No, The Frothy One makes a lot of sense here — after all, God himself raped the Virgin Mary, told her to shut the fuck up about it, and behold! right in time for Christmas, all the happy cultists got themselves a little bundle of joy. Amen.

So, really, what callous, selfish woman wouldn’t want to carry her rapists’ seed to term, just on the off-chance that the guy with the bad breath and the box cutter wasn’t, you know, the Holy Spirit on his off-day and that the not-so-much-of-a-love child might grow up to be Beethoven?

Read this earlier. Grrrrr. Santorum better not come anywhere near me with that crap.

What gets me the most is where he “insist[s] it’s not a matter of religious values.”
Of course it is, goddammit! Does he really not understand that if he weren’t raised in the religion and specific beliefs thereof that he was, he at least mightsee the issue differently?

I’ve heard people say this before, and it’s where I always lose patience for logic and argument and just want to smack the person down to the ground.
Maybe I was wrong that Gingrich is the most evil person in this “race.” Santorum really might be the most blinded controlling anti-liberty (at least for those of us in the female side) politician around.
I do not get the feeling that he is open to changing his mind, no matter what.

If I start feeling a little sorry for his google problem, just remind me of this interview.

Lovely. As you see, I got a little too emotional to be able to snark. Seriously pissed off by this little self-righteous pissant.

I went to school with the daughter of Danny Kaye (not a perfect parent). Nice girl, if a bit uptight. I also went to school with the daughter of David Packard, who once offered her $100,000 to elope (wedding costs much more). Very defensive girl – turned out OK. But heaven help any of your children if they go to school with a Santorum kiddie. God help them all.

Well how the hell else are Repressed White Males, armed and diabetic, supposed to replicate themselves?

Rape is just Penile Libertarianism.

And hey, ladies, isn’t it a bonus if it’s incest? Because then the little bundle of love will be your daughter AND your sister!

Also too. We need to return the abortoriums to the back alleys where they belong.

And if you happen to miscarry, why, you’ve got yourself a very special souvenir that you can sleep with and keep in a jar.

I’m starting to think that the current Google-favored definition of “santorum” is much too kind to the candidate. Can we get Dan Savage to connect him to something even more vile?

If Sanctomoran ever got raped, all he’d have to endure is squealing like a pig and only that, er, Santorum afterwards.

No babies for him to poop out, so naturally, he doesn’t give a shit what happens to women who are raped & get pregnant therefrom. NOT his problem, yo.

Similarly, when life hands you anal rape, you make Santorum.

Luckily, this simpleton won’t end up in the White House, or my house, anytime in the near or distant future. His prattling resounds with the dogma-lovers, and none else. Rational folk understand that his Google persona is an accurate depiction of his real persona.

Yeah, but how many rational folk are there among voters?

I have to give the frothy mixture some credit: at least he’s taking a morally consistent issue on the abortion question, by consistently favoring the fetus over the woman. If abortion really is murder, as forced-birthers contend, why would being raped excuse it? In fact, given the way that child-killers are likely to be treated in prison and the number of people that are okay with that, wanting to abort the fetus just looks like proof that the woman deserved to get raped in the first place.

I agree with you on the moral consistency part… except it is important to remember that when Karen Santorum lost baby Gabriel it was through induced premature birth in order to save her life knowing full well that Gabriel would not survive. That, my friend, is a therapeutic abortion.

It’s okay if you’re a Santorum.

[rape is] “nevertheless a gift in a very broken way”

Rick Santorum deserves to experience the “broken gift” of a reality show modeled on Deliverance.

Note: He wouldn’t be playing the part of the toothless banjo pickers.

TBogg, that headline is glorious and belongs on Santorum campaign posters and billboards across America. There must be a way!

Oh and um, this bit is just jaw-droppingly galling.

And so to embrace her and to love her and to support her and get her through this very difficult time

Since Santorum, like all the other 1%-supporting candidates, would privatize medicare and diminish government services, how is this love and support to be delivered? Volunteers?

Republican policies demonize and diminish social and community services that provide professional support. Santorum emphasizes the trauma but would never support paying for social services. I guess the “blessed with broken gift” ladies are SOL then.

I take issue with your statement:

In fact, given the way that child-killers are likely to be treated in prison

This is woefully out of context and beside the point. Children are living human beings. They are not fetuses attached by an umbilical cord to their mothers.

I despise child killers and I am also very much pro-choice.

How can this man expect a woman to carry to term something that he himself calls “horribly created?” I can’t imagine anything worse after being raped. And if what I’ve read over the years is true, the woman would be mostly shunned because “she must have done something to cause this” and besides, she’s pregnant without a husband. Santorum is a very “sick” person.

Talk to any conservative about abortion, and they wax lyrical about how there are “many many” social services and/or charities out there to assist pregnant women who have financial or other emotional struggles with having a child.

Good luck, however, getting these same conservatives name JUST ONE of these so-called “services,” especially any that will, you know, truly help the woman and kid at least until the kid turns 18.

Might as well believe in Santa Claus, as believe that hocus-pocus.

Talk is cheap, very cheap.

Reminds me of the very old catholic joke:

IF MEN COULD GET PREGNANT, ABORTION WOULD BE A SACRAMENT!

Santorum—what a sanctimonious Uber-Catholic asshole!

To him the uterus should always be popping out babies like a Pez dispenser because, what are women after all, besides elaborately constructed EZ Bake Ovens for man batter.

Damn, first paragraph out the gate, and muthafuckah on a Gaia-damned TEAR..

Does Hallmark have any Give the Gift of Rape cards?

no worries, they’re home-schooled.

God help us all. What a douche.

Does Rick recommend thank-you notes, do you think?

What a sick creature, it’s amazing anyone let him anywhere near a position of authority of any kind.

What if life gives you Santorum? Who the hell would accept a dinner invitation from him if he serves Santorumade?

And hey, ladies, isn’t it a bonus if it’s incest? Because then the little bundle of love will be your daughter AND your sister!

File this one in the Christian Family Values drawer next to Newt’s serial adultery. (Notice how the evangelicals have no problem with that? Apparently cheating on your wife who has cancer is only bad if a Democrat does it.)

I don’t disagree with you personally; I was just arguing that it would be justifiable according to a true anti-abortion point of view.

The country is learning what Pennsylvania learned, finally, and why they voted him out by what, 20%?

“…but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you.”

How lovely. Ricky, what if it was your wife, or daughter? You’d make the best of a bad situation, really? Really?

Interesting how these assholes argue theoreticals when they think “it” only happens to other people.

…and as a bonus, ladies, you can relive that famous scene in Chinatown! Being fecund means being daddy’s girl in a very special way! You and sis can compare notes when it’s her turn! A lifetime of fun for the whole family!

And if you happen to miscarry, why, you’ve got yourself a very special souvenir that you can sleep with and keep in a jar.

Unless, of course, the Talibangelicals finally achieve their ultimate goal and make miscarriage a felony, along with birth control. Then you’ll get to rot in jail. Unless, of course, you’re married to a MOTU, in which case you “delivered” a “still born baby” “too early.”

The frothy one should be coated with honey and staked out over a fire ant nest in the blazing sun. I’d buy a ticket to watch that…

(This whole mess starts to sound more and more like “The Handmaid’s Tale…)

Do not feel sorry for Santorum because of his Google problem.

If I could speak with Mr. Santorum about the association of his last name with santorum I would say “I’ve always, you know, I believe and I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of linking your name to a disgusting substance — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of fame, and accept what God has given to you.”

Dear Rapist:

Thank you for the thoughtless gift. Unfortunately it was broken. Nevertheless I’m going lay my life on the line to preserve it and devote the next eighteen years of my life to its sustenance. To hell with my plans for graduate school and a meaningful relationship. My mission is to nurture to adulthood the result of your injecting sperm into me against my will, and you have not been identified by the law as the guilty party. Thank you so much for not killing me after you came. And how lucky was it that the EMTs took me to a Catholic hospital that refused to offer me any information about or access to the Morning-after pill?

If there’s one behavior we want to encourage, it’s the privileged attitude of those who think the government should not help bear the expenses of raising a child who was conceived outside of wedlock.

And yet the offspring of rape should SOMEHOW SOMEWAY be permitted enough resources to reach adulthood. When they can be ignored and excoriated for their shortcomings.

Oh yes, sign me up to watch a Youtube of that.

Breaking News in the “Santorum can’t help himself” dept.

You Can’t Make This Up: Rick Santorum Launches C.U.M.

Santorum is thinking of all those pregnant nuns who got ‘filled’ by all those horny priests, whom I suppose Rick has excuses for. But what if the precious gift is not from God at all, but from another power…a Rosemary’s Baby-type gift? I mean if Rick thinks God is personally involved with every ejaculation on the planet, then who’s to say the cloven-hoofed one isn’t in there either? Is Rick suggesting women keep Satan’s spawn?

Or perhaps women, after listening to a lecture from a person who will never have to carry around a fetus from a rape, never will get ‘blamed’ for probably causing the rape cause he was too attractive(!), or raise the child that reminds him of the rapist every day, perhaps women should just tell little Rickey to go fuck himself, and stay the hell out of our uteruses; that we will decide when we have children, thank you very much you smug, self-satisfied, pious piece of crap. I do hate that man so.

Each family member in that photo should have a thought bubble…

the daughter in front…”I am a Santorum…the horror…the horror.”

the boy…”When the detective asks ‘Show me on the doll where he touches you’, how do I answer?”

the older daughter…”Daddy says dreaming of a threesome with Madonna and Nancy Pelosi is wrong, but I cant help myself.”

the wife…”Did I remember to remove a frozen fetus from the fridge for tonights ceremony?”

The gop candidates all seem to represent their own brand of evil incarnate. A vote for any of them would just be a choice of which hand basket you want to ride to hell with this country and, likely the world, in.

The whole bunch looks like a family of psychotic serial killers from a “Criminal Minds” episode. Henceforth, the Santorums will now be referred to as “the Unsubs”

So, I guess using Ricky’s logic, if his wife or one of his messed-up kids were to off him, they should get a commendation medal for helping Ricky to go see Jeebus that much sooner.

Santorum/Bachmann 2012 – Because the Raped must Birth.

When is one of the Ellen Jamesians from “The World According to Garp”
going to cut this guys tongue out?

Dr. Job, paging Dr. Job.

There are a lot of horrible things that happen to people, like cancer and backing over your two year old by mistake and being blown up by an IED and dying of starvation, and if Rick Santorum wants to believe that God makes things turn out that way, he’s a few centuries late for the theodicy train.

Two points:

@tejanarusa: “…it’s not a matter of religious values.”
Of course it is, goddammit!

Technically, it’s probably not. Rather, it’s a matter of power. Living humans are the power source of societies — you cannot be a powerful king if you don’t have lots of lesser humans whose energy you can control and direct. So lots of landrace, vulnerable people are a necessity. This is harder to accomplish if birth control and early abortions are readily available. If these people get troublesome they can always be dealt with. But if they’re not even born, the would-be tyrant is out of luck (unless he can import them, which strategy brings with it another set of problems.)

Second point: I believe that in common law, a child born in wedlock is formally a child of the couple, regardless of the identity of the biological father. This remains the case even if the couple subsequently divorces. In addition, the biological father of a child is liable for child support regardless of how that child was engendered.

I assume then that under Santorum’s “God’s Law” if his wife was criminally impregnated, Santorum would be on the hook to raise and care for that man’s child, and could only get child support payments from the rapist if he was identified but not jailed. That’s a bit tricky, eh?

If the rapist was active enough before he was finally imprisoned, this could be a very successful genetic strategy. But it would result in a marked increase in the genes that predispose to successful rape behaviour, and a decrease in the Father Knows Best genes. I don’t know what those genes might actually be, but there mus be SOME difference between the two courtship styles.

We hear a lot about anchor babies — not so much about “cuckoo fathers.” Is Santorum ready to raise a criminal’s offspring as his own child? It would be interesting if someone had the balls to ask him, just before ending their career in journalism.

Noni

Just wrote about this today.

Isn’t he then promoting childbirth out of wedlock? Shouldn’t she have to marry the rapist, just as god intended? it takes a family, as his book says.

Romney/Santorum: Man on Dog on Car.

By the same token, if Little Ricky ever ends up doing time and ends up with an anal orifice the size of the Lincoln Tunnel through being made a fuckboy, he should grin and bear it because it’s all part of God’s Plan. Everything happens for a reason, right?

Quite frankly, I think most of you are missing the bigger picture in denouncing the Frothy Mixture’s plan.

No couple who have a healthy love and wish to grow together and bring children into this world would like to encourage those children to throw their lives away in a pointless war by politicians looking for votes and power.

On the other hand, an unwanted child born out of wedlock to a mother who was viciously attacked by some strange man is just perfect for tomorrow’s Eternal War on Terror.

You damned liberal hippies and your women’s rights are standing in the way of total perpetual war.

as a victim of a violent rape almost 20 years ago which haunts me to this day…i learned a few things about society….1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted sometime in their lifetime….mine was by a complete stranger that broke into my house int he middle of the night and attacked me in my sleep at knifepoint, strangled me and did his dirty deed as my son was forced to watch! This same pervert has raped previously an AVERAGE…I REPEAT AND AVERAGE of EIGHT TIMES BEFORE HE IS EVER CAUGHT!!!

on becoming pregnant…I was never checked for Pregnancy, aids, vd, herpes, warts, chlamydia, syphliss, or ANY OTHER little souveniers the rapist might have left behind. had to go in later when i realized that this was never done, go through the whole story again, requests all these tests and PAY for them, and also WAIT for the horrifying results.

My rapists was on a rampage…there were (this time) 4 other women involved. NOt sure how many of their children got to watch?

I was (after months) finally returned the items taken from my home as “evidence” which I thought were the baby gifts I had placed on display in my son’s windowsill which is where he broke in through and proceeded to cut my phone lines and wait until I got into his “preferred position for attack” which was on my stomach by the way. Anyway, after going through the DA, Victims of Crime Advocates, Police Dept., Parole Board, Lawyers and Finally my CONGRESSMAN. I opened up the packeage which i hoped would be the above mentined baby gifts. Gues what! It was all the “evidence they took that night…my sheets my panties, my nightgown, all marked up with big black magic markers, circles drawn around possible evidence, then holes cut out….AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST…THE BODY FLUID LABORATORY SLIDES!!! YES HIS SEMEN!!!

AND IF THAT WASN’T ENOUGH…I found out…accidentally..that he was already being routed for parole. Seems somewhere between the DA’s office and the judge’s office and the State Attorneys, he was convicted and senteneced to 10 years for the burgulary charge in addition to the 30 for the rape and 20 for the aggravated assault (in addition to strangling me he also used a knife her and there).

AND IF THAT WASN’T ENOUGH…I had to go back acouple of weeks after they initally collected 50 PUBIC HAIRS ONE BY ONE AT THE ROOT…OUCH!! AND GO THROUGH IT ALL AGAIN BECAUSE THEY LOST THE RAPE KIT!!! iE., EVIDENCE.

and if that wasn’t enough….MY SON HAD TO WATCH THE WHOLE RAPE.

and if that wasn’t enough…HE RAPED 4 OTHER WOMEN ON THIS PARTICULAR SPREE

and if that wasn’t enough..I was consoled by being told “AT LEAST HE WASN’T A BLACK GUY…”

My point being…Mr. Santorum nor anyone else in our society cares about what happens to women that are raped. THEY DO NOT PROTECT US, DEFEND US, REPRESENT US, ADVOCATE FOR US, PROSECUTE, PUNISH OR ANYTHING ELSE. iT’S A SOCIETAL THING.

i HAVE ALSO LEARNED that rape is not about sex,l it’s about control. Iwas raped by the whole “system” not just this one pervert. My son was also. I know this is a sickness , it is progressive and he will likely do it again if he has the chance..and he will. My prayer is that since he did it in front of a child, i hope he doesn’t do it TO A CHILD NEXT.

Mr. Santorum, the opinions of you and your partners in crime are part of the problem. Let me know when you become part of the solution. Until then, in my book you are just as much a rapist as the pervert who broke into my house in the middle of the night and caused me to among other things, never get a decent nights sleep for the rest of my life…

There is something about that picture above that reminds me of the Addams family. The son has dead eyes and the others, well…..

A vote for Santorum is a Vote for the Pope.
A vote for Gingrich/Santorum is a double Vote for the Pope.

As a fallen-away, I get to say that.

Of course, you also have a chance to vote for Moroni…..or for the Old Testament.

Could we just have someone who wants to work for the country??? Is that asking too much???

And I’m sorry for what happened to you.

At least Rick Santorum and his wife had access to pitocin to help rid themselves of a child that wasn’t truly viable.

Conservatives are sociopaths, incapable of abstract empathy and compassion. If something doesn’t affect them or someone very close to them, it’s easy to dismiss.

A gift? You sick fuck.

And, this is enlightening, a dear friend who is a True-Catholic, said that if her daughter were raped and impregnated, the daughter would have to have the child and then they’d give it up for adoption. I pointed out that that child would be her grandchild. She didn’t care. No daughter of hers should be forced to raise a rapist’s child. It’s all so relative, dontcha know.

Insisting that “it’s not a matter of religious values,” Santorum explained that sexual assault victims should “accept this horribly created” pregnancy because it is “nevertheless a gift in a very broken way” and that, when it comes down to it, a victim just has “to make the best out of a bad situation“:

Rick really does not want to be VP I take it or ever be elected again to office. Rick is also making sure that the Fundies now defined by Rick as crazy sure they were always crazy but now they are openly crazy to the majority of Americans scare the crap out of Moderate voters who don’t pay attention to politics except in an election year.
Now any GOPer claims to be prolife voters will link prolife to what Rick said because Rick just said the most scary but interesting thing about the crazy prolife position any high level GOPer running for President has ever said.
Humans remember things that are interesting shocking more than they remember other stuff. Humans remember important things like what a man who might be President says more than they remember what their Lefty friend said Rush said.
They will remember this. Rick’s statement has now tainted the prolife position for the GOP all we need ask is a GOPer is are they in favor of Women being forced to give birth to their rapists babies.

Did not Bush 1 ask Dukakis what he would do if his wife was raped? We know what Rick would do but all the other GOPers are prolife we should ask them too.

How can the repugs insist on the woman having an unwanted baby and then cutting funding for taking care of that baby?
Can someone explain the disconnect to me?

What it his morally consistent stand on war or capital punishment? I’ll give you one guess.

“I can’t think of anything more horrible”….I can, maybe. Parents forcing their young children to cuddle a dead fetus during a family road trip to grandma’s.

Yea, let’s run him through a couple of prisons and let the brothus turn him out a few times and see how understanding he is with his sore asshole after he is gang raped by a bunch of animals whos worst crime was sellin a little crack to the crackheads on the street!
Mama Punk! Bless them Lord for they jes wanted to “create” somefin!

The “brothus”? Little inadvertent racism for breakfast for you this morning? Why don’t you and and Rick get together and SHARE your fantasies, see what you can cook up?

“…a True-Catholic, said that if her daughter were raped and impregnated, the daughter would have to have the child and then they’d give it up for adoption. . . . No daughter of hers should be forced to raise a rapist’s child.”

Though I suppose that being forced to give birth to a rapist’s child will teach her daughter not to run around in those short skirts…. What is it with these people?