Upon hearing that one of the victims is a young girl, the pilots laugh, “Well, it’s their fault for bringing their kids to a battle”.
Aspiring to become History’s Greatest Monster, Marc Thiessen wants you to know that those guys in the Apache attack helicopter are probably kicking themselves right now over that whole bang-bang shoot’em up whoopsie! thing :
The Huffington Post reports that “unveiling the video at the National Press Club on Monday morning, [WikiLeaks editor Julian] Assange said the helicopter crew approached its job as if it were a video game, not something involving human lives. ‘Their desire was simply to kill,’ he said. ‘Their desire was to get high scores on that computer game.’” That is unfair. Their desire was not to kill innocent people; their desire was protect the American and Iraqi people from a murderous enemy. The video is heart-wrenching to watch, but I suspect that those most horrified after they learned the truth were the troops aboard that Apache helicopter who discovered they had accidentally killed innocent civilians. The incident deserves investigation, and it appears that the military was not fully forthcoming about what took place. If so, disciplinary action may be warranted. But using this tragedy to question the humanity of American troops, or to suggest they have a callous disregard for human life—as WikiLeaks and the HuffingtonPost do—is simply wrong.
Because you know what is worse than having 30mm slugs ripping through your body causing your vital organs to shred and explode? Finding out that you “accidentally killed innocent civilians”. I mean, you have to live with that shit.
So not fair…




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That ROE Pixie Dust is some potent shit… Makes everything a-okay…! 8-(
I have caught a few episodes of WWII in HD on the History Channel (so sue me) and one soldier it followed was Rocky Blunt. He gets separated from his unit in a town and has to kill a German soldier with his knife. Youtube link
Episode is Edge of the Abyss
you DO have to live with that shit.
That they were giddy over blowing people to bits, and that they giggled about killing a little girl, in no way suggests that they left their humanity behind in CONUS. Looks like Bush’s years’ long campaign to dehumanize Muslims has paid off.
” … the military was not fully forthcoming about what took place …”
No! Why you could knock me over with a feather! Shuckins, I’ll bet the military will spank someone when they find out who did that not-fully-forthcoming stuff.
As long as it’s a private, of course.
…a few bad apples…
…not representative of…
…one incident out of context…
…with the utmost care…
…highly trained…
…increased emphasis on…
…review of procedures…
Mission Accomplished is the name of this game. Trouble is, American players are routinely indoctrinated to believe they are the good guys, so whatever happens, it’s all good. (Though this is true of soldiers in every army. It’s the lie soldiers must absorb if they are to become efficient killers.)
“You wounded a little girl? Killed innocent civilians? Don’t worry about it!”
While they are in the game, these soldiers won’t feel or show remorse. But once they’re home that shit is going to hit the fan one way or another.
That Mark Thiessen is not in touch with the irrevocable consequences of these events makes him even worse than the killers. I mean, I think we can all appreciate how war corrupts its participants. But Thiessen’s not in the arena. He has no excuse.
Don’t ya just love those chickenshit 101st Keyboard Kommandos…?!!
There’s a bit of a difference in watching people die through a gun camera, and holding on to the jerking, twisting, spurting body of someone you’ve just killed with a knife, while holding on for dear life, trying to keep them from making any extra noise that might give you away. Not that I’ve done this, or anything like it… ahem.
Just saying.
Thought it was funny, eh?
Take them out of that cushy helicopter and put them into an infantry squad, this time facing armed guys who are seriously trying to kill them, and we’ll see who’s giggling.
Exactly…! Those WO’s were itching to fire… Point blank, even…! 8-(
The real ground pounders tried their damned’st to tend to the two kids…!
I’m sure it still haunts that squad that rolled onto the scene of carnage…!
Does anybody remember a MASH episode where Hawkeye and BJ manage to bring pilots into actual contact with the victims of their aerial attack?
All the points made here are fine – dehumanizing the enemy is par for the course in war. That said, some soldiers(used broadly for all) do commit war crimes, and they should be held accountable.
That our brave 101st keyboard typist doesn’t understand any of that means that he just needs to STFU.
The yahoos in the chopper are to “American troops”
as
Jeffrey Dahmer is to Americans.
The yahoos are guilty of murder.
Just like Jeffrey Dahmer.
I can close my eyes and picture George W. Bush reading these words. Reading them because, of course, a sociopath can’t real speak them with any feeling.
The Marc Theissans of this country ought to be on the receiving end of some of that unfairness, just to see if their opinions might suddenly change.
Did Goebbels ever get a gig writing for the Berlin Zeitung after WW2? Just wondering.
Anyone who can look at that video and make excuses for what occurred is downright scary to me. How in the hell is circling around a guy who is on the ground crawling on his belly, gravely wounded, and begging for permission to blow him up, protect American and Iraqi people from a ‘murderous enemy’? And the poor guy in the van who just was trying to help him? That’s the face of a ‘murderous enemy’?
There are all kinds in the military, including sadists and sociopaths…people who get off on firing their weapons and get off on killing people. I guarantee that that guy in the helicopter is a dangerous man who’s going to do something very bad to some civilian here in the U.S. one day. Anyone who gets that much enjoyment out of blowing people away is sick, sick, sick.
And Marc Thiessen, the torture man? He’s a pathetic human being. I believe he has also made excuses for the Catholic Church for covering up the molestation of children by pedophile priests. In other words…if you have on a uniform of any kind, anything you do is forgivable. He has very serious authority issues.
Yep, this shitwad needs to be be wiped right off of our shoes. Even a sidewalk wouldn’t want the esssence that started this asshole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrtNSZh2Tnw
This is a clip from Fahrenheit 9/11 that we watched in class in 2005. It was a political geography class and one of the discussions was centered on the use of the military.
There was woman in the ROTC in the class and she and a few other voiced concern that Moore was just trying to label all military people as uncaring soul-less killers*. But I didn’t think that was Moore’s point at all (I mean, well, you have be a sick fuck to want to kill people). I think the point was that once you fire up the military machine and point it at a target, you have accept the consequences as your responsibility. All of which requires that military action be the absolute, motherfucking, last-ditch effort to end an international problem. The DoD is not a diplomacy tool.
*Further, I was in the AF and if I was facing an attack from enemy forces, you’re damn right I want people that are unafraid to pull the trigger standing next to me. The idea of a professional military force is a fucking joke.