How bad is the economy? This bad.
What once was commonplace but then seemed unthinkable for a team that has been among the NFL’s most successful has come to pass again.
The Chargers fell about 7,000 tickets short of selling enough non-premium seats to Sunday’s home opener against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and so the game will be blacked out on local television.
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The Chargers said recently that more than 10,000 tickets remain for their next home game, Oct. 3 against the Arizona Cardinals.
The Chargers have won the third-most regular-season games in the NFL since 2004, the biggest reason for their stretch without a blackout.
Team President Dean Spanos recently attributed the difficulty selling tickets to the poor economy and perhaps fans’ lingering disappointment over the team’s most recent playoff loss.
Unemployment in San Diego is “down” to 10.6%.
So yeah, things are tough all over. Kind of.
The Detroit Lions have avoided a local television blackout of their home opener against Philadelphia.
The Lions announced Friday they had sold enough tickets to ensure Sunday’s game will air live in the Detroit, Lansing, Saginaw-Flint and Toledo, Ohio, markets.
The NFL had given the team a 24-hour extension until 1 p.m. ET Friday.
Lions president Tom Lewand said the Eagles returned a few hundred tickets from their allotment. Those tickets are available to the public, but that won’t affect the broadcast.
Detroit unemployment: 15.2%
What makes this hilarious (and it is) is that the Chargers are trying to get a new stadium and they would like for the city to pay for most of it because we really need to spend $400 million dollars on a structure that seats 62,000 people eight to nine times a year and, you know, we can probably do without all that extraneous stuff we always upon which we waste our rainy day money:
San Diego residents could see a combined $30 million in additional reductions to public safety, libraries and parks under the latest round of budget cuts being proposed.
Mayor Jerry Sanders has asked every city department to identify a total $76.7 million in cuts by next month as he begins deliberations on how to close a $72 million deficit for the fiscal year that begins July 1.
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The police department has been asked to cut the most dollars — $15.9 million — of any department. That’s the equivalent of laying off the 251 workers who serve as captains, lieutenants, dispatchers and entry-level officers. The department has a $385 million operating budget
Fire and rescue will have to cut $7.2 million from its budget.
Libraries, the City Attorney’s Office and the department that deals with road repairs round out the five areas that will have to make the biggest cuts.
Jay Goldstone, the city’s chief operating officer, said he understands the difficulty departments will have in finding areas to cut because this will be the fourth consecutive year he’s asked them for reductions. He said the proposed cuts may include laying off police officers or expanding the city’s brownout policy in which up to eight fire engines are idled each day to save money.
“Typically, you ask for a lot more than you need because departments are going to give you options and alternatives,” Goldstone said. “While they will rank them in priority order, they may not be the mayor’s priority so you want some ability to not take everything.”
The city slashed $179 million from its budget last fall. That round of cuts included layoffs in the police department and the implementation of brownouts.
The Chargers, it is worth noting, are owned by billionaire Alex G Spanos.





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It’s the same old story. Local/state governments shower cash on professional sports teams, casinos and Fortune 500 companies while haggling schools to death over every last pencil.
so, explain again why a privately owned and operated stadium serving a privately owned sports club in a privately owned league needs public dollars to make ends meet? Perhaps Adam Smith and his free market called in sick today?
If you need $800M to make this happen and your claim that it’s really such a great deal all around isn’t just complete marketing bull, then I’m sure you can find some happy Wall Street bankers with their pockets overflowing with dormant dollars. The San Diego tax payers no doubt have other things to spend their money on — wars, mortgages, bailouts (see bankers, above), and perpetual tax cuts for Mr. Spanos and his wealthy friends. Whatever is left after all that they may elect to spend on your overpriced tickets, or they may go grocery shopping… but forcing them to pay for your shiny new playground is such a socialist thing to do.
Looks like that Spanos motherfucker needs a tax break. Shoved down his throat, also. Too.
Same stuff, different day, here in Sacramento. The Maloof Brothers, owners of the Sacramento Kings basketball franchise, are always whining about how they need public funds to build a new and better stadium for their team. Or no one will EVER come to Sacramento or spend a dime on ANYTHING ever again.
The boys even managed to build The Palms in Vegas WHILE they were clanging their tin cups together on street corners here in town. Boo-fuckin’-hoo.
You got nothing on Portland where one of Paul Allen’s holding companies, Vulcan Sports and Entertainment, which operated the Rose Quarter (home of the Trail Blazers), filed for bankruptcy in 2004.
Wiki entry.
Paul Fucking Allen, whose personal wealth is US$13.5 billion as of 2010!
But, but it will create jobs…trash collectors, beer vendors, and parking attendants.
We’re all hurting a hell of a lot more than DC even imagines. San Diego, LA, Phoenix, Denver, SF, Vegas – all the way down the line.
Never underestimate the stimulus to the economy of hundreds of part-time beer vendors. Fuckers.
Just a reminder, hippies&haters:
If it weren’t for the founding fathers, you wouldn’t have the opportunity to spout your hatred for the free market principles that have made American football the city on the hill jesus talked about when walking on the water to help preserve fishing stocks for the working man!
Why do you hate America?
The police department has been asked to cut the most dollars — $15.9 million — of any department. That’s the equivalent of laying off the 251 workers who serve as captains, lieutenants, dispatchers and entry-level officers.
No problem. Just send the defensive line out next time there’s a bank robbery, a murder, or a surplus of doughnuts.
@10
The defensive line are the ones committing the murders and bank robberies.
BOHICA, while Paul Allen’s might be the most absurd at least HIS game of chicken was with his creditors (and he got spanked over it). Let us not forget the 2001 renovation of PGE Park, (that we’re still paying for) using Marshall Glickman’s (not a billionaire, but still a very rich guy) obviously falsified data of “if you build it they will come” for our minor league baseball team, the Beavers (yes, really).
Because we’re assumed to be really, really stupid: enter Merritt Paulson, new Beavers owner and son of former Treasury dude Hank Paulson. Merritt is soon bored with his toy and wants major league soccer. Guess who pays for that??? Not Merritt!
Not only are we now renovating the recently re-renovated stadium with tax dollars, but (thankfully shot down) at one point Merritt wanted our cash strapped city to use low income neighborhood URBAN RENEWAL FUNDS (yes, the same that normally forestall evictions or provide seed money for tiny businesses for poor people) to build a brand new stadium for the minor league baseball team above.
Because again, beer vendors and maybe one super cute college girl to do promotions part time are really gonna bring us back to prosperity. I always thought one could see how really crappy the deal must’ve been since Daddykins couldn’t find any investors for sonny-boy.
Oh and all the interest-free loans that Sage Hospitality has yet to pay the city back when they went ridiculously over budget for their glorified Embassy Suites downtown.
Yup and the gas pipeline explosion in San Bruno shows just how you can cut fire and police – we don’t need them! We need T&A cheerleaders who will surely run in to rescue people in an emergency. Oh, wait…all that plastic and silicone getting near a fire…bad idea.
I’m not sure how the blackout relates to the city financial troubles and Chargers wanting a new stadium, but I hardly think this is “hilarious”.
What about the restaurants and bars that show the games, and depend on that income from fans who want the product? And the staff that work there? In a recession?
Is that “hilarious”? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
You want to blame? Blame the NFL’s heartless and archaic blackout rule itself. Blame the Chargers poor performance against the Jets. Blame the Chargers genius marketing department, that didn’t make single game tickets available until like 2 weeks ago or something.
This isn’t just hurting the Chargers.
Well, yes, but more importantly why do you hate JuiceBoxJesusTebow?
It’s all the damn regulations. Miracles from the marketplace are being denied San Diego’s residents and they’re paying the price. If they were allowed to cross State lines (a right that’s constitutionally guaranteed to all natural born citizens**) to buy their fire & rescue services in North Dakota or Delaware etc. they wouldn’t be in this mess. And everyone knows that more money in their pockets means more butts in stadium seats and more butts means more games on free teevee. It’s just the way it works, common sense solutions.
**All same sex twosomes who are obviously an item, and all mixed-race couples are encouraged to check all applicable state and local ordinances before loading up the beach wagon and heading off half-cocked.
I cruised down Garnet St Monday night about twenty minutes before the Chiefs game. The Tap Room, Bubbs, PB Bar & Grill, Longboard, even Rocky’s around the corner from me weren’t exactly packed to the rafters for the game.
But it’s nice weather this weekend, and people are out doing other stuff including drinking
Out of curiosity, what does one “cruise” for on a Monday eve in San Diego? Teabaggers to mock?
I’m guessing every city of any size has a similar story. Here in San Antonio we have a nearly white elephant Alamodome – built after years of nagging and threats (to move the team of course) from the Spurs – then, after what, five years maybe? They whined some more and got a new ! new arena built outside of downtown.
Turns out the conventions that were used as the red herring/excuse for the city to pay for the Alamodome just aren’t enough to keep it filled.
It seems to be doing okay now, but periodically we hear more low grumblings that it’s “crumbling” and needs renovation/repairs/refiguring to be profitable.
We have our second-in-a-row down-to-earth mayor right now, and I don’t think the Spurs/CofC will get anywhere on the issue, at least not during the Great Recession.
Infuriating, isn’t it?
Big ass sandwiches from the Olde City Grille to eat while watching the game.
This endless money grubbing by American major league sports is one of the reasons I rarely watch anymore. I prefer to watch Rugby Union matches. Their fans seem perfectly happy sitting in ramshackle wooden stadiums that are actually located within city limits and accessible by public transit.
Because, of course, fires have never been a problem in San Diego.
In any case, San Diego has to build a stadium in order to provide appropriate seating for Raiders fans when San Diego plays Oakland. So, really, those $400-million seats are meant to be used only once per year.
Back in the day, we made O’Malley build his own stadium. Sure, we gave him the land and a couple of off-ramps but the joke was on him, it wasn’t even our land.
I put up some before and after shots, as tribute to a time when cities knew how to drive a hard bargain.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tirebitersnaps
Hopefully, I won’t welcome you to my world, Tbogg.
Back in ’96, over half a FUCKING BILLION tax dollars to poor old Art Modell, so Baltimore could finally could see Johnny Unitas quivering in some end zone ceremony while the nostalgic chinless burn their mortgage payments for a luxury box so they can yuk it up with the corporate fat cats who pay nothing to be in the same place.
Sure, we have a Lombardi (how Ray Lewis stayed out of prison to earn it single-handedly is a whole other story) but the Ravens fans who commute from the county always bitch about Baltimore’s crime, poor infrastructure, schools and those awful shiftless welfare types who, well…can’t get a job because a facility that operates eight days a year only contributes to .04% of a city’s income.
I’ve been to only one game. It was a free ticket and I brought my own water. Somehow I have a feeling that Indianapolis will have two AFC teams someday.
They’re cutting the police budgets and layin off cops, but I bet they’ll still have money for lots and lots of tasers.
It’s amazing how I have never yet met a person not in the employ of a sports franchise who doesn’t grumble about how these stadium deals are outright theft of the taxpayers by the rich. And yet the stadiums still keep getting built. You’d almost think ordinary people and their concerns don’t matter or something.
See, here in San Francisco we don’t put up with that shit. Back in ’87 the Giants tried to shove Prop W down our throats to finance a new ball yard and the electorate told them to fuck off.
So the Giants built Pac Bell with private money and seat licenses (that’s right, Pac Bell…it’ll always be Pac Bell).
Hell, I chipped in 3 grand for a couple of upper boxes (we call ‘em “view boxes” here), which turned out to be a terrific investment tho I let ‘em lapse in ’08.
The Niners won’t get a dime of public money to re-build Candlestick, not in this town.
So that and the rent control and the public health care I enjoy marks us as Communist, America-hatin’ bastards, but you can’t win ‘em all…
Bread and circuses, but now the fans have to pay for both the bread and the circus. But wait. They always did, really. At least twice. And it’s always the whatever-it-is that’s truly wonderful and noble in the game, the athletes, the gladiators, that ends up getting compromised. Or as one writer puts it, The Sadness of the Ancient Romans.
Hey, what about when the Rams come to…never mind. L.A. is nothing, NOTHING without an NFL team. And doomed, also.
Welcome to the new Gilded Age.
Of course, Spanos is a long-time Republican sugar daddy.
Using Public money for entertaining the masses? Isn’t that Socialism?
WWGD?
What Would Galt Do?
See, here’s the deal. The Chargers Organization and Spanos will tell you that the Dems are commies and that spending tax dollars will never, ever create one job….unless it’s spending tax dollars on their hobby horse, then the public money will create endless jobs, add dollars to the local economy and everybody will be employed and live happily ever after.
Now, why they can’t spend their own fucking money to create local jobs and employ everyone, who will then ride unicorns to work, because they love our fair San Diego and are San Diego boosters and patriots, I don’t know. But, according to him, if San Diegans, who aren’t busy sweeping away the cinders from their driveways and navigating through potholes-riven streets when lucky enough to have a job, had any kinda loyalty to their community, they should show Spanos some love.
I don’t know why all cities don’t get together as a huge municipal union and tell all of them to go pound sand, just like the folks in San Francisco. I’m a Charger fan. I just hate being blackmailed.
I know in Massachusetts, the state only paid for highway improvements around the Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and one of the reasons Fenway Park is still around is the politicians refused to pay for a new baseball facility. And I’m pretty sure the New Boston Garden (whatever name it goes by today) was also primarily paid for by the owner.
NYC voters also nixed public funds for some kind of pro-ball stadium (football?). Gary Becker, a famous Chicago school economist once wrote a Newsweek column against such handouts, and iirc, also pointed out that when owners paid for their own stadiums, teams stayed where they were.
On edit: Of course, because they couldn’t be bribed away to another town by a free stadium.
David Kay Johnston has gone after this sort of stuff very well.
This is pretty good.
I’m no anthropologist, by a long shot, and I hate watching any sport, including the ones I did, but as I understand it, pro-sports are about tribalism.
I’ve never been able to understand (actually, never really wanted to understand) this inordinate fascination with these kinds of sporting spectacles, whether it be football, basketball, baseball, hockey or whatever. When I flip by this stuff on the electric TV box, I invariably think, “Wasn’t this same shit on yesterday?”
I resemble that. OTOH, my son is a strong pro-sports fan, esp baseball, which bores me to tears. And it is completely self-generated on his part, since there were no sports fans in his life except one uncle.
Mr Pierce offers a similar perspective as Mr Bogg
I enjoy Pierce.
That’s so true. I’d make the additional point that there isn’t all that much difference in the essence of sports fanaticism and political party fan-dumb.
Z
Oh, and all those subsidies, and they still can’t charge prices low enough for small people to afford.
Yep. Thanks for making the connection explicit.
Except for when both political “teams” suck, like today, at which point the
fansvoters stop identifying with their political tribes.Why does the fact that Spanos is a longtime Republican sugar daddy not surprise me?
Probably because Carl Pohlad, the late Twins owner, was the richest man in baseball (three times Steinbrenner’s fortune) and yet wouldn’t spend dime one of his own dough if he could avoid it. His kids aren’t quite so cheap, which is why the Twins might actually play deep into October this year. Yeah, we instead of the Pohlads had to front most of the dough for Target Field, but it’s a very good investment and it has drawn a lot of business downtown — as opposed to the Dome, which sat off in an industrial no-go zone far away from the rest of the city. (Plus, it’s very easy to get to by bus, bike or train.)
about that new stadium . . .
linky
How y’all doin !
chuckling – and another Regnery best seller, I see
Ticketmaster-Qualcomm Stadium -Sep 19
FIELD LEVEL: $98.00
PLAZA LEVEL: $98.00
LOGE LEVEL: $98.00
PRESS LEVEL: $98.00
LOWER VIEW LEVEL – ROW 1-4: $79.00
VIEW LEVEL – ROWS A & 5-18: $79.00-$74.00 UPPER VIEW – ROWS 19-26
I’m referring to the ones that still do, hence the term “fan-dumb”. It’s all about the D or R to them and they don’t care what the hell “their” party does … the other side is always worse … they only care about the joy of “winning”.
Z
I’m no sports fan either but the same thing seemed to happen here in Tampa last weekend. There was much grumbling and cursing when the Buccaneers season opener was blacked out on local TV.
With a 14+% unemployment rate locally I’m not sure who they think will pay nearly $100 to watch a game. There aren’t enough rich retirees around here to fill a stadium. Be interesting to know how many franchises end up blocking out games due to the depression.
Just want to say, funny caption to that photo )
Im not saying the economy isnt bad, it sucks big big time, but SO Cal and sports attendance can be spotty. It seems counter intuitive with such a vast population, but the competition for entertainment dollars, including about a dozen other pro sports options somtimes means means spotty attendence. Personally i wouldnt care if the NFL folded tommorow. maybe then people who should be worried, WOULD be worried.
plus this early in the season they are competing with USC.
A couple of years ago San Diego had a really devastating wild fire that burned big swathes of the county. The county consists of a number of separate fire depts with loose affiliation with one another and not quite enough equipment. After the bad firestorms, there was a local initiative on the next ballot to raise taxes some way (forget how) to combine the various depts and buy more equipment. Needless to say, it didn’t pass.
When we have big fires in SoCal, we expect fire depts from other states to come here and rescue us.
Paying for our own fire depts and equipment = horrid socialism.
Expecting someone else to rescue us and foot the bill = the free market at work.
Never expect conservatives to pay for such socialistic junk as public safety, maintaining infrastructure, g-d d*mned public schools with horrible unionized teachers getting paid something reasonable, libraries, and services for the elderly and disabled (who should get off their lazy entitled socialized @sses and get a job). But peons paying for a new sports stadium for our obscenely wealthy overlord is libertarian free market at its best.
Go figure, but my conservative pals are much more willing to see sports stadiums built than to support anything useful for our county.
And so: on it goes….
Well, you either want professional football or you don’t. If you don’t want to build a stadium, then the team eventually goes away. It’s not like the $600 million to build a stadium gets dumped into a big pit and set on fire; people get a few hundred million dollars’ worth of jobs out of it.
And the Alex Spanos is an asshole argument is moot. Virtually the entirety of professional sports teams are owned by money-grubbing billionaire assholes who stuff the pockets of Republicans.
Ah, whatever.
It appears from a number of the comments that some not only disdain to watch sports, but obviously never participated in a team sport of any kind. To paraphrase Churchill, it looks like upcoming elections will have been lost on the playing fields of Super Mario or the heights from which we have assiduously contemplated our own flawless navels.
Did anyone else notice that this post is NOW IMPROVED WITH BOOBIES, an upgrade from the previous group kick.
Andrew Zimbalist, professor of economics at Smith College, has been writing about this nonsense for years. Note that he is a REAL economist, who is routinely trashed with the same enthusiasm usually reserved for global climate change proponents by the usually (often overlapping) collection of nitwits and self-interested owners.
Here is his opinion in a nutshell:
A: I don’t think sports contribute to economic viability in a community.