if it was Thursday.
You can laugh while fucking.
Just ask Ms. Douthat de jour.
He was lamenting the absence of ROMANCE. Innat sweet? And now he’s a Catholic, which offers all romance (if, by that, we mean, an idealized and spiritualized aftermarket haze of significance) all the time.
Shit, she was a modern Harvard woman, taking responsibility and flagging the man “the runway is clear for a landing, so you don’t have to worry your pretty little head about an ‘oopsie’ call 3-4 weeks from now – let’s go for it.”
And TBogg, your caption? killjoy
So, basically, Douthat uses his bully pulpit as a psychiatrist’s couch and we get to play headshrink for this loser? OK, Ross, here’s my prescription: take a Viagra and your personal toture should be cured in about 30 minutes. Where do I send my bill?
“you could take a person like Ross and stick a lump of coal in his butt, and by Friday you’d have a diamond.” It’s prose like this that makes your place a daily stop on my tour of the innertubes….
Whenever Douthat talks about sexytime, I’m reminded of a hardcore Trekkie contemplating the feasibility of teleportation.
I can totally see Douthat on stage with Billy Joe Shaver.
Shaking a tambourine through “Old Lump of Coal” & then getting shoved off the edge in “Get Thee Behind me Satan”
How could she possibly help herself?
I will carry her across the threshold
I will make dim the light
I will attempt to spend my love within her
But though I try with all my might
She will laugh at my mighty sword
She will laugh at my mighty sword
Why must everybody laugh at my mighty sword?
Personally, I’m wagering on him swinging from a basset chandelier in diapers–but I suppose reasonable minds may differ on the fine points of Douthat’s “theological premises.”
If you read carefully, you can almost hear the soft click of the rosary as Douthat subvocalizes the gentle litany: “I’m not gay; I’m not gay; I’m not gay….”
I think what our overgrown teenager meant was that sex should carry with it risks (primarily for the female, of course). That is exactly the sentiment of the Republican lawmakers’ argument against the HPV vaccine. Sluts must be punished.
That Randy Newman! He’s always been crazy about Irish/Catholic girls . Maybe Ross could get into to Randy’s angst.
So here’s the thing: every time I see a photo of Ross, all I can think is F-to-M transsexual, or perhaps, hermaphrodite. If it’s the latter, it’s a short leap from teeny tiny penis to major league hang-ups about the whoopee.
Wrong! Most hardcore Trekkies know that Gene Roddenberry made transporters up as a plot device because of the relatively cheap cost of the special effect…
…no, wait, I’m pretty sure that that is what Angry Ewok thinks that sex is really all about. Never mind, carry on.
Well, if poor Ross attended an all boy’s Catholic High School like a friend of mine did, he probably had all of the priests and brothers telling him that women do not enjoy sex, they view it as their duty to procreate. Therefore if he is with a woman who appears to be enjoying it, he figures there must be something drastically wrong with her.
And he is awfully stupid to think that all people in Alabama or all people within Berkeley think the same way. I can’t even get the people in my office to agree on anything.
Now there’s a mental image I didn’t need.
“sacralist” is just another name for Teabagger.
With Repub males, it’s always about the male genitalia. Always. And also.
Digby’s also got a good post on this one. Unsurprisingly, his sex ed claims are bullshit.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/douthats-problems-with-sex-by-tristero.html
But then, we expect that. It’s his pathetic attempts to justify his prudishnes that makes Douthat Douthat.