Say, you don’t suppose “Little Ross” needs some help in the baby-making dep’t., do you?

what a dick and asshat. So poor people only exist to provide for the rich.
this guy’s new nickname with me is ddd – dirty dick douthat.

Margaret Atwood wrote the book on this attitude — The Handmaid’s Tale.
When I read it 30 years ago, I thought there was no possible way that the United States could ever turn into the kind of authoritarian, fascist, anti-feminist society she described….

The Handmaid’s Tale comes to mind more and more lately. Atwood and Orwell have and had crystal balls, perhaps.

And yet no life is so legally unprotected, and so frequently destroyed.

If small collections of cells are going to be considered an individual “life”, then the amount of brain cells destroyed every time anyone reads a column by Ross Douthat make him a mass murderer on a weekly basis.

What’s most interesting about this one is that he admits that despite the liberal Hollywood meme, Hollywood is essentially entirely cowed by the right wing religious extremists when it comes to abortion, being “uncomfortable” even portraying it as a fact of life.

Then of course he goes on to wish that the rest of the country were as subjugated by the right as Hollywood is.

That is some seriously fucked up shit.

A thousand times, yes.

“This is the paradox of America’s unborn. No life is so desperately sought after, so hungrily desired, so carefully nurtured. And yet no life is so legally unprotected, and so frequently destroyed.”

Well, other than the children who are born in Ross’ world. And the women who bear them. Whatta fucking asshole.

Wait. A teenage girl should carry to term because her baby might be adopted by a rich woman? Yeah, that’s a great reason to bring a child into the world.

Not “A Handmaid’s Tale,” so much as “A Modest Proposal.”

Orwell and Atwood didn’t have crystal balls. It’s just that the Fascist-TeaTard wing of the GOP uses their books as instruction manuals.

Now, if Orwell and Atwood had crystal balls, they would have realized how their works would be used, and offed themselves before having written a single word.

Fucked up beyond words….sure would be nice to have some Sunday doggie pics to help take the edge off this cold, hardheartedness….(Puppy or not, it sure did make it easier to start the week with.)

“Lives are what they are…” Yeah, think of that the next time you masturbate to images of Chunky Reese, Douchehat… Think of all those desperate housewives longing to be knocked up, think of all the little Douchehats you could bestow upon the world. What a pathetic jerk. Oh, and what’s with the “hungrily desired” bit — he wants to have our kids and eat them, too?

Not sure why he doesn’t just come out and advocate for the ability of woman to auction their unborn to the highest bidder on ebay. That’s some civil rights.

I forget, do they sell the girls as Soylent Pink and the boys as Soylent Blue, or is it the other way around?

Because that would accept that women are not only autonomous, but legally able to make contracts and control their own money.

It isn’t Atwood or Orwell, but the Coens that come to mind:

Say that reminds me, how’d you get that kid so darn fast? Me and Dot went in to adopt on account a’ somethin’ went wrong with my semen, and they said we had to wait five years for a healthy white baby. I said, “Healthy white baby? Five years? What else you got?” Said they got two Koreans and a negra born with his heart on the outside. It’s a crazy world.

“Why can’t more women have babies and just give them away? I saw them doing this in a couple of movies and it looks totally easy.”

When I made the mistake of not trusting the shorter and followed the link through to this idiot’s column, it was running an ad for a Ronald Reagan t-shirt with that moronic quote about the only people being for abortion are the ones who have already been born. If only all the unborn people being against abortion would take a cue from us stinking liberals and unionize, they might weild enough power to drag us back into the 19th century, when everything was unicorns and rainbows. No more of these uppity women being allowed to do stuff like vote and decide when and if they give birth.

Aaaand again liburals fail to comprehend teh benefits of the free market. An Im not jus talkin bout a baby market where we need a fuckin law to make sure we fully utilize uteral capacity to fill the demand for White babies. Cause you know the demand fer colored babies doesnt justify the damn welfare subsidies we all pay for a the fuckin OVERSUPPLY of black babies. We would need another kind a law bout that cept we could just keep that supply in check with an efficient market for, you know, parts.

No, no Im talkin bout the lack of supply of pussy ta meat the demand of the Little Dick Army. We need pussy an Amuricans need jobs jobs jobs. So put Amurican women to work an supply the pussy and babies we need an every little dick could have three bitches to supply our demands. Maybe ta Mormons were onta somethin, eh Mitt?

This is the kind of thing where you just want to dope-slap the boy to see if you can unjam the gears inside his head.

Yeah, let’s turn the lower-class into baby factories and cannon fodder for the rich people. That’s a sure-fire ticket to success. And if not, well there’s a whole lot less of the hoi polloi out there. Win-win.

Durham and her boyfriend are the kind of young people our culture sets adrift — working-class and undereducated, with weak support networks, few authority figures, and no script for sexual maturity beyond the easily neglected admonition to always use a condom.

Not that either party has a track record worth bragging about in regards to any of these issues, but isn’t the party Douthat opines on behalf of especially bad on these very issues? Isn’t the right demanding parents get jobs and leave their kids behind every day? And the right’s script for sexual maturity: abstinence. Yeah, that works.

“Abortion should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare.” – Bill Clinton

“But it can also be a form of cultural denial: a way of reassuring the public that abortion in America is — in Bill Clinton’s famous phrase — safe and legal, but also rare.” – Bill Clinton as related by Ross Douthat

And it’s not like the left has tricked the world into thinking that Bill Clinton’s wish has come to pass. Here’s Obama three months ago: “I think Bill Clinton had the right formulation a couple of decades ago, which is abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.”

He doesn’t regard his readers very highly if he’s going to present something as the exact opposite of what it is.

And there are so many things wrong with these two sentences: “Prior to 1973, 20 percent of births to white, unmarried women (and 9 percent of unwed births over all) led to an adoption. Today, just 1 percent of babies born to unwed mothers are adopted.”

1) Why focus on white women?
2) We get 9% -> 1%, but 20% -> ?
3) If you’re pro-life, pro-family, etc, what’s wrong with people raising their own kids? How is this remotely tragic?

He’s also abusing statistics by saying that 1 in 5 pregnancies are aborted (the statistic is 22%, but it’s 5 years out of date; following the trend, we are probably right about at 1973 abortion-per-capita levels). 20% of unaborted pregnancies are terminated naturally, which isn’t unrelated to the fact that over half a million pregnancies that are annually afforded inadequate prenatal care. Regular doctors visits would also reduce the over half a million women who smoke or drink during pregnancy annually. Surely he spends as many column inches talking about these issues as abortion? Douthat’s preferred health plan was the Wyden-Bennet proposal, in which we’d cross our fingers and hope that the magic of the free market would be an adequate substitute for Medicaid and SCHIP. He was also fond of the Ryan/Coburn proposal that would gradually decrease the quality of medical services subsidized for the poor, disabled, and elderly.

“This omission is often cited as a victory for the pro-life movement, and in some cases that’s plainly true. (Recent unplanned-pregnancy movies like “Juno” and “Knocked Up” made abortion seem not only unnecessary but repellent.)”

As someone who works in the film industry, this is a completely incorrect analysis of the ‘year of the pregnant movie’ 2007, (‘Bella’ was another entry into this genre). The reason for movies about pregnancies is that they have stories story to tell. Boy meets girl; boy gets girl pregnant; girl has abortion-end of the story by the first reel. There is no movie to be made from that scenario, (well non to sustain a full length motion picture for 100 minutes at least) and conservatives are always using this logic to make grandiose proclamations about the state of liberal, Godless, baby killing, smut peddling Hollywood.

When will they learn that ‘story’ drives the movie and the movie drives the box office and the B.O. drives everyone home at night ?

I want to know what all these reverence-for-life people had to say about the brutal slaughter of 100,000 actual living Iraqis (est.) “so we don’t have to fight them over here.”

Or is Douchehat channeling his inner communist? From each (pregnant woman) according to her ability, to each (hungrily desiring middle-class white woman) according to her need?

1) Why focus on white women? Because after white men (quite a bit after white men) they are the most important group. Ask Emmett Till.

2) We get 9% -> 1%, but 20% -> ? Well 20% has to go to less than ~4%. Also, this rather implies the adoption percentage of non-white babies was probably less than 5% back in 1973. Both of these depend on the proportion of babies to white unwed mothers. In addition, I seem to recall an estimation that abortion complications were the third leading cause of death for teenage girls before abortion legalization, but I don’t remember where so you’ll have to take that as a McFact.

3) If you’re pro-life, pro-family, etc, what’s wrong with people raising their own kids? How is this remotely tragic?

It’s because unmarried people are still having sex.

That is some seriously fucked up shit.

This should be his permanent byline.

If only all the unborn people being against abortion would take a cue from us stinking liberals and unionize, they might weild enough power to drag us back into the 19th century, when everything was unicorns and rainbows

If the unborn figured out a way to unionize, the Republicans would enact legislation making abortion free and legal thisfast.

Kindasorta OT, but not totally so – the following from a commenter at Roy Edroso’s site, too good not to share, would seem to apply to much of Chunky Reese’s commentary as well:

“Christ, it’s a Jonah Goldberg essay. Looking for an actual argument in there is like taking the back of the TV off during The Lone Ranger so you can grab yourself a miniature horse.”

By the time he’s 60 Douthat will be supporting things like forcing bankrupt poor people to sell off a lung or a kidney to help pay off their creditors.

Because, you know, that way they’ll be able to make a contribution by improving the lives of their benevolent masters. Or something. But yeah, the “Rollerball” world is speeding toward us and the Douthats will be greasing the skates.

Bingo. Sounds like Ross’s swimmers are a little tired, and after an unsuccessful trip to the Snow White Adoption Service, the only thing he could find was a colored and a thin-eye in the remainder bin in a secret ‘doption room in the back of a christian book seller, and well, that ain’t fair!

On the other hand, if the baby market heats up, maybe he can sell some of those derivative thingys, and, when the inevitable industry collapse comes, he can foreclose on some Aryan family’s twins. All’s well that ends well, cuz freedom is for markets, not young maidens.

New Year’s resolution: I will NEVER click through to a Douthat column no matter how much I think, “He can’t actually be saying what TBogg is saying he’s saying, can he?” Oh, yes, he can. I will never doubt TBogg again. On the plus side, though, roughly 90%* of the comments excoriate Douthat for his idiocy.

*If Douthat can pull numbers out of his ass, so can I. Out of my own, not out of his because, ew.

I’d like to lodge a complaint. Normally just reading your shorter Ross Douthat is enough for me. But this post made me actually go and read this post. Now having complained, I will comment.

Whenever I read these kinds of arguments I feel that these kinds of conservative men are essentially romantics. They are not actually in touch with the gritty reality of everyday life that most of us mortals have to contend with.

They focus on the fantasy that accompanies every pregnancy — the perfect blond chubby baby that every white woman carries. The perfect baby that will grow up perfectly, wanted either by its birth parent or one of the myriad adoptive parents that are out there.

The little wonder will flourish on love alone!

He doesn’t sully his mind with consequences beyond the necessary one that must follow every woman who has sex which is the requirement to carry any child conceived.

The impact of another potential human being on anyone else who is already born is not allowed to enter into the equation, nor is the impact of being adopted allowed to colour the rosy outcome all these kids will face in his imagination.

My brothers were born of white mothers back in the 60s who didn’t happen to choose white fathers for their accidental progeny. While this did actually result in a windfall for us, they were unwanted in the system at the time.

Years later when my brothers have met their birth families we have confronted a lot of pain from both mothers and sons.

When I was little and my mom brought home “the new baby” I just accepted it as my new sibling as children do. I(I also have a younger sister.) Now that I am grown up I have learned about the darker side of adoption. I just wish men like Douthat would too.

Unfortunately that would involve respecting the ability of women to make the best decision they can, given their circumstances.

Your snark doesn’t work. Leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Glad you clarified that, because otherwise we’d be planning an intervention.

All true; anyway, it’s not really worth pointing out the factual errors and deceit in an attempt to rationalize an end that’s so plainly wrong in the first place.

Call me naughty, but I’m just glad to see that TBogg brought back the boobies. Sure, they are small and up in the corner of the picture, but they are boobies.

Thank you TBogg, thank you.

The day that women can deduct ‘live’ tax benefits from miscarriages will be the day that these idiots remember that life begins with a first breath. I don’t know if douche has taken a first breath yet; he seems a little plastic to me.

Indeed, much is fucked up with Ross’ math. He starts out with percentages of babies BORN who ended up adopted and ends with how the percentages of BORN babies adopted changed because of the ones who weren’t carried to term. Huh?
And yes, young black and hispanic girls, please continue making babies you don’t want because of course those white upper middle class and rich ladies who put off child bearing for their careers or for fear of ruining their rocking bodies (therefore making them undesirable to any man with money), will definitely want to adopt a baby of “color”. Well, maybe an actress who wants to keep in the papparazzi eye will, the other business women? Not so much.

If I was pulling anything out of Douthat’s hat, I would poke my own eyeballs out with my rusty pitchfork. No intervention necessary.

Okay, just making sure. I think I speak for many that poking your eyeballs out would be a serious blow to the level of discourse here.

Sorry you don’t like how it tastes but behind the snark is the reality of this labor market. The rentier class really really loves this high unemployment, this is the promised land for them and they will pull all of their Republican strings to make sure it stays this way and hope it gets worse. And what they love is a growing underclass that will do anything and pay any price for the mere scraps of life’s necessities. And they really love what that desperation does to women. So it is not mere snark to point out that it includes selling their bodies in every way imaginable. And probably in many many ways that we can’t imagine. yet.

Correction; And what they love is a shrinking middleclass that will do anything and pay any price for the mere scraps of life’s necessities.

Gotta admit that after Rossie’s latest ejaculation the objection of the Catholic Church to any form of birth control make a whole lot more sense. Would be kind of a market distortion in what deplorably already is a sellers market.

You got that right, tbagga, cheap labor ranks right up there with tax cuts for the rentier class.

Aw, thanks! And, of course, by hat, I meant ass. But, hat works well, too.

I make it a principle to ignore all Catholics who make it their business to opine on morality for the rest of us. Period, full stop.