A perfect shorter. Sadly, Frank Miller really lost it after 9/11. Not that he was ever a model of good mental health (his penchant for sadism and maimings), but he did produce some innovative and influential work. The top comment over there, by Daniel Calvisi, takes Miller to task for abandoning his former anti-corporate stances.

Sometimes, I’m surprised by how many people still absolutely shit their pants at the threat of the dread Islamic menace. It’s been ten years. There’s been enough time for more sober, rational thoughts to trickle in.

(As a side note, I was amused by how 300 managed to be homophobic and homoerotic at the same time, but social conservatives have a talent for that.)

This is a better world: Hot Guys and Baby Animals

What kind of fuckery is this? I don’t even…

Miller’s argument has about the same intellectual heft as the one that says feminists should stop complaining about sexism and inequality in the U.S. because women in Islamic countries have it much, much worse. Apparently Frank has a problem with walking and chewing gum at the same time.

It is only rarely I get to a site like that and read the comments. Should be a virus we could send to any asshat’s computer that posts: “I worked hard and pulled myself up by my bootstraps by joining the Army…” ‘Course it would also have to infect the user as well and rewrite his software.

Actually, I’d argue that Frank Miller didn’t change that much from day one. His comic book work always portrayed a dark, cynical world with heavy fascist undertones, going back at least as far as The Dark Knight Returns.

The only thing that’s really changed is back in the 1980′s, we weren’t sure whether Miller was opposed to or supported this sort of a worldview. Since then, he’s made it abundantly clear that his early work wasn’t a cautionary tale, but a bizarre power fantasy.

Frank Miller? The comic book guy – oops, I mean “graphic novel” guy? Nobody but hard core comic book fans really even knew who he was until the film version of “Sin City” came out. I guess Frankie, like a lot of wingnuts who have failed to achieve any real level of greatness in their chosen professions( see also Nugent, Ted), is just another pissed off old white guy looking for somebody to stomp on. Fuck him!

What Desert Rat said – I saw fascist all over Miller’s world view back in the ’80s and said no thanks. I don’t consider myself prescient at all, but it was a lot more obvious to me than any friends who were over the moon about Miller – especially one who fantasized about being a vigilante. Good thing he was a coward.

I’ll take “People named Miller who lost it after 9/11″ for $200, Alex.

No, Frank really was huge in comics. But back in the late ’80s in an old job, I had to deal with him occasionally. It was obvious even then from how he treated everyone that he felt even common civility was for sissies. Years later, against my better judgement went to see Sin City, pretty sure it stained my soul.

F*ck him.

I hate to be a pain in the keister but Mrs. JP and I are in a bind and have little chance of making the rent this December and may be looking at living in our car for the holidays. We’re both actively looking for work but all the opportunities for me have been co-opted by temp agencies. Details are here and any help would be appreciated.

I’d say that Frank Miller can kiss my ass, but knowing what I know about Spartans, I don’t want him anywhere near my ass.

Sort of my thought. I rather get the impression that he is one of those self-hating closet cases.

What is this post about?

Read the link (unless you mind being egregiously insulted by an ignorant cartoonist with fascist delusions of grandeur).

That could be an issue.

From the link:

Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:

The “Occupy” movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. “Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.

I was just wondering that. I’m clueless about who this Frank Miller is. That’s okay, though – I don’t need to know.

From the comic book, ooops, “graphic novelist” who wrote “300″ and “Sin City.”

I’d like to know where Miller gets his information about thieves and rapists, and why he apparently hasn’t reported it to the police. (What? It’s just a load of inflammatory bullshit that he pulled out of his butt? Why, who could have guessed?)

After the attempts to inform me, I am still clueless. So I’ll wish you all good posting.

It just gets worse. I can only conclude that his sewers backed up into his blog.

sure seems like it. All the 300 I’ve ever seen though has been in It’s Raining Men videos

aHAHAHA

Frank Miller
wiki
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Fuck you, Miller.

I have only seen a few brief clips here and there. From what I can tell, as Batocchio says at the top, it is simultaneously profoundly homoerotic and homophobic. Quite a feat.

there was one commenet there that was very good but it would have gotten me moderated if i pasted it here. an occupation person saying he was full of SHIT

Nuh-huhn! Not even with your equipment and a hazmat suit.

I like the part where the guy who never served in the military tells the entire Occupy movement to enlist. He’s what Ted Nugent would be if Ted Nugent never got laid.

Nugent got laid? Where did he find a deaf, dumb, and blind fascist parapalegic?

Mr Miller makes me proud to be a godless dirty fucking hippie. Wonder how he would feel if the masses were violent.
Thanks TBOGG for vetting.

How did ‘fuck you’ get to be a slam. Sounds like a nice thing to me. I just don’t unnerstand these earthlings. Going back out into space.

I think the only part of it that wasn’t laughable crap was the stuff involving Lena Headey’s character, Queen Gorgo, and the internal politics of Sparta. That stuff was also painfully brief, as Frank Miller found it far more exciting to film sweaty, nearly nude men making angry faces and giving long, drawn out, very un-Spartan speeches.

I’ll always remember the War Nerd’s review of it, he ripped Miller to shreds.

Have to admit that I rather enjoyed Sin City (a big fan of noir), but nothing about this ever seemed even remotely appealing.

Yeah, Sin City was definitely a good movie. 300 was just terrible though, even setting aside the gross historical inaccuracies.

Think I will toddle off. Take care all.

later, doc.

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Who the fuck is Frank Miller?

Firmly spoken, Doc.

Bassett porn, Shakira’s ass, random anal sexual musings, n some sort of peace of mind.

Course, I COULD be wrong.

Not sure any of it matters.

;-)

*who*

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Frank Miller deserves to be airdropped into a war zone by the Iraq war veteran who was assaulted at Occupy Oakland.

From what I can tell, as Batocchio says at the top, it is simultaneously profoundly homoerotic and homophobic. Quite a feat.

Not from a latent–or self-hating–closet case.

300 was just terrible though, even setting aside the gross historical inaccuracies.

Not to mention the racist subtext created by one big example of that grossity. Did you notice how the PERSIAN bad guys were…um….African? Hello? The original blue-eyed Aryans made over into some version of Ethiopians? What the hell was up with THAT?

simultaneously profoundly homoerotic and homophobic. Quite a feat.

Those two things together account for huge areas of modern culture.
A few examples;
The Catholic Church
Football (and, indeed, most sports)
The Boy Scouts
At least half of all videogame culture

David Brin, another sometimes graphic novelist (among other things), rips Miller a new one in his own blog post.

Turns out that, in addition to being homoerotic and homophobic at the same time, 300 is, historically, full of shit.

Imagine that: a right-wing, violence-addicted, homophobe who makes up his own history. Boy, that’s never happened before.

pretty interesting stuff

Miller was something of a revelation, back in the day–and by that, I mean way back in the day, late 70s-early 80s, when he first started working for Marvel, mostly on Daredevil, where his style was quite unlike anyone else’s. I think that the last thing that he did that I particularly liked was Batman: Year One (with David Mazzucchelli, who also did the similarly-excellent Daredevil: Born Again arc, and who is a great artist in his own right). His art in things like the Sin City books and 300 still had flashes of his old brilliance, but his writing has become beyond self-parodying, although he still has his apologists who insist that Miller has to be deliberately taking the piss. I’m not hearing a lot of that rationalization since the publication of Holy Terror, which started out as a Batman story and still reads like Batman fanfic written by a junior high school student with anger management issues and looks like it was drawn on cocktail napkins with a Sharpie.

Miller struck me, in his Daredevil days, as a pretentious pulp wannabe. Then the Dark Knight miniseries came along, and I decided that it was rather good. All four issues. Since then, I’ve looked in occasionally on Miller and it seems like it was a fluke. He went back to being a pretentious pulp wannabe, borrowing fancy clothes right and left to stand in front of a mirror in. Year One wasn’t so bad (though his follow-up to the Dark Knight was weak), but I’m inclined to lay some of the credit to Mazzucchelli, who I had the fortune to meet at a convention where basically nobody else showed up. (Brian Bolland was there too. It was a great con. But I’m rambling now.)