I’ll bet L&TC got some kick-ass bedtime stories back in the day.

Whichever Louis it was that got shortened a bit said, “Apres moi, le deluge.”

I think we could update that by saying “Apres Mardi, le delusional.”

With apologies for the shitty francais – hey, high school was 30 years ago, asshole.

Hey, if you’re in Utah, you must be viewing some especially fabulous political ads.

I can’t figure out your itinerary, but I do know it was post-season regionals in New England this last weekend, with NCAA’s spots on the line (at least for Div III — I assume it’s the same for other div’s). Anyway, enjoy the soccer and your beautiful daughter and don’t let all this other shit get you down. It’s very hard letting go of being a soccer-dad/mom, as I know.

I have come to the conclusion that the congressional Democrats are going to be so happy on Tuesday.
After a four-year national nightmare of productive and progressive legislative sessions, they’re going to lose control of the House of Representatives on Tuesday. This means they can breathe a sign of relief because they won’t be responsible anymore for how bad things are.
And with any luck, the Dems will retain the Senate, so then the Republicans won’t have to accept any responsibility either for doing anything whatsoever about how bad things are.
Win-win.

Wait, is Nader running again?

Which progressive blog is saying that it’s better that Republicans take over the House tomorrow. Link?

I voted in WA (via absentee ballot) so I didn’t really have to grit my teeth over anything.

But damn, there sure were some wacky referenda that I couldn’t make sense of.

If Rossi wins it’ll be another reason to hate Seattle.

Ya gotta admit those giant red bluffs and buttes around St. Geo really are extravagantly beautiful at dawn and sunset.

thank you!

A classic revived.

Fine post, Tbogg. You’re pretty much the reason I come around anymore.

OT

World Series Champion San Francisco Giants.

I love the look of those words in that order.

/OT

San Fran beat the hell out of Texas.

It’s a sign.

The Dems keep the House and Nancy keeps her job.

“Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land”

Well. maybe you don’t, but I live there. Usually starting around 5:00 PM each day.

And Cliff105, what a joy it was to see the glum faces on George and Laura as Lincecum sent Ranger and Ranger back to the dugout.

Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land, indeed!

That’s “Ranger after Ranger”

May I just add that, in certain European countries, they have PR and sometimes the Greens win enough seats to be pivotal in forming a coalition government?

We don`t live there either. We have majoritarian first-past-the-post elections that have HUGE incentives generating a two-party-system. There are two options in your district/state/country: you win or you lose.

And no, change is not coming soon, given the incentives for the status quo players.

A more staggering blow from the rethugs hit home for me. My wife is Chinese and this would have been her first chance to vote. When her coworkers told her how Democrats are lying and manipulating I would counter and tell her of the kind of people she knows and the party they belong to. The closer to being teaparty the likelier that they don’t tip or tip very grudgingly and usually less than 5%. I thought she was ok with things but last night she let me in on how the poor get all these free things and how working folks pay for it all. *sigh*

Thanks for the re-post of that. I remember the left also refusing to vote for Hubert Humphrey, letting Nixon win. Left-wing sanctimony exists and it isn’t pretty.

Well, the choice where I live is worse or worser. And really I only voted for one worse who promised not to cut social security, no matter what the party currently in the white house wants who I guess is better than the other old guy would have been, or so I’m told. I guess I’ll just have to take that on faith though.

The time to get involved is tomorrow when one might make a difference (probably not) in the type of candidates who are running next time.

Today…………beat up straw men much?

Welcome to Feenix – papers please!

You know who else was the Rainbow Sunshine Queen? Hitler! We sprites and elves and woodland creatures say, “Take back Happy Fairy-Tale Gumdrop Land!”

I don’t think it’s cool to imagine Feingold out of the Senate, replaced by Rand Paul, The Witch from Delaware and the rest of the special ed rejects who are so eager to get in there and show us how they can totally run the show…

But I can’t for the life of me see how continuing to uncritically support the Democratic party and its pathetic candidates simply because they’re “not Republicans” and “not Ralph Nader” is any less stupid than looking for an alternative.

I’m fortunate enough to live in VT (Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land, except with more snow, moose, and maple syrup) where Bernie Sanders has shown that being truly Independent is feasible and effective if you genuinely build the kind of community support that all the candidates like to talk about, but few really bother to go out and build because it’s just so much easier to prostitute yourself to special interests, toe he party line, and buy a shitload of TV ads with the money from the boys in DC. Then you go to Washington and don’t rock the boat, and once in a while you go back to get re-elected on the “I’m not a Republican and tbogg says you’re an idiot if you even think of voting to the left of me” ticket. Nice.

I don’t have a Mumia sweatshirt. But I’m sorely tempted to ask any D candidate who comes begging for money and support to at least a) explain their perceived benefit from being part of the rotten Democratic Party, and to b)consider a run as an independent instead.

Your Mumia rant is still cute and, there’s nothing like a re-run of the adorable Nader bashing to really raise the spirits on election day, is there? I confess I still don’t fully get it: voting independent may be retarded, but explain to me why isn’t it just as stupid and delusional to keep going back to Emanuel & Co. for more abuse every couple of years? (“No, no, this time they’ll really work for change, trust me”…)

I’ll go Blue today, but a progressive challenger to Obama–and there will be one–is going to make things very interesting indeed.

But, you see, in our modern political system, liberals are always obliged to vote for Democratic politicians, while Democratic politicians are obliged to vote against liberals. I think that’s the motto of the DLC.

Good one!

Have you not heard that insulting those you wish to convince of your viewpoint is not a strategy for success?

As for your supposed robust realism, maybe if you’re lucky, establishment Democrats will put out a cigarette in your face as a way of thanking you for your support.

You’re right. Vote for Palin.

I remember the 2005 World Series where the White Sox played the Astros, and Babs had a seat behind home plate directly in the line of the camera (I don’t remember HW being there).

You saw her face on every at-bat. Somehow she managed not to pick her nose the whole 9 innings, because we all would have seen it.

But I can’t for the life of me see how continuing to uncritically support the Democratic party and its pathetic candidates simply because they’re “not Republicans” and “not Ralph Nader” is any less stupid than looking for an alternative.

Yeah…. how’s that search going for you?

FWIW, I’ve linked to this post at least a dozen times since it was first published. Pure brilliance.

‘Fluffy Bunny Bund’ is still epic.

If I had to pick my tribe, it would be the Fluffy Bunny Bund.

no, it’s not. But I would take that any day of the week over Reichtard triumphalism and reactionary racism.

If the consequences of Humphrey losing to Nixon, Carter losing to Reagan, and Gore losing to Bush don’t clarify the matter for you, perhaps Bernie Sanders can. I’ve heard him explain pragmatism and plead for the defeat of Republicans many times.

Fluffy Bunny Bund

Fluffy Bunny Bund
Ain’t nothing but mean rodents.
Do not fuck with them!

I do share your frustration thingwarbler, and I respect your opinion, but I think Tbogg is dead on. If someone is trying to burn down my house(see the crazy right), I’m not going to help him by splashing gasoline on the siding.

And the search for perfect politicians is like bobbing for apples in a 200 gallon tank of water. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it not long ago that some in these parts (thankfully, not here in Puppy Corner) were threatening to burn Sanders at the stake?

That’s not saying we don’t try to find better and smarter reps, and hold them accountable, but damn, the She-wolf and her kind are at the door.

Sorry for all the metaphors, I switched to a stronger brand of coffee today and I am feeling creative.

Hang in there.

My analogy to the nose cutting face spiters has long been, “it’s akin to asking to be put in foster care because you didn’t get a pony for Christmas”. Don’t get me wrong, I think we try to compromise far too often and I like Russ Feingold, but really “sending a message” like this is just beyond stupid.

That said, let’s get real about what the results will be: Puggies take the house with a teeny 17 seat majority (less than 4%), the worst part, seriously, will be looking at Boner and listening to teatards smug for awhile. But this will truly be their high water mark. They’ll acomplish nothing, hopefully the economy won’t retank–and when Snotard Snooki runs for prez in 2012 (oh, please, oh please) or even Mormon Mittens—we’ll take backthe house easily. We’ll keep the senate, though losing Reid as majority leader, won’t be such a bad thing after all.

Of course, THIS doesn’t include the fact that so many races are sooo close that it might be next spring or summer before we fully know everything, anyway.

A classic, indeed!

Surely to be enjoyed for years to come in “The Best of TBogg”, along with the one where Ed Ames throws a tomahawk into Ross Douthat’s crotch.

Seeing as how the Repugs have done so well with “just say no,” I think they’ll continue this plan, and try to sell the point that if they could only add the Senate and the White House in 2012, they could get things done. If the economy continues as it is today, this could work with the American public. Unfortunately, the Repugs will probably do everything they can to make sure the economy sucks for the next two years.

I don’t doubt that will be their strategy, but I also don’t doubt it won’t really work. Getting elected for the teabaggers is/was the easy part, getting anything done with a tiny majority is the hard part, cutting taxes while reducing the deficit is impossible. And all the Puggie candidates on the horizon piss off varying elements of their base.

Factor in the Dems will move to the left (most of the Dems losing thier seats are blue dogs) and our party will once again be enegized to vote. We aren’t losing seats because anyone LIKES the Puggies, we’re losing because OUR base either can’t be bothered or is “sending a message”.

Actually, the eocnomy remaining sucky would BENEFIT the Dems in 2012—people are frustrated and painfully short sighted, so they’ll do anything different, no matter how dumb it might be. And never forget today’s “refreshing outsider” (teatard) is tomorrow’s ineffectual nutjob (teatard)

I don’t think Tbogg is asking for uncritical support. Ctriticize, yes, but on election day do your duty and vote against Republicans.

When does Lincecum become available? The Yankees want to know.

Why vote Democratic?

There isn’t an influential part of their supporters that think dinosaurs coexisted with humans.
http://wsws.org/articles/2010/nov2010/pers-n02.shtml

Watching my neighbours over the back fence, up here in Canada, it is like watching an abusive psychotic husband moving back in. And she’s helping him move in, carrying one end of the sofa despite her unhealed broken arm.

so what your saying is for the House I should vote for the woman who doesn’t support any of the core democratic issues, thinks health insurance reform costs too much, the stimulus didn’t work and that financial system reform is a bad idea and won’t vote for Pelosi for House leader, versus the other woman who believes all the exact same things.

And for governor I should vote for the guy that wants to drastically cut the state budget and likely put me out of work rather than the guy that doesn’t. That makes sense only in the land of party allegiance uber alles.

I guess I missed where Sarah Palin was on my ballot.

What polizeros said. Yeah, I know all about 1968 and 2000. I am old enough to remember both. But between the catfood commission and anti-abortion extremism of health whatever reform, the legacy parties have gone out of their way to insult us. It is not about punishing the Democrats any more, it is about doing the hard work to build an alternative, you have to begin sometime, for many of us, this is the year we begin.

This isn’t just Naderites anymore. It is worker bee Democrats like Rochelle Sivan and Jerome Armstrong and just about every women of my acquaintance north of 40. Sneer all you want, but that is not going to win any votes.

You are right Humphrey would have been better than Nixon. On the other hand Nixon would be better than Obama, so there you have it.

The time to raise all these “not the best Democrat they could be” issues is during the primaries. We had our shot to send a message, now to accept the results of that and vote for the Lesser Evil, if that is all that is available. A Democrat voting for a third party now is effectively a vote for the Republican, and that is, IMHO, a Bad Thing.

So Bill C, are you in South Dakota (a very red state, as I’m sure you’re painfully aware) or San Diego?

Either way, in the case of the house, sounds like you have a blue dog candidate—who might only be saying those things to to get elected (especially if you’re in South Dakota). OR illustrates how most of the Dems losing their seats are doing so because the party needs to move further to the left. That said, I’d still vote for the Dem, if only to save my eyes from the Orange Horror for 2 years.

For, guv, look at the other issues. Plus, I thought the Republicans were all about cutting spending so we can all be shocked when our services are cut, we have to pay more for stuff, etc.

I can’t wait for tomorrow when the Dem capitulators begin wrending their garments and threaten to move to Canada because we didn’t vote for their quisling accomodationists.

Oh yes. It was a dominant opinion in comments over there and even some of the frontpage writers that Bernie was a sell-out. So is Dennis Kucinich. Van Jones. Jared Bernstein. Nancy Pelosi. Donna Edwards. Raul Grijalva. and on and on…basically anyone that talks positively of President Barack Hussein Obama and all they and he have accomplished.

Quite possibly the most productive 2 year legislative session in any of our lifetimes. You know, just a little thing like that, and because of that, NOW is the time to take on the Dem Party!!1! Right when they’ve clearly stopped the rightward swing of pendulum and have begun swinging it back, despite the fact that it’s the Infiltrator Dems (Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, etc) who are forcing everything to be watered down from within their own Party, which was the precisely the plan with the DLC/Blue Dogs all along. But the poutragers insist on wildly shooting their blame-guns at any Dem who shows up on the landscape. And I’m someone who voted for Nader in 2000, and still defend that vote to this day, since the circumstances were entirely different from now (really don’t have time for that discussion).

Damn, I’m on the Board of Directors for a couple of small local nonprofits, and it’s like pulling teeth to get consensus on ordering more staples, ferchrissakes. Can’t imagine how difficult it is to navigate the corrupt cesspool of DeeCee, so I’m amazed at how much they’ve done these last 2 years. They should be getting applauded by any real Liberal.

Great resource here for anyone who cares:
http://www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

Meanwhile, I’ve stayed active with a single-payer organizing group locally. Not sure I’ve seen a single post about that at any of the leading Liberal blogs since the Health Insurance reform was passed, which is helping literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people RIGHT NOW. “True progressives” indeed.

Be sure to VOTE today!

You know, that shit was kind of funny the first time I read it, back in 2008. Back when we could fool ourselves into thinking that after eight years of publicans fucking this country insensate that maybe democrats would be willing to actually make a populist progressive case for government, seeing as how the alternative had royally screwed the pooch, and all.

But after 2 more years of corporate-stoogism- neoliberalism running rampant in the administration, I’m starting to think the Naderites have a point.

Not that withholding votes is such a great idea, but it’s definitely time that everyone to the left of the DLC start coming up with ways to put the fear into the establishment dems. Otherwise it’s just a choice of voting for a quick, violent death, or one by slow strangulation.

And if you wanted that post to be more timely, you could just change the last line a bit:

You don’t live there.

So get back in line, dupes.

Need a little election cheer? ABC just ditched Breitbart. Totally.

Destroying the village in order to save it comes from our occupation of The Philippines.
So, sadly, really no one does pay attention.

Excellent.

I hope tomorrow’s story is that anything less than total complete world fucking domination by the Rs is seen as an electoral failure. Hey, those fairies from San Francisco beat the shit outta the Texas Rangers so anything’s possible.

Wouldn’t it be sweet if Nancy’s still Speaker tomorrow. Yeah, suck on that, Breitbart.

The Fluffy Bunny Bund is just the entry level of the Dead Rabbits Gang in nineteenth century New York’s Five Points. A Fluffy Bunny becomes a Dead Rabbit as soon as they’ve killed a sparkly unicorn.

There is some spot on the Appalachian trail (maybe NH?) where there are aggressive rabbits that will steel hikers clothing and shoes in order to feast on the salt. Apparently, they are mean and brazen, and they know they are too cute for anyone granola type to hurt them.

Oh, my–you are dating yourself, aren’t you? As am I, by admitting that I like it, and that I actually saw the original tomahawking (tho’ I was barely old eough to get the joke).

So I’m sitting here in St. George Utah which is God’s Waiting Room

If you were issued special underwear, I recommend mailing it to Mitt Romney.

I thought we all learned during the Vietnam war (it was in all of the papers) that destroying the village in order to save it was kind of a bad idea.

Unfortunately, America has destroyed saved and freedomed several “villages” since then.

Re punishing Obama for not being the Democrat he promised he was during the campaign two years ago. It would be a mistake for Democrats to blame voters for the fuck ups they are. If The Walking Dead is a parable for America and it can easily be viewed that way, Republicans, Big Finance, and Big Unregulated Greedy Inc. are America’s zombies. Sensible people don’t compromise with zombies. Sensible people don’t spend their days endeavoring to be liked by zombies.

Obama needs to be tough. He needs to get mean. He needs to defend and fight for his principles and let the chips fall. If America gets testy he can say this is what you elected me to do and I’m doing it.

He should have brought Glass Steagall back; he should have rammed regulation down Wall Street’s throat. He should have been clearer, simpler, and tougher selling public health care. Not only should he have, he could have. Instead, he and the Democrats – with the exception of very few – waffled, stuttered and caved all over the place. He surrounded himself with some of the worst people. And now Democrats are whining the voters are lame. No. THE DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING LAME.

No one, especially me, would argue the Republicans deserve any votes. Republicans are America’s multiplying zombies. I figure that’s why The Walking Dead is so popular. America is being cannibalized by zombie corporations, zombie banks, zombie politicians, zombie grifters and opportunists. And the president just wants everyone to get along.

I think it’s the Dems who need to wake up and realize they’re not in Happy Gumdrop Fairy-Tale Land.

But here we go again with the “teaching the Democrats a lesson in the general election, hah, I win”. So, with that in mind, I’m re-blogging the below because friends don”t let friends vote stupid…

If you’re so much smarter than me, then do what I keep challenging all the other loudmouths to do – come up with a better plan. So far, I haven’t heard it. And I think it’s pretty damn likely you’re not going to manage, to tell you the truth.

Sadly, Americans don’t really have the Dream anymore and those Frank Capra movies lied.

Vote Republican and you get Instant Third World conditions. Vote Democrat and you get Slow Cooking Third World conditions.

Thank you mister “I just got out of college and where’s the fucking job I deserve” barrycocaine. I’m sure your voting “public option write in…lol!” self righteousness will keep you warm tonight and improve your job prospects tomorrow providing, of course, that craigs list adds a job listing for someone looking for a cynical entitled hipster know-it-all child

Fuck yourself, Barry.

Well, I was too young to stay up late and see the original airing, but I enjoyed the annual encore edition for many, many years after.

Tbogg, I consider you a national asset and all, but this Nader bashing at this late date is ricockulous, as a local punk band likes to say.

The Republicans give their base Chief Justice John Roberts and the Democrats give us a cockslap (apologies to Godlstein), and then we get lectured on growing up? It seems to me we’re doing something wrong.

I’ve never understood the calculus here, until A Tiny Revolution spelled it out: http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/003406.html

“For instance, which of the following groups was most responsible for Al Gore’s loss: 1) 97,488 Florida Nader voters, including Greens, Democrats, Republicans, and independents; 2) ~200,000 Florida Democrats who voted for George Bush; or 3) ~1 million Florida Democrats who didn’t vote at all? The untrained observer would naturally pick 2 or 3, but a quick glance at the DBC makes it crystal clear that the correct answer is number 1. Surprising!”

Barry needs to put the crack pipe down. Obama is still the President.

Btw, in all fairness to TBogg, I take from his post this lesson: A person who cuts their nose off to spite their face becomes…a mouthbreather.

so, Tbogg, your little screed addresses none of the factual, valid points raised by the commenter who you quote – instead you are off to gumdrop fairy land?

who needs to grow up here?

TBogg, I’m a big fan, but you missed like Pat Burrell on this one. I realize Nader may well be the reason we ended up with Bush for eight years. I didn’t vote for Nader, and I find him a little creepy. Having said that, the points that the commenter made remain unrefuted by you. Maybe I’m living in Candyland, but I think it’s more than fair to expect more out of the Democrats than we (the left) are getting.

PeterO

p.s. No, it hasn’t kept me away from the polls yet.

Suck my dick, Tbogg. I grew up a long time ago and real Democrats don’t need a piece of DLC shit like you to wise off to them.

Obama needs to be tough. He needs to get mean. He needs to defend and fight for his principles and let the chips fall.

YES! Like Alan Grayson!1!1! And Russ Feingold!1! It’s all so simple from here…at my computer…in a darkened room…by myself…feverishly signing online petitions…

Just swing that bully pulpit around O-man, why don’t cha? Tonight wouldn’t be like this if Orhama-Daley-Goldman-Dimon would’ve just talked tougher!

Has nothing to do with the MegaMedia providing cover for the John “Ohian Tropic” Boners of the world. Nuthin’ whatsoever.

No. Let’s continue to blame America’s first melanin-enhanced President, who clearly doesn’t understand the American electorate. That’s the ticket. Genius.

Looks like you’re lost. You made a wrong turn at Hollywood and Whine.

hmmm, but what about:

1) ~200,000 Democrats in Florida who voted for George Bush
2) Millions of Democrats throughout the nation who voted for George Bush
3) ~1 million Democrats who didn’t vote at all in Florida

and um the decision of the US Supreme Court that actually stopped the recount and made Bush President?

and oh yeah, Joe Lieberman?!?! that pompous buffoon probably drove away tens of thousands of voters.

but anyway, back to the real topic – why would tBogg quote this commenter, only to ignore everything and fly off into gumdrop cuckoo land? That whole word salad with the fairies and whatever doesn’t make any sense at all, and sure doesn’t sound like the way real grown-ups talk.

Here’s a “better plan.” Focus your anger at the real culprits – The MegaMedia owners, who have been poisoning our public discourse for decades, and who have been purposely getting the American electorate to vote against their own best interests. It’s clearly documented all the way back to the early 1970s that this was their plan, and that it would take decades to take hold.

How’s that, champ? Of course, you’re free to continue blaming America’s first melanin-enhanced President, who won when most Liberals said he couldn’t, and who NEVER had 50 votes in the Senate, if you count the Infiltrator Dems like Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, Evan Bayh, etc. Yes, President Barack Hussein Obama, who is now being viciously attacked publicly by the MegaBankers, is clearly who “we” should be focusing all our anger upon. More genius!

Of course, as I’ve been told countless times over at the FDL mothership, I’m a blinded O-bot who is wowed by his ability to read a teleprompter, or his ability to talk extemporaneously…can’t keep track…or the rhythmic use of “ummm’s….” Damn President Barack Hussein Obama!1! And “loudmouths” like Tbogg, too, also!1! He made fun of me too at one point. Damn him11!1 It’s all about me, and how I feel, after all, just like MLK, Emma Goldman, Frederick Douglass, Gandi, Susan B. Anthony, Rosa Parks, and so on taught….if things aren’t just as you want them after 2 years, give up. Forget “incrementalism!” RAWR!!1!

Hey man, I’ll take his place if he doesn’t want to…only if I can use some chocolate syrup…organic fair-trade, that is. None of this Hershey’s shit, awright? Now that’s how big of an O-bot I am, brotha.

If the Dems wanted my vote, they should have done something to earn it.
Proud to say I only voted for exactly 1 Dem today (Illinois governor’s race). The rest were Green or write-ins.

The Dems want to be a centrist aka corporatist party, that’s fine. They can forget about getting my vote in national elections. No more lesser evil!

…and how did that work out for you?

Let me guess….instead of lesser evil, you got evil.

Congratulations to all of you. Your purity remains unsullied and your world vastly improved.

Voters are reacting to the economy. They have stupidly voted for the people who wrecked it in the first place. I predict this will serve the Democrats during the next election because these teabaggers will fail.

Conservative Richard Viguerie:

Richard Viguerie: Republican Party is on Probation

“Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, the GOP is dead”

MANASSAS, Va., Nov. 3, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — “Voters have given Republicans one more chance to get it right,” Richard A. Viguerie said. “They are on probation, and if they mess up again, they won’t get another chance.”

“The last time the Republicans were in charge, they became the party of big spending, Big Government, and Big Business. They abandoned the philosophy of Ronald Reagan and cozied up to lobbyists and special interests. And they paid a price at the polls.

“This year, the Democrats under President Obama and Speaker Pelosi drove millions of voters right back into the arms of the Republicans. But if Republicans return to their bad habits – if they start working for K Street instead of Main Street – they will pay a terrible price. Tea Party voters and conservatives will turn them out in the 2012 primaries.

“People will say: Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, and the Republican Party is dead,” Viguerie said.

There is no way Obama could have fixed the problems in 2 years even with Republican support, which he didn’t have. But he is also a weak leader. He is an effective campaigner. He compromised and apologized for himself continuously. This is not a good strategy, particularly with sociopaths.

I’m seeing the same strategy play out in Canada with disastrous results for liberals. You’ve got to be strong and come out swinging. Feingold didn’t lose because he was tough. He’s a casualty of the Democratic Party’s current fucked up approach in a terrible economic climate.

I predict they’ll recover, simply because the current crop of GOP players has never been crazier. The working stiffs who stupidly voted for them will find this out soon enough.

P.S. I don’t worship the Democrats or any party.

The Democrats were a much lesser evil during the last election. Since then they’ve demonstrated a degree of weakness that leave desperate people feeling they’ve been ripped off. I get that. People who have lost homes, jobs, lives have also lost their minds. I’m never going to fault these people. Frankly, they have no one on their side and they are grasping at straws. Most of them aren’t political bloggers and probably aren’t reading political blogs and have never heard of the Koch brothers. Some of them are full fledged dipshits, but many of them aren’t. They are struggling to survive.

The Democrats with full houses couldn’t manage to find the guts to regulate an industry that completely screwed millions of Americans. They opted not to. I think they are paying the price for that. I hope they learn from it but I’m not sensing they get it. It was utterly shameful for the Democrats to wag their fingers at voters when they couldn’t live up to some of their fundamental promises, like regulating Wall Street.

Apparently the hope and change people now need superhero powers to regulate finance. So what’s the point in voting for them again?

I think the average Joe would have forgiven the bailouts if regulatory teeth had been reinstated and the miserable fucks who received billions hadn’t been allowed to spend millions on themselves.

And then there’s Gitmo, the war in Afghanistan, and don’t ask don’t tell… Where’s that change again? Oh yeah, they couldn’t manage it because it might upset Republicans.

The health care bill was an achievement but the Democrats were very weak in promoting it. They couldn’t be straight forward with citizens if their lives depended on it. No, they obfuscated and apologized and caved all through that. Most voters probably still don’t know how it all works and what the benefits are.

When it comes to fighting Republicans, there are very few strong, straight forward, no nonsense Democrats. I’m sure they feel very lonely.

Catering to Republicans has not paid off has not paid off for Obama. Maybe now he’ll be that courageous guy who stands for something instead of flip floppy guy who wants everyone to get along.

Everyone in this thread is as painfully aware as you are of the corporate conspiracy to defeat all opposition to Unbridled Greed Inc. so you don’t need to lecture anyone.

When you consider how little people are asking (not to have their homes criminally taken from them, to have finance better regulated) your reaction to this election seems somewhat naive.

San Fran beat the hell out of Texas.

It’s a sign.

The Dems keep the House and Nancy keeps her job.

The Dems keep the House Senate and Nancy Harry keeps her his job.

Fixed!

Note to self: never prognosticate after a night of delirious celebration.

“LOL”? What are you, 13 years old? You whiney little twat. You probably don’t know or care that Tbogg has been fighting the good fight for years with his blog.
He’s jumped the dems numerous times for their failings. If you read anything he wrote you would know that.
You’re like an uninvited guest who drunkenly staggers into a party, takes a shit on the coffee table, then bitches because the host complains about the mess.

Since you speak for “everyone” here, I guess I’ll leave the lecturing to you, then.

And yes, people have asked for little, and thankfully have gotten a lot…more than any Dem Congress and Dem Admin has done in my lifetime, by far:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/10/13/905956/-Respectfully,-Mr.-President:-Thank-You!

I am sick and tired of people telling me that Obama could not have done more than he did. We’ll never know will we because he did everything he tried. He cut what he wanted to be secret deals with the pharmaseutical companies, and insurance industries. As part of these deals he cut women’s access to abortion providers even more than they were before. He supported the bank bail out and telecome immunity. He has effectively opposed (no matter what he says) the repeal of DADT and DOMA. Oh yeah, did I mention presidential approved assissinations.

Finally, he runs like cicken little when the right goes boo, see Shirley Sherrod.

Look up feckless in the dictionary, you’ll see his picture.

Actually, that says more about the sad state of democratic party politics for a generation, than it says about what Obama accomplished. He had the opportunity to at least try to accomplish a lot an he, didn’t.

I could no longer vote Democratic in good conscience. They move further and further right after every election. Enough is enough.

The American left is a phantom. It is conjured up by the right wing to tag Barack Obama as a socialist and used by the liberal class to justify its complacency and lethargy. It diverts attention from corporate power. It perpetuates the myth of a democratic system that is influenced by the votes of citizens, political platforms and the work of legislators. It keeps the world neatly divided into a left and a right. The phantom left functions as a convenient scapegoat. The right wing blames it for moral degeneration and fiscal chaos. The liberal class uses it to call for “moderation.” And while we waste our time talking nonsense, the engines of corporate power—masked, ruthless and unexamined—happily devour the state.

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/the-phantom-left-by-chris-hedges/

It worked out pretty much as expected.

Purity – ha – I’m perfectly willing to compromise, but in a compromise – that means I get something in return.

Hey, don’t forget FISA! That’s an oldie moldie.

I’m convinced now, after these last two years watching self-proclaimed “true progressives” CONSTANTLY ignore any good things being done, that no matter what Obama does, you’ll just keep moving the bar and find the next thing to fixate on, which will be the end all and be all. Makes me wonder what is really motivating the Obama-hate in “progressive” circles, which started long before he was sworn in. Hmmmm….Sister Christian, you out there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5unWHvq9ysI

One word for your revisionist history: Nonsense.

http://www.nhe.net/BenTreVietnam/

Though I do have to agree that (almost) nobody pays attention to what’s going on.

And it’s not going to save the totally Democratic Party. Tbogg have you ever heard of “the ratchet effect”? See: http://www.smithbowen.net/linfame/stopme/chapter02.html

We’re getting out!

Sorry, your guess is premature. The R’s have the House. The Dems have a black eye. Now it’s O’s move and also the D’s Let’s see what happens over the next two years, then we can talk in 2012 about how things have worked out.

What I would like to know is, when will somebody start trying to teach the Republicans a lesson? I wish the lesson the Republicans took away from this last election was that the dissatisfied progressives actually have the stamina to see the change process through to the end.

It took 5 Republican Presidents 28 years to execute the plan that got this nation into this deplorable state. And people seriously believe that the Demecrats deserved to be punished because they didn’t fix everything in less than 2 years?

The Republicans deliberately stalled, delayed and obstructed the legislative process knowing that it would benefit them politically. All of you who stayed home or threw your vote away on a candidate that had no chance of winning re-affirmed that that is a winning strategy for the Republicans.

Progressives have two chances.

1. Vote Obama and hope the hell he finally grows a pair, or …
2. Vote Nader and watch the GOP grow stronger.

Either way, we’re screwed.

How about giving Obama the tools he needs in the House and the Senate so that Leiberman and the Blue Dogs don’t have the power to kick him in the balls every time he tries to do something?