
Peter Gleick, President of the Pacific Institute, has admitted to being behind the acquisition of the Heartland Institute’s internal documents describing their methods for lying like a motherfucker to the public about climate change at the behest of the rich people who fund their little wingnut welfare scam. The New York Times Andrew Revkin is in need of a strong dose of laudanum and a fainting couch because it is totally not fair to expose lying liars who lie:
Peter H. Gleick, a water and climate analyst who has been studying aspects of global warming for more than two decades, in recent years became an aggressive critic of organizations and individuals casting doubt on the seriousness of greenhouse-driven climate change. He used blogs, congressional testimony, group letters and other means to make his case.
Now, Gleick has admitted to an act that leaves his reputation in ruins and threatens to undercut the cause he spent so much time pursuing. His summary, just published on his blog at Huffington Post, speaks for itself. You can read his short statement below with a couple of thoughts from me:
Okay, Andy, clutch your pearls and get it off your chest:
One way or the other, Gleick’s use of deception in pursuit of his cause after years of calling out climate deception has destroyed his credibility and harmed others. (Some of the released documents contain information about Heartland employees that has no bearing on the climate fight.) That is his personal tragedy and shame (and I’m sure devastating for his colleagues, friends and family).
The broader tragedy is that his decision to go to such extremes in his fight with Heartland has greatly set back any prospects of the country having the “rational public debate” that he wrote — correctly — is so desperately needed.
Oh blow it out your emo-ass, Revkin.
You can’t have a”rational public debate” with people whose whole reason for existence is to obfuscate the truth by paying big bucks to scientist/whores for whom ‘scientific inquiry’ means first posing the question “How much does it pay?” to be followed (after a brief period of haggling) with “What do you want it to say?”. From there corporate fronts like the Cato Institute, the Hoover Institute, the Heritage Foundation take the scientific 3-card monte game that has been handed to them and they round the edges, smooth out the rough spots, couch the language and cherry-pick the most easily digestible nuggets of bullshit which they dole out on 3×5 cards to Fox News, English tabloids, and an assortment of conservative bloggers and lesser whores who are paid to appear objective and thoughtful. What completes this Puke Funnel Circle Of Life is for national writers (like, for example: Andrew Revkin) to write very concerned why-can’t-we-all-get-along columns bemoaning the fact that, even though we know the world is round, there are those who believe otherwise and, in all fairness and with all due respect, their voices must be not only heard but given equal weight.
The fact is that the Heartland Institute was busted because some genius fumbledick in their offices e-mailed out their super-secret recipe for turning bullshit into sausage. As a side order, we even learned about their devastating loss of one valuable distribution point (emphasis added):
“Efforts at places such as Forbes are especially important now that they have begun to allow high-profile climate scientists (such as Gleick) to post warmist science essays that counter our own. This influential audience has usually been reliably anti-climate and it is important to keep opposing voices out. “
But not to worry, the Heartland Institute’s got a new kid and a new venue in line to pick up the slack (emphasis added):
Efforts might also include cultivating more neutral voices with big audiences (such as Revkin at DotEarth/NYTimes, who has a well-known antipathy for some of the more extreme AGW communicators such as Romm, Trenberth, and Hansen) or Curry (who has become popular with our supporters).
And Andrew Revkin packed and delivered like UPS trucks as was foretold in the Book of Bullshit…




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Shitmonger wingnut welfare lackeys like Heartland thrive on the bullshit objectivity of the mainstream media and people like Revkin.
If Gleick decided that the shitmongers needed a taste of their own product — because we can make a good guess at who commissioned the hacker that grabbed those emails — then good for him.
Shorter Revkin: Concern troll is concerned.
Of course, ‘climategate’ would not have existed except for the fact that the global warming deniers hacked the climate institute’s email server and stole thousands of personal emails from scientists to comb through and selectively post out of context quotes which indicated that scientists were indeed human.
The use of deception to get suspects to reveal what they know is a technique often used by investigators, and the police do it all of the time. It may be on the edge of unethical, but it’s in no way illegal, unlike hacking into a computer network, which is clearly criminal.
The only thing more annoying than mendacious jack-asses whining about “not getting any respect” is Andrew Revkin
You are right, cops lie all the time and convictions are upheld. So what is Gleick appoligizing about. If it isthe only way to get that information out there, then do it.
OK, I read what Glieck did. He used an assumed name to acquire the Heartland Institute newsletter. Big whoop. By that standard, I’m history’s worst monster, since I don’t use my real name to subscribe to lots of internet mailing list.
Oh look, mail for Heywood Jablomie.
He shouldn’t have apologized. He’s trying to be hyper ethical, but he’s simply providing ammunition for the pearl clutchers.
So the Sharks and Jets are having a rumble in the playground and the Sharks are using motorcycle chains and knives on the unarmed Jets but one of the Jets has the temerity to throw a handful of sand into the face of one of the Sharks and Mr. Revkin calls “Foul play, sir, foul play!”?
I despair, I really do despair…
I fail to see anything unethical here. Glieck got the same materials that Heartland, presumably, supplies to anyone who subscribes to their mailing list, not company secrets pilfered from the file room.
If Heartland can be so easily embarrassed by materials they’ll supply to anyone for the asking…well, there’s your problem. Glieck could have had a friend subscribe and supply the materials to him and it would have been no more or less ethical.
When we’ve reached a point where the media sagely agrees that it’s unfair to point out the admitted lies of liars, published for public consumption, then there’s no longer any need for a media.
*Full disclosure: Years ago, I sent $5 to our state “Christians Messing in Goverment” organization, just so I could get on their mailing list and be kept up-to-date on their latest nefarious goals and plans. Since no one asked me to pinky-swear that I really, really was in agreement with their agenda, I’m not apologizing.
Revkin has been a tool on this issue. A few weeks ago he had a special “Can’t we all just get along?” piece, where readers on each side of the “climate debate” had to come up with nice things to say about the other side. I mean for God’s sake.
Nice catch, Mr. B.
Well, this is just terrific. It seems Heartland will now be teaching my kids about the “major controversy” surrounding human created climate change (via Charlie Pierce):
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/heartland_k-12_curriculum.jpg
Whores like Revkin don’t just legitimize falsehoods perpetrated by corporations with financial interests “questioning” the science, taxpayers end up paying the bill when school boards adopt this curriculum under the false pretense that it is actual scientific inquiry.
Efforts might also include cultivating more neutral voices with big audiences (such as Revkin at DotEarth/NYTimes…
Reminds me of the scene from The Untouchables when Elliott Ness shows the judge the list of payoff amounts to buy the jury. The judge only acts when Ness suggests he has another list with the judge’s name on it. I’m guessing that Lil’ Andrew made the opposite choice and is hoping no one notices.
Unfortunately, the right has been refining their techniques for spreading lies and false doubt about science for at least 30 years with the Creationism hoax. They’ve just transferred the lessons to a new area of inquiry and are taking advantage of scientists and other people who are used to dealing with colleagues who are honest and act in good faith.
Holy shit. I give you the next President of the United States of America!
“[Santorum] went on to call climate change “an absolute travesty of scientific research that was motivated by those who, in my opinion, saw this as an opportunity to create a panic and a crisis for government to be able to step in and even more greatly control your life.”
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/santorum-goes-biblical-with-climate-change-denial.php?ref=fpa
I suppose it’s too much to expect the NYT to provide editorial oversight over asshats like Revkin while they fellate their newfound friends in the flat earth society? It would spare the rest of us an endless and pointless continuation of this faux “debate” over global warming, not to mention that Revkin’s “contributions” on the matter are a bit like column inches wasted on glowing reviews of Nero’s fiddling talents while Rome burns…
Thomas Frank on book salon on Sunday answered my assertion that the 1%ers didn’t believe a word they themselves utter by saying, oh yes they do. The subject was economics, not climate change, but same diff. I had to leave book salon after such a moronic claim for fear of insulting the ‘guest.’
And so we get one step closer to the Times running this headline: “Shape of Earth? Opinions Differ.”
Gleick as Whistleblower
http://www.desmogblog.com/whistleblower-authenticates-heartland-documents
The New York Times Andrew Revkin is in need of a strong dose of laudanum and a fainting couch because it is totally not fair to expose lying liars who lie:
Isn’t that what journalism used to be?
Wasn’t the Times once a liberal paper?
I thought the Times did just that with the Pentagon Papers the wiki leaks of the time?
This attitude does explain the Times drop in circulation.
The New York Times comics section keeps getting bigger and bigger.
I think some of them are drinking their own cool aid after all many of them invested their own money in the banks, housing market and hedge funds which bought home loans from the banks in exchange for loans to buy companies.
I wonder how much home loan debt Bain Capital had on its books right before the bank bailout? Mitt, the GOP and O all seem to want a bailout for the rich paid for with my SS and Medicare:(
They don’t seem to realize that the rich came to government for a bailout not the other way around. They don’t seem to realize they created no jobs under Bush/Obama despite low taxes for a decade.
They don’t seem to realize they are Reagan’s caddy driving welfare queens.
Sadly, our media overlords who worship at the altar of perceived “balance” in all their so-called reporting have decided that if anyone outside their inner circle ever discloses uncomfortable truths (see also Michael Hastings, Wikileaks, etc.), should there be the slightest possibility that the evidence was obtained by anything other than “open means”, that evidence itself is to be discredited and maligned.
Under this logic, of course, one of the high points of journalism in the last century, the publication of the Pentagon Papers, would have quickly been brushed off the front pages in favor of a media-led examination of Daniel Ellsberg’s “criminal behavior” and his mental state. While those definitely came into play at the time, they were not the primary focus, as they almost certainly would be today.
The thing they really don’t realize is that it’s not about the 1%ers, it’s about the 0.01%ers. So people like Pinch Sulzberg will end up getting shit upon by his masters, no matter how much he caves into them.
Yup, whenever I want to learn something about science, I go to
Frothy EinsteinRick Santorum.Yes, very interesting. It seems he likes to err on the wrong side.
In order to get what we need. The kind of life and society that is now necessary. We must first kill Capitalism.
By that I mean we must kill personal profit and competition as the primary motivation for our endeavors. Both hinder the innovation, progress and growth needed to bring about the technologies needed for a sustainable future.
The New York Times Andrew Revkin is in need of a strong dose of laudanum and a fainting couch because it is totally not fair to expose lying liars who lie:
Efforts might also include cultivating more neutral voices with big audiences (such as Revkin at DotEarth/NYTimes, who has a well-known antipathy for some of the more extreme AGW communicators such as Romm, Trenberth, and Hansen) or Curry (who has become popular with our supporters).
Andrew Revkin is defending his future and quite possible past Heartland Institute cash a journalist taking the same side of an institute that not only was caught lying but also feeding journalists lies like the WH did Judy Miller sounds like the kind of thing even Andrew has to worry about if he wants to keep his job.
If this story gets more popular traction that is I hope FDL does follow up stories and looks for links between Andrew and other journalists taking Heartland Institute cash.
Baffle em with BS!! The GOP default position when nothing else works.
Projection is a bitch.
True Carlos Slim loaned the Times some cash he very well might lose his paper if he needs to borrow more cash.
Look at Forbes Malcom and family had to sell the island, the yacht, the faberage eggs, the Victorian art collection because ad revenue and readers have dried up after the housing bubble they and the Times cheerleaded.
I still remember a few months before the housing crisis happened Bobo at the Times writing about how Bush was not getting any credit for the great economy. Ben Stein at the Times business page was saying the same thing.
Here’s another scientist the PTB will have to get rid of.
Not sure your meaning.
Capitalism is dead/dying, comrade. To add to the impetus for killing personal profit and competition for aggrandizement, I would add to the indictments the shock doctrine, the deliberate creation of crisis for profit, the misinformation for extended extraction of profit, the unaccountability, the exacerbation of ingratitude, and the insane craving for immortality.
“[Santorum] went on to call climate change “an absolute travesty of scientific research
Grass is still green in Chicago we had snow it melted, birds did not go south this year, kids fell through the ice in Northern Illinois if February when I was a kid we played hockey every day of Christmas break we never worried about thin ice in february unless it was by moving water like a river.
If we have another year of texas drought like last year climate change will bite rick in the ass.
The welfare kings blame welfare queens, hiding their own metastasizing immorality.
Ha, I left this comment at Dot Earth which was removed in 1..2..3..
Shame? Reputation in tatters? HOGWASH the man has now achieved the stature of Daniel Ellsberg.
Sometimes, there is an evil so monstrous that a piddly deception to obtain information about it is a virtuous and noble act. There can be no greater evil than promulgating the vicious lie that climate change is not an existential threat to most species on earth including ours, emanating from the combustion of fuel.
Andy I don’t normally comment on this vain enterprise, the dot earth climate science ghetto of the disgraced NYTimes (the one who lied about weapons of mass destruction, remember?).
But your analysis of Peter Gleick’s courageous act is too egregious to allow it to pass unchallenged.
SHAME ON YOU, AGAIN.
Love it. And as has been observed, immortality consists largely of boredom.
Gottcha:)
I still can’t believe Frothy is leading ANYBODY in the GOP primaries. This guy was polling just ahead if Huntsman for 6 months. The more I hear him the more I am conviced he is a total loon.
I think there will be a surge of republicans who belong to the “not-Romney but definately not this moron” club. Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich and now Lil’ Ricky????? OMG, I’ve never seen such a stable of LOSERS in my lifetime.
This crap all flows from the ideas of dead economists: Truth is a market good and if it’s utility is best concentrated, so be it.
I don’t get serious often. But, with everybody lying to us, the media, the government, the so-called independent experts, we got a REAL BIG problem. Even when you do your homework, hear both sides, stay up late AND watch PBS, you still can’t tell the liars from the damn liars and discern the truth.
When truth is obfuscated and (as my colleagues so aptly put it) the “rule of law” has been destroyed, there is no doubt what path we are on. THAT seems to be the one fact we can all agree on.
It’s the fall of the Roman empire again. Rampant promuscuity, drunken orgies…………..I’m sorry, I forgot what my point was…..
Yeah. Funny how Revkin isn’t as concerned about serious hacking as he is about social engineering.
Good point. The way this has played out so far:
Whistleblower: Here are documents showing how the evil dirty-energy-industry-funded pricks at Heartland are funding lies and smears directed against climate scientists and intended to poison public opinion.
Heartland and Its Stooges: At least one of the documents is bogus! But we won’t tell you how we know that!
Whistleblower: You’re lying, and here’s how I know: I infiltrated your group to get copies of these documents, all of which are created by your group.
Heartland and Its Stooges: EEEEK! Dirty pool! Why didn’t you play nice and hack our servers like our stooges did to that British university?!
“So people like Pinch Sulzberg will end up getting shit upon by his masters”
It’s what he lives for. Trickle down.
Wouldn’t that be more of an ooze ?
If I was you and you were me, I suspect your point would be:
“Promiscuity?! Orgies?! Why the heck am I not getting an invitation? Or at least a location..”
Oh, and “warmist” – damn, the more these guys speak and write, the more I believe that Satan is real.
So apparently there are differences between the fake doc and the others. Not least of which is that it’s a hardcopy scan.
So not only did this guy misrepresent himself, he also apparently faked the damning document. How convenient. This is just another example why Conservatives will never believe Warmists. They can’t be trusted. Santorum got it right.
Give it up, shooter! Nobody’s buying your bullshit.
Why not reinstate slavery and servitude, to corporate energy interests? Oh never mind we are already there. BTW great tanning weather in New England, in February? Next three days 50-60 degrees? Smoking does not cause cancer?
“Yes, they handed him the information, but he cheated when he asked for it, by saying Please. That’s a magic word!”
“Santorum got it right.”
Santorum is a fucking moron.
Oh shooter, shouldn’t you be somewhere else writing Virginia abortion rape fanfic?
“…the deliberate creation of crisis for profit,…”
Gleiwitz Incident?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
“The Gleiwitz incident was a staged attack by Nazi forces posing as Poles on 31 August 1939, against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe.”
Gulf of Tonkin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
“The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or the USS Maddox Incident, are the names given to two separate confrontations, one actual and one now recognized as non-existent, involving North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron.[1] A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, and four North Vietnamese sailors were killed and six were wounded; there were no U.S. casualties.[5]
The second Tonkin Gulf incident was originally claimed by the U.S. National Security Agency to have occurred on August 4, 1964, as another sea battle, but instead may have involved “Tonkin Ghosts”[6] (false radar images) and not actual NVN torpedo boat attacks.
The outcome of these two incidents was the passage by Congress of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which granted President Lyndon B. Johnson the authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by “communist aggression”. The resolution served as Johnson’s legal justification for deploying U.S. conventional forces and the commencement of open warfare against North Vietnam.”
Yellow Cake?
Niger uranium forgeries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries
“According to The Washington Post, when occupying troops found no evidence of a current nuclear program, the statement and how it came to be in the speech became a focus for critics in Washington and foreign capitals to press the case that the White House manipulated facts to take the United States to war. The Post reported, “Dozens of interviews with current and former intelligence officials and policymakers in the United States, Britain, France and Italy show that the Bush administration disregarded key information available at the time showing that the Iraq-Niger claim was highly questionable.” [6] With the release of the 2002 NIE report, the Bush administration was criticized for including the statement in the State of the Union despite CIA and State Department reports questioning its veracity.”
All three, predicated on lies motivated by profit/greed/power.”
“War is a racket!”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
Ludwig, you are correct!
At the gas pump, oil futures traders are at it again, and many of the oil futures traders are heavily invested, too, in funding AGW deniers.
These two issues are connected, both driven by multi-millionaire and multi-billionaire owners and investors trying to rake in as much profit for themselves as possible (in the short term), manipulating the oil markets now to their financial advantage while taking some of their profits and pumping them into the pockets of AGW deniers, essentially a win-win for them, while everyone else in the world loses their money at the pump now and later probably their lives as the severity of atmospheric global warming hits and escalates beyond control.
I saw a segment on Cenk Uygur’s “The Young Turks” Current TV program last week tracing how much money per gallon goes to the oil futures traders, with “too big to fail” oil futures traders at Goldman Sachs, Koch Industries, Bank of America, to name a few, taking huge chunks out of your pocket at the pump each and every time you fill your gas tank.
To give an example of how this price manipulation worked in the past, studies after the gasoline price hike of 2008 to over $4.00 a gallon indicated that approximately 40 percent of every gallon pumped went to the oil futures speculators, meaning that of an average $4.00 per gallon cost, $1.60 of the gallon pumped went to traders speculating on the oil futures market, with these speculators buying up oil stocks figuring that oil barrel (and gasoline prices) would rise, thus turning them a hefty profit. Of course, as we saw in the ENRON manipulation of west coast on-line energy markets, the actual manipulation is what hits consumers with increased energy charges, NOT supply and demand.
Former (and still not in jail) President George W. Bush packed the Commodities Futures Trading Commission with revolving-door oil futures speculators, who did nothing to regulate the oil futures market, leaving the door open for all the schemers and scammers to drive up oil barrel (and gasoline prices) throughout his presidency (I remember how much gasoline cost when Bush and Cheney entered the White House, 25 percent of today’s price, about $1.00 a gasoline), with this constant consumer-raping speculation reaching a peak in 2008, right before the Republican-caused housing bubble burst and the “too big to fail” Wall Street manipulators almost crashed. (Note: the oil barrel and gasoline price plummeted dramatically in 2008 after all the speculators crashed and burned, but after getting bailed-out, they’re baaack!!!
So, what’s happening now? Revolving door oil speculators still control the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, unwilling to put the brakes on these consumer-raping oil futures speculators. Thus, somewhere in the range of $.20 per gallon goes to Goldman Sachs oil futures speculators, another $.20 per gallon goes to Bank of America speculators, another $.20 per gallon goes into the pockets of the Koch brothers, because Koch Industries also speculates on oil futures, and so on. And then all those involved in raping consumers at the gas pump turn around and pump donations into the pockets of institutions and individuals being paid to claim (falsely) 1) that atmospheric global warming isn’t really happening, all the scientific evidence to the contrary and 2) that humans aren’t causing it through the burning of fossil fuels, all the scientific evidence to the contrary.
And on all of these comments(excepting those of a troll), let me just re-state the fucking obvious: Al Gore is FAT. The end.
How dare somebody use deception to expose massive, deliberate, well-funded mendacity.
Someone check the Times archives to see if Andrew Revkin had such a bosom-heaving reaction to the neocon lies about WMDs in Iraq that cost this country a trillion dollars and thousands of lives. Or if his outrage only extends to things that might hurt corporate profits. My money is on a Bush-like “(shrug) I jus’ believed the intelligence reports, not my fault.”
Kinda like when, around the lead-up to the Scooter Libby trial, there emerged a memo from somewhere in Rove’s WH operations stating that Robert Novak was their most reliable guy for planting lies in the press.
Perhaps pooter might enlighten us on when Heartland et al. decided that “warmist” was the newly-preferred term for denialist shills to use? Did Frank Luntz focus-group that one?
(He won’t, of course, because he’s a minimum wage paid troll who pretends that he runs his own business and pulls in six figures a year.)
Also, Reichstag fire.
Also, Hank Paulson prowling the halls of Congress with a three-page draft bill that would authorize billions if not trillions to be given to the Wall Street banksters yesterday, to keep GS and AIG from the fate of Lehman Brothers. (Oh, how I wish Golden Sacks had gone down the tubes.)
Also, pretty much everything that Naomi Klein describes in Shock Doctrine.
The common thread? Right wing and anti-democratic forces at work.
Here is a somewhat cool (and topic related) image I saw. . . .
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zbqeV7ElxbI/TzxYYP3xHsI/AAAAAAAAA_4/l9o58CC-4Oo/s667/More+Likely.jpg