
Since I got nothin’, just wondering if anyone has read Haruki Murakami’s 1Q84 before I commit myself to all 985 pages of it. I hate to not finish a book (the last one I gave up on was Stephen Carter’s The Emperor of Ocean Park which was so infuriatingly awful I actually got up from my chair, walked down to the garage and dumped it in the trash/recycle bin) but 1Q84 sounds interesting; somewhere between a less-playful Pynchon and a less-dreadstruck DeLillo.
The word “realism” is a key descriptive term that readers often apply to certain works of literature without any general agreement about what it actually means. After all, if we cannot agree about what reality is, then why should we agree about what realism is, either? The entire topic dissolves quickly because its scope becomes too large and its outlines too indefinable to be particularly useful. Much of the time, we can talk about fiction without having to take a stand on what is real and what isn’t, although we do sometimes say that this or that event or character is “implausible” or “fantastical,” thereby rescuing truth-value for the plausible and the everyday.
Murakami’s novels, stories, and nonfiction refuse to make such distinctions, or, rather, they display, often very bravely and beautifully, the pull of the unreal and the fantastical on ordinary citizens who, unable to bear the world they have been given, desperately wish to go somewhere else. The resulting narratives conform to what I have called Unrealism. In Unrealism, characters join cults. They believe in the apocalypse and Armageddon, or they go down various rabbit holes and arrive in what Murakami himself, in a bow to Lewis Carroll, calls Wonderland. They long for the end times. Magical thinking dominates. Not everyone wants to be in such a dislocated locale, and the novels are often about heroic efforts to get out of Wonderland, but it is a primary destination site, like Las Vegas. As one character in 1Q84 says, “Everybody needs some kind of fantasy to go on living, don’t you think?”
I’ve noted before that my favorite novel is Robert Coover’s The Origin Of The Brunists (warning: spoliers at the link) which, now more then ever, is a brilliant encapsulation of The Times We Live In; desperate lives lived in economic squalor which incubates fear and madness and a heedless religious fervor for a messiah to rise up and save us all, whether he or she is a smooth talking black man from Chicago or a babbling nitwit from the Alaskan hinterlands.
That having been said, I’m interested in anyone’s comments on 1Q84 or for that matter, anything current fiction related.
As a side note, I’m currently reading Brian Kellow’s Pauline Kael: A Life In The Dark which contains a great line from an early Kael attempt at a screen play: “Mr. Benjamin Burl’s infatuation with himself has become a national romance” which immediately made me think of Newt Gingrich.
Have at it, and remember: Nader sucks and Barack Obama is responsible for everything.
That should get it started…




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Actually Nader is responsible for Obama. Without Nader, no W. Without W, no Obama.
As a side note, how’s the puppy’s wiener?
I have not read this one, but have read a couple of his other novels and enjoyed them, though they can be a bit heavy going at times. Definitely not for everyone. In many ways similar to the Latin American magical realism.
Then there’s “I.Q. 84″, about the Repuke presidential candidates.
Okay, the fact that you are a Coover fan makes me love you even more than I love Shakira’s ass, although I’m a bigger fan of The Universal Baseball Association,… than Brunists but as far as the Murakami goes, I couldn’t commit. I’ve reached the point where if a book doesn’t grab me in 50 pages, I’ll put it down and I was able to put this one down. Your mileage may vary.
Arthur Herzog sees your IQ84 and raises (or rather, lowers) you one point.
Oh, I understand Unrealism entirely. Not a night goes by now, that I don’t venture to Equestria as soon as my head hits the pillow. (Yeah no, my pants stay on, I ain’t that kind of Brony.)
I’ve veered off from fiction and tried out some history. Specifically Tom Levenson’s “Einstein in Berlin” (Tom is an occasional frontpager at Balloon Juice), and John Berry’s “Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927″. Both are of the “overview of an era, through the lens of” genre, and both have the page-turner quality of good fiction.
The Wife just got Stephen King’s 11/22/63 – an alternate reality history on what this country may have been like had JFK not been assassinated in Dallas 49 years ago, today. I think I’m going to enjoy this one.
Funny side story involving King. My wife and I were state delegates for Gary Hart back in 84 and we were invited to a party at Stephen’s house in Bangor, ME. That morning, I split my middle finger wide open on a table saw (I was taking the blade off and the wrench slipped). Got it stitched up and was good to go to the party that evening. I had to hold the bandaged middle finger up all night to keep the pressure and pain away. He got quite a kick out of seeing me walking around giving everyone the finger. Got a peek into his office where he did his writing. He had a Wang word processor and literally stacks of computer prints outs of various books all over the room.
Bleak House. Several hundred pages of Victorian realism. It’s not that different from now, really: wealthy people with secrets, a lawyer who knows all those secrets (or thinks he does), lots of poor people and nearly-poor people….
I have yet to get started on Reamde.
Read it. I’m only 2/3rds or so of the way through 1Q84, but it’s been utterly compelling so far.(Well, okay, there was a bit in the beginning that seemed to drag, but I managed to get through it.) Well worth the effort and I’m not a big Murakami fan even.
Tabitha King (Stephen’s wife) occasionally reads this blog and once emailed me about a grammar issue in something I wrote. If I remember correctly, I think she said she and her husband were fans which was all kinds of cool.
Universal Baseball Association by Coover is damn good, one of the best books I’ve read but now I’m going to have to tackle the Brunists. I haven’t read Marukami but I did start Emperor of Ocean Park. I’ll let you know if it avoids the trash bin.
“a less-playful Pynchon”?
I’ve tried to read Pynchon a few times and I never get far. Never understood the attraction.
Meh… just finished Anathem (Stephenson’s previous) and it was a very mixed blessing. Sure, he spins a great yarn, but it got a little long in the tooth after a while. Kinda glad to be done with it, which isn’t my usual reaction to Stephenson…
Even if I’d read IQ84 my judgement is in question, I made it all the way through “The Emperor of Ocean Park”. Spoiler: the dad did it.
OT: heard today that Orton was let go by the Broncos. How soon until Weblow runs himself into a major injury and they are left completely QB-less?
Shameless name dropper.
I don’t know about this 1Q84 book, but I just finished reading Umberto Eco’s The Name of the Rose.
It was right at 600 pages. A little slow at times, but a fantastic read.
I saw the movie some time ago, and thought it decent enough when I remembered it the other day and got the book from the library.
Yes, we have libraries in Oklahoma. No, it wasn’t crowded, and you’re welcome for the set-up…
I working on “Against the Day” (Pynchon), and the only way I can describe it is Mark Twain on steroids.
I’ll finish it, but it will take a couple more weeks. 1000+ pages and it doesn’t feel like there is any fluff.
The realism/reality discussion in the first quoted paragraph reminds me of something I read today regarding Congress:
If you liked Name of the Rose, I recommend An Instance Of The Fingerpost by Ian Pears. Brilliant stuff.
Shanghai by David Rotenberg. 750+ pages, but worth the effort.
When you’re done with the long, exhausting reading that wraps up “today” (I’m just recovering from David Simon’s Homicide — long, long, good, but long). I recommend something, well, elsewhere. I’m recovering with Andrea Camilleri’s latest (title is something about a pot). You’d like Camilleri, if you don’t already know his novels/”mysteries.” Sicily. The hero’s not phlegmatic, really. Just sort of hanging in here. No bassets. But he lives on the sea. He really loves a good seafood dinner (which, after all, Sicilians are the best at). And he struggles to get it right with Livia. And everything sort of limps along. (And the fish and pasta are really good.)
Does not surprise me in the least…the Kings enjoy top shelf snark…who doesn’t?
In other news,
WillardMitt Romney just cut a second video ad tonight – apparently he’s now endorsing Obama. Not sure if this the flip on the flop, but it’s quite compelling and no less truthful then his 1st one.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4uMW84GkY
I’ll spot you that on Gravity’s Rainbow, but I laughed out loud at Vineland, once I realized it was a comedy and let myself get past the whole “Pynchon thing.” It helped that I was living in Northern California, which made the book feel a little closer to home.
Incendiary, by Chris Cleave (I think), but if y’all liked Vineland and King’s novels, maybe not. Otherwise, a totally novel novel. But for fsake don’t watch the movie of it which sucks.
I bought 11/22/63 to save as a read for the holidays. I was only going to sneak a peek at it last night and ended up over a hundred pages in.
I’ve really tried to like Eco but, alas, just don’t. But Ian Pears is excellent.
It’s funny how certain authors really appeal to certain readers; a lot of my friends are big Pynchon fans but I’ve never been able to get into his stuff, after trying several times, even though it is exactly the kind of thing I SHOULD love. I know sometimes it’s an issue of getting in sync with the author’s voice; I was able to do that with Faulkner after some plodding and patience, but with some others, it just never clicks. That having been said…I’ll read anything by Salman Rushdie, Louis de Bernieres, and on the non-fiction side, Michael Pollan or Erik Larson…there’s a lot of others, of course. Did a re-read of Gunter Grass’ The Tin Drum not too long ago and as before, for several weeks have been walking around saying, “It was I, Oskar…” Another book I have a real fetish for is Santa Evita by Tomas Eloy Martinez – I’ve probably read that thing 5 or 6 times, precisely because the line between what’s real and what’s fiction is so blurred (it’s all about the post-mortem wanderings of Eva Peron’s eternally-preserved corpse, which became a political football in the aftermath of the Peron regime’s fall).
Candice Millard’s Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine and the Murder of a President, about the Garfield Assassination, is excellent so far – I’m about 60 pages in. Also reading 11/22/63, but I’m going to leave it home while traveling during the holiday – as with most King books, it’s just a bear to pack around (yes, I know there’s a Kindle version, but I got my copy from the library and I’m not going to buy it).
p.s. I know you enjoyed the latest Tom Perrotta book. He’s coming to campus in March and I’ve been asked to introduce him. Oy vey.
Thanks!
Oh My!
Welcome to the Reality Based Community tbogg, even if the guy is better than the Mittster.
Handsome Harry - James Carlos Blake. Blake does Dillinger from the Harry Pierpont perspective. What you would expect – Ultraviolence and Lurid Sex that soars on occasion into the mythic… My daughter calls Blake a poor mans Cormac McCarthy – (to which my son replied – Oh, You mean you can actually read him…)
IQ84 has been sitting on my nightstand for about three weeks. We have been having a staredown, and I haven’t yet summoned the courage to flinch and crack it open. Probably soon.
I did just finish David Mitchell’s The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet . Highly recommended. Greed, government corruption, grifting, religious zealotry gone wild. All taking place within the Dutch East India Company and turn of the 19th Century Japan, but may as well be modern ‘Murika. Love Mitchell, IMOP, simply one of the best ‘youngish’ writers out there.
Agreed on An Instance of the Fingerpost….Pears’ best, by far…
Nader sucks and Barack Obama is responsible for everything.
Yep. That’s my take on it too.
You sir, should be noted for your clarity of vision…
mikey
Murakami is an excellent writer, but a bit long winded (and I read all of Neal Stephensons Cryptonomicon series) This book (100 pages into it) seems to be his usual well crafted work.
Heh! I first read the book’s title as “IQ84″, so that fits. Though in the case of Ricks Santorum and Perry that might be generous.
Oh, my. If Tebow were capable of coherent thought, he’d be Tebowing to Yahweh his thanks that he only had to face Ndamukong Suh once this year.
Have you noticed that more men than women are into Pynchon? I read Gravity’s Rainbow and liked it when I was a senior in high school, but once I got into my mid-20s he seemed a bit too egotistically cute, authorially, for his own good.
By the way: If there’s still anyone around who hasn’t read Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey-Maturin novels, please do so with all deliberate speed. (You have to be a tad patient with Post Captain, the second in the series, but do read it as there are a lot of storylines and characters who are introduced in that book.)
Weird. Not what you said, but synchronicity. Having packed the current and next for the holiday trip, I reread the first chapter of _How To Read Literature Like An English Professor_ while waiting for the washer to finish this morning. The chapter about quests (once you have that figured, it’s all downhill), and he said he always teaches _The Crying of Lot 49_ because it is the greatest quest novel written in the last hundred years. Not easy, but worth it. Me, I haven’t yet gotten much past the alligator hunters in _V_; three or four times.
I dunno. My friends who read Pynchon are all women, and I don’t know all that many guys who read any fiction at all, unless it’s sci-fi or detective/mystery type stuff. My brother’s like that – he’ll read any good non-fiction I send him, but never gets around to Rushdie.
A few years ago a guy online was really impressed that I had read Infinite Jest, because he just couldn’t imagine a woman reading it and liking it. It had never occured to me that it would be considered a “guy’s book” but that was his take. Though now that I think of it, there probably aren’t all that many women who would be into The Tin Drum to read it more than once, so I guess there probably are some gender differences in reading preferences.
OT, but you got a shoutout from Charlie Pierce today…
And Happy Thanksgiving, too.
It’s sitting on my shelf. I’ve been eyeing it. Thanks for the question.
An Instance of the Fingerpost is one of my favorites. You might want to look into “The Quincunx” by Charles Palliser; it reminds me of Dickens.
Just finished “In the Garden of Beasts”, a look at some of the Nazi bigwigs from the perspective of our ambassador to Germany in the 1930′s and his “lustful” daughter. I started “The Swerve” just a few days ago. Not what I expected, but well researched. It was the non-fiction National Book Award winner this year.
High praise for Shakira’s ass wins the day!
I really like your posts and I really like your taste, Tbogg – including Murakami.
It’s just too bad you limit yourself to “current” fiction. There’s a really good, very recent translation of Kafka’s “Amerika” that just came out. Check out
http://www.amazon.com/Amerika-Missing-Translation-Restored-Schocken/dp/0805211616/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322099062&sr=1-2
Kafka’s wrote three novel (fragments): this is his first, and in my opinion the best, by far. Much more humorous, if you can believe it (yes, Kafka had a great sense of humor, actually)! :) Lots of what he writes (thematically – Kafka didn’t care a wit about “accuracy”) about America still rings true today.
Just in case anyone is looking these things up — we’ve pretty much made a hash of Iain Pears’ name. I did it too. Just went back to look at which books I own and discovered the mistake.
Wow. Murakami – I’ve tried – 2 or 3 times on “The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle”. Despite the fact that I have myself searched for a missing cat a time or two, I just was bored silly…probably gave up after 10 or 15 pages.
Picked up 1Q84 at the store…read a few pages, but …just not that interested. Can’t remember a thing, and it was just a couple weeks ago.
OTOH, I read early Pynchon with pleasure, as they came out (I was very young)..V, Crying of Lot 49, one other maybe. Gravity’s Rainbow…even though I’m very interested in WWII, the Blitz, London, etc….have failed 3 or 4 times. It’s still on my shelf though.
The only person I know who’s read and loved “Infinite Jest” (at least in real life) is female…go figure.
Loved “The Name of the Rose,” failed at “Instance of the Fingerpost,” which I expected to love.
Have never read Coover; I remember reading a review of “Brunists” lo these many years ago, and “The Public Burning.” For some reason, just didn’t appeal.
I loved “Bleak House,” although I was a bit frightened and appalled by what it might mean for me…read it over Christmas break my 3rd year of law school…
I rarely read any current fiction; have almost never bought hardback fiction. These days I’m so poor I don’t even buy paperbacks.
I do have “A Visit From the Goon Squad” from the library…old enough to be off the holds list; just got it, so not very far into it.
In the midst of “Panther Soup,” by John Gimlette. Happened onto it at the library…a tour of one anti-tank batallion’s route through Italy, accompanied by an octogenarian vet. Right now we’re in Marseille. An odd take on the subject (the writer’s point of view) but interesting.
Ooh! bloggers “with a fetish for Shakira’s ass and basset hounds.”
Perfect.
And a commenter linked to the halal turkey post, too.
Damn, it’s gonna get crowded around here again if this keeps up.
“…they display, often very bravely and beautifully, the pull of the unreal and the fantastical on ordinary citizens who, unable to bear the world they have been given, desperately wish to go somewhere else. …In Unrealism, characters join cults. They believe in the apocalypse and Armageddon, or they go down various rabbit holes and arrive in what Murakami…calls Wonderland. They long for the end times. Magical thinking dominates.”
I’m sure there is a better description of Reich-wing authoritarian Tea Party conservatives – but that’s pretty darn good!
I just finished “Unbroken” by Laura Hillenbrand. Nonfiction. Went to bed with it and started reading. You know it’s a great book when you look up and see the sun coming up and you have to get up for work in 30-minutes!
TBogg, I say commit. I’m about a third of the way through, and I find it wonderful.