Bill Kristol, who has been spectacularly wrong about pretty much everything upon which he has ever ventured an opinion in his entire life, has decided that he is the one who must speak up for post 9/11 America which, in Kristol’s eyes (so, automatically wrong) has been maligned by the American Muslim President:
I’d just add one comment...
For Obama, 9/11 was a “deeply traumatic event for our country.” Traumatic events invite characteristic reactions and over-reactions–fearfulness, anger, even hysteria. That’s how Obama understands the source of objections to the Ground Zero mosque. It’s all emotional. The arguments don’t have to be taken seriously. The criticisms of the mosque are the emotional reactions of a traumatized people.
But Americans aren’t traumatized. 9/11 was an attack on America, to which Americans have responded firmly, maturely, and appropriately.
We’ll stop right here and point out that, no, America did not act “firmly, maturely, and appropriately” in the wake of 9/11. But, a traumatized America that, up until that time, thought it was “all that” was easily manipulated into being the blunt instrument of war that Bill Kristol and his chickenhawk buddies at PNAC had their hearts set on since the late 90′s. To them, the attack on 9/11 was the greatest fucking day of their lives because it gave them the causus belli fantasy that they had been masturbating to for years. Where we saw smoke and ash, death and destruction, they saw great opportunity and heavenly providence. And a mere nine days after the destruction of the twin towers, while America was still digging through the rubble and tallying up the dead, PNAC presented a blueprint to President Bush that, surprisingly enough, looked an awful lot like their Christmas wish list. After a perfunctory and obligatory first nod towards Osama bin Laden, there was this:
Iraq
We agree with Secretary of State Powell’s recent statement that Saddam Hussein “is one of the leading terrorists on the face of the Earth….” It may be that the Iraqi government provided assistance in some form to the recent attack on the United States. But even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq. Failure to undertake such an effort will constitute an early and perhaps decisive surrender in the war on international terrorism. The United States must therefore provide full military and financial support to the Iraqi opposition. American military force should be used to provide a “safe zone” in Iraq from which the opposition can operate. And American forces must be prepared to back up our commitment to the Iraqi opposition by all necessary means.
Helping to pave the road to war were PNAC members within the administration, journalistic hacks (among others: Stephen Hayes, Jeffrey Goldberg, and Judith Miller) and the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth. To date 4400 dead American soldiers and countless innocent Iraqis who were liberated from the pain of living have paid the toll for this neo-con dream of empire.
But, please, Bill Kristol, tell us how Barack Obama is dismissing your sage views on matters most important:
Part of our sensible and healthy reaction is that there shouldn’t be a 13-story mosque and Islamic community center next to Ground Zero (especially when it’s on a faster track to be built than the long-delayed memorial there). But Obama (like Bloomberg) doesn’t feel he even has to engage the arguments against the mosque–because he regards his fellow citizens as emotionally traumatized victims, not citizens who might have a reasonable point of view.
No, he just treats citizens who are against the mosque for what they are: low-information emotionally-stunted dipshits who are being whipped into a frenzy by fearmongering cowards who have always counted upon the gullibility and bloodlust of the mob .
Yeah. That’s right. We’ve seen this movie before and didn’t much care for it. Nope. Not at all.
So, like Bill Kristol above, I’d also like to add one comment:
Fuck off and die, Bill Kristol. Seriously, just fuck off and die, you evil piece of shit.




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Tommy,
Word. That one’s out of the ballpark and already past Jupiter. Awesome.
WAR-MONGER
The PNAC assholes are now grabbing the Vaseline and tissue and dreaming of exploding nuclear reactors. I can see Kristol now, all sweaty with some panty hose on his head as he rubs one off.
What a sick pathetic bunch of douche bags.
You can hear the sounds of whrrr of the machinations in his evil dullard brain.
And he’s still-Sweaty making that whrrerer noise as his evil machinations fill the douche-bag of his once soul.
You know what I hate most about that asshole? His perpetual grin. Even when he’s lying through his teeth (and when isn’t he?) or advocating genocide he smiles. I bet you could throw a grenade in his mouth, watch it blow up and find the grin still there.
That pretty much says it all.
Thank you sir, for saying in such succinctness and clarity what needs to be said.
I’m hoping the upshot of this is a drive to repeal the first amendment. What better way to prove to the world that America is all about the freedom thing than by giving up all of our freedoms?
Well said Mr. Tbogg. I’m surprised you used such restraint in your rhetoric when writing about William the Bloody.
If William, Son of Irving, had to rely on his own abilities in life we’d never have heard of him, and the warmongering Kagans would have had to resort to a Podhoretz, Goldberg, or some other pucker-assed nepotistic coward to cause the deaths of better people than them. Yet another occasion to remember this bit, from the Economist:
clap clap clappity clap.
right on, TBogg.
On behalf of everyone who didn’t get a job because somebody’s best friend had a nephew of little brain, fuck you very much, Seroius And Important Americans.
In a just society, Kristol would be on trial for war crimes relating to his promotion of the Iraqi debacle, instead of promoting another war with another mid-East country. What’s it take to hold these people accountable?
And I quote: “Fuckin-A.”
Sensible people would probably agree that anyone as unpleasant as Mr. Kristol should be tortured to death. At least we should be able to have an open and honest debate about it.
More shithead logic from the guy who brought us Sarah P
There will be a special spot in hell for Billy I am sure
Bloody Billy KKKristol, douche for the ages.
Unfortunately they depend on such religious sentiments to avoid punishment in the here and now. Remember–God helps those who help themselves, so it is our Holy Duty to save God the trouble and roast that sucker over a campfire immediately.
I’ll bring the consecrated marshmallows.
Good old Often-Wrong Kristol: mockery is too good for the likes of him.
The down side of atheism is that I can’t fantasize about Bill Kristol being sauteed by the Devil for eternity.
Agree on stilts with special concurrence sauce all over. Can’t the next “pie” in that loathsome prick’s face be a Claymore mine? Please?
If there is one person on whom most of the neocon death machine can be blamed, it is this sanctimonius prick.
Since I will not read the article, I wonder exactly what reasonable arguments against the center are. Everything I’ve heard consists of mindless, emotional rants and naked bigotry.
One more thing. He says it will be “next to” Ground Zero, which shows he needs to lie to make his point.
A-fucking-men. Kristol is one of the most loathsome pundits in American politics, fomenting war and problems for America at every turn to promote his neo-Imperialist fantasies and dampen his pro-Israel paranoia. Just look at his other latest project, trying to destroy the careers of any politicians who dare to criticize Israel for stuff that it has openly admitted to doing.
It goes beyond foreign policy, too. Kristol was the pundit back in the early 1990s who said that Republicans had to complete beat and defeat universal health care, otherwise it would be a political death sentence for them. I shudder to think of how many lives and the like have been lost and ruined because of his advice.
Those who give Kristol a platform are the real evil; they know exactly what they’re getting, and why. Being wrong, especially about the ME/Israel/security s a feature, not a bug.
Amen also, too. Is Kristol part of the current “new product rollout” re Iran?
Since I don’t wish to indulge in any violent, incendiary rhetoric (cuz the right-wing just hates that), I’d like to express my wish that Bill Kristol expire peacefully, shit-eating grin fixed forever on his face, right now.
Beautifully done, TBogg. In a just world assholes like Kristol would be ranting on streetcorners, instead of getting paid to fail, over and over again, and being allowed to influence public policy.
The right wing also hates logic, facts, hope and charity. (They like faith-based hating, however.) So it’s probably okay to let the rhetoric get a little flamey, since Republican outrage is as prdictable and regular as sunrise and sunset.
Of course, Kristol’s rant shows no emotion whatsover, none at all, nope.
Or maybe he just doesn’t understand the definition of “emotion.” It would fit; there’s very little he does understand.
Note to EvilDrPuma – small correction, as TBogg said: Kristol’s always wrong about everything.
I know you were just trying to be kind.
Sorry; I screwed up the editing on the comment below and am now stuck with two.
Naturally, Kristol doesn’t actually SAY what these supposed reasonable arguments against the community center are – he just accuses people of not taking them seriously.
Just in case you forgot he’s the guy who brought us Sarah Palin, he gives you an example of the rhetorical genre.
This guy is the epitome of everything that’s wrong with this country (how’s that for hyperbole?) and what’s worse, he benefits from all his whore–oops, war–mongering ways. Fuck you slowly with a very rusty pitchfork, Kristol.
Nothing to add that our fine host and the 34 commenters ahead of me haven’t said. Just wanted to chime in with thanks for calling it straight, as usual.
The individual who committed that act of violence against Bill Kristol did it, in significant part, because he wanted the social approval of ideological friends – and you provide that approval by posting the pic above, because you think it’s funny, or Kristol deserved it, or whatever.
And that ups the chances of continued violence. A cake may be relatively harmless, but if a person gets that close, he can do much worse.
And despite the vitriol people here direct toward Bill Kristol, I don’t think you all desire that result.
That “act of violence” was a pie.
A link to the motivation of the pie-thrower would help your argument.
There might be more pie-throwing? Cool.
Right…throwing a pie in the face of someone who has promoted death and destruction of millions of innocent human beings are morally equivalents. You neocons sure have interesting ideas on moral relativism.
But I do, Blanche, I do desire it.
There might be more pie-throwing? Cool.
Sure, it always starts out as an act of single pie throwing…then escalates into the MOAPT…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMyhCgsb7E
Obviously, kryon77 is worried about the implications. He probably supports a constitutional amendment to ban pies.
Yes. Yes we do.
Also worth noting is that the pie ‘violence’ depicted in the pic occurred at Earlham College in March, 2005. The ongoing wave of pie violence since has been a (blueberry*?) stain on our national souls.
The horror!
*Turns out, according to wiki, it was an ice cream pie. No word as to the flavor.
The frozen horror!
I admit to being conflicted on wasting an edible pie on the likes of Kristol. Blueberry, peach, or apple pie is almost a criminal waste of a good pie. Certainly, a shaving cream pie should be the preferred choice for warmongers.
I think its a great idea – repeal the first amendment for Bill Kristol, Fox News whores, and anchor babies. Hearings! Hearings!
Any pie really would be OK, as long as there was a steel plate baked into it.
Pecan.
Friends of mine have died because of liars like Bill Kristol. And while I don not let anyone off the hook, because the US is a democracy, and as such, we are ALL responsible, that vile son of a bitch deserves to die, shrieking for his mother and covered in his own blood and shit while his closest friends stand around helplessly hoping it will end quickly. I would normally suggest that Kristol and his ilk should have the nightmares that accrue to surviving that, but I doubt it would bother him at all. You have to have a functioning soul first.
It was Kristol’s lying that got people wanting it, and his demagoguery that silenced those who disagreed. Fuck him and everybody who ever called themselves a neocon.
Uh-oh, you said something bad about neocons. That makes you an anti-Semite, just like TBogg.
Mr. TBogg, I bow to your wow!
How easily the non-professional-left, give creedence to the crazy-spoutin’ of the likes of BK and his fellow travelers.
Fuck him with Hitler’s dick!
Like maybe a SHOE? Oh noes!
Somewhere, Michelle Malkin is smiling.
Yeah, we know.
Fuck him with Hitler’s dick!
Fortunately, that can be arranged.
“What’s it take to hold these people accountable?” Simple. Draft their cowardly asses, and make them go fight the wars they’re so pleased to start.
As a socialist whose number came up in 1971 and lucky that I didn’t get the full tour, I always thought that that a volunteer Army was a good thing. haha…now I know that the real option is a accountable-free private Army. And we don’t have to think about the consequences. My son is now in the position of wondering if the Navy is a ticket to a great future or the road to a future with a Sunburner up his backside….
jaysus keerist. I went to that Memorandum site and what did I see?
Harvard University fund sells all Israel holdings — No reason for the sale was mentioned in the report to the SEC. — In another blow to Israeli shares, the Harvard Management Company notified the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on Friday that it had sold all its holdings …
Keerist T-Bogg, you got more influence then I realized!
In lieu of “Prisoner William Kristol” sitting uncomfortably in shackles in den Haag, a pie will have to do.
But Obama (like Bloomberg) doesn’t feel he even has to engage the arguments against the mosque–because he regards his fellow citizens as emotionally traumatized victims, not citizens who might have a reasonable point of view.
He doesn’t have to because of the First Amendment, you meathead.
I’ve been as close to William Kristol as that pie thrower, just the two of us in an empty room. He is as full of himself as he seems to be on TV and not worth bruising my knuckles with a punch or two. A pasty little man shaped like a potato basking in his own self-approval and bored with the world.
This was at Harvard a couple of years ago, when he was a visiting professor there for a semester. Before that particular event, one of the organizers told me not to give “poor Bill” a hard time. They love him at Harvard. He’s an alum and has a long history at the school. Then, again, Harvard loves anybody with power, despite the divestment from Israel. Know who bought George W’s shares in his little insider trading scandal? Harvard.
The Latin spelling is casus belli. Otherwise, spot on.
Bloody Bill is very talented. It takes alot of effort to be wrong. Every. Single. Time. Even a broken clock is correct twice per day.
Gosh, TBogg, you’ve gone and upset Sully, but you did win a prize for doing it!
Also, too, I didn’t know Billy’s pie was thrown at Earlham. You can always count on the Quakers to do the right thing.
well, one of Sully’s minions. Sully himself is on vacation.
Wasn’t it George H W Bush who got all down-homey during his campaigns and proclaimed his favorite snack to be deep-fried foreskins?