Bastolio: ARE YOU THREATENING ME? I need paper money for my bung hole! SILENCE! My people, we have no BUNG hole…

Col. Wamsley responded by saying it occurred to him that they might need his home address for the legal action, which he provided, and that he was posting the emails on his website to make sure they remained accessible.
That is at least five kinds of awesome.

You gotta love it when people who dislike big government and wasteful spending automatically turn to that big government to have that big government wastefully spend money investigating the fact that someone doesn’t like them.

God forbid he ever goes to a foreign country. He’d be calling the CIA every time he thinks a foreigner might be uttering an insult in their native tongue and sending the voice recordings off to forensics for analysis!

“You are a traitor to your country.”

legal council? FBI? Forensics team? For that?

Oopsie, l’il Joey is off his meds again.

I think Col. Wamsley is awesome, and I love his defiance of the Heartland motherfuckers, but I’m afraid somebody may have to tlak to him about this:

Your response to me would been better served by referencing articles like Megan Mcardle’s well written piece in the Atlantic…

Um, clearly Col. Wamsley is not aware of all internet traditions, or else the words “Mcardle” and “well written” would never appear anywhere near each other.

And now that the “forged memo” has been shown to be an actual work product memo of The Heartland Institute, what now, Bast?

Someone really needs to push Heartland into suing them. The discovery phase should be interesting.

The Heartland Institute’s address is:

One South Wacker Drive #2740
Chicago, IL 60606

You can’t make this stuff up. Well, actually, you can. But you don’t have to.

Colonel Bast is worried about someone leaking the 11 secret herbs and spices.

“It is important that you not delete the email from your sent file, or any other emails you may have exchanged with other people while preparing it, since this could be evidence in criminal and civil cases.”

One wonders how many documents have been destroyed at Heartland in anticipation of an investigation.

“Wacker Drive?!”

I’m laughing so hard people in my office are looking at me funny.

Perhaps Bast should challenge Wamsley to a duel?

If Joseph Bast is a big pussy, I’m sure he won’t mind being wanded.

“forensics team” = some Heartland junior “analyst” whose cubicle is plastered with pictures of Marg Helgenberger.

Mister Wamsley? MISTER Wamsley?

OK, he’s retired, but I’d still grant him the respect of his rank. That’s COL. Wamsley to you, Sparky.

The kerning on Wamsley’s email does look suspicious.

Exactly what I was about to say. And how much do you want to bet that Bast is one of those “dirty hippies spit on veterans” and “why does the military get no respect” kinda fellas?

I’ll also bet that he refers to Newticles as “Mr. Speaker” and Santorum as “Senator”.

Douchebag.

I heard that the crack “forensic team” is checking that email for prints and DNA as we speak.

Indeed. Send those emails off to ballistics, Stat!

“One South Wacker Drive”

Where, I suppose, Mr Bast spends time alone with The Lord.

I smell suspicious kerning! Fire up the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth! Investigate this “Colonel” Wamsley’s military record! Call up the Red State Strike Force! Alert Erick Son of Erick! Blaaaaaargh!

Calm down and have a bag of salted dicks.

If Colonel Wamsley needs any financial help for any legal action, I’ll be glad to help.

Call up the Red State STrike Force!

There. Fixorated that for ya.

So maybe that college smart paper ain’t worth all what y’all think it’s cracked up to be. Mr. Bast

“studied economics as an undergraduate” at the University of Chicago[2] but did not complete the degree.[3]

according to the linky so graciously provided by the proprietor of this blog. If only I had known that I could pull down $96,292 in 2007, and $80,797 in 2005, while being married to the think tank’s Vice President of Internal Affairs, who pulled down $76,337 in 2007. Holy moley, but that wingnut welfare pays nicely…

“Threatening”? Did you edit out that part of the letter or did they change the meaning of the word “threatening”?

Could we call these guys welfare KINGS instead of welfare queens? And could we call them pricks instead of pussys?

Just asking on an allegedly femiblog. Not that I’ve ever noticed any evidence that it is.

“I assume your intemperate comments are based on a forged memo that misrepresents our efforts in the area of global warming research education, so let me explain before demanding an apology.”

Nope! It’s based on your little stink tanks entire body of work. Millions of Koch bucks burned at the alter of fake controversy, pseudo-science and intellectual dogshit.

Damn good point. Seconded.

I suspect that “crack forensics team” is the wife’s younger brother (who learned said skillz while playing the Warcrafts on the internets).

Some of my most obvious comments go unremarked. Wonder why that could be. NOT.

Please write back to let me know if you will comply with my requests.

I hope the response to that was “Fuck off, dipshit” or something in that vein. This guy sure does have a high opinion of himself and a low opinion of everybody else.

Hey! Don’t insult Wacker Drive!

Gary Wamsley, Real Man.

That is all.

I’ve made the same remarks in the past, with the same response.

At least you got Margaret.

Colonel Wamsley’s response was to provide Bast with his home address, and then publish the entire e-mail exchange on his website.

I already have a dad, otherwise I’d ask him to adopt me.

The invisible woman syndrome.

My son, now 30, thought I was nuts too. So, we’re at a local midtown Manhattan eatery for dinner. He was about 18, I was ‘mature.’ I call for the bill. Time passes. Nothing happens. He calls for the bill which, drum roll, miraculously appears. He sez: Now I see what you mean.

Not that it made any diff to his wingnut life.

It’s all at the link:

http://www.berthoudrecorder.com/2012/02/19/heartland-institute-threatens-71-year-old-veteran/

Well, T. does invite Mr. Bast to consume a bag of salted male genitalia, for what it’s worth.

Um, no, not worth a bag of salted whatever.

It’s all in the framing, which is all in the headline.

This would be a great time for using a letter from composer Max Reger to a critic:
“I am sitting in the smallest room of my house. Your review is in front of me. Soon, it will be behind me.”

Nah! That would be plagiarism.

I’d forgotten that one.

Apparently the Heartless Institute has very close ties to the Kochs. What a surprise.

Things go better with….

I grew up the youngest kid and only girl in a household of wingnuts (back when “wingnut” meant either “nut with metal doodads protruding therefrom” or “Air Force member”), jarheads, and squids. The day I need a fainting couch for anything TBogg says (especially considering his posts here, here, and here, and that’s just from the past week) is the day I crawl into the coffin.

He is a piece of work, ain’t he!

Yikes! I ADORE this guy!
EDIT: And I think I still would have added “Fuck off, dipshit”.

Ken at DWT can almost hit parity with T Bogg. Almost!!

It’s all at the link:

T’was sarcasm ma’am. :)

TBogg: I love your writing style and your word choice. A person after my own crusty and irascible heart. It’s time people call Bullshit whenever they see and hear it and put assholes on the spot.

The Col. might suggest they check Arkell v. Pressdram. (1971) for his full reply.

Wingnut welfare ‘kings’ doesn’t make any sense. Queen has a well known history. As for the pussy, well, anyone who goes running for the FBI when hit with a stiff breeze should be pussy in anybody’s book.

That’s what they call it?

A wand?

I guess any nick name will do.

;-)

I’m a guy.

I’ve NOTICED your thot in the manner as expressed, but I’ve also witnessed a lot of pro women’s pov’s from main pagers Dayen, Walker, Hamsher. Other’s, for sure . . . we can’t quibble that.

MyFDL is a different beast, to be held accountable individually, not as an FDL main pager.

So.

eCahn, n Margaret . . . I think there’s been a lot of coverage PRO women’s pov, would you deny that?

N if so or not, how would you further your comments/thot’s about FDL NOT being pro women’s pov?

Honestly asked . . . don’t hurt me!!! lol

I like the basic story of Col. Wamsley’s efforts, despite the criticism of his other ‘defects’ . . . as to his target?

May HE rot in hell and pass to dust sooner n later, along with the rest of them.

Till then, I trash them every chance I get in my life.

In pure NewYawhkese, “Fuck you you fucking fucks.”

I honestly believe that too much editing in life dilutes the intention and intended messaging we all do.

;-)

LMAO!!

Give ‘em hayall, PW, give ‘em hayall . . .*G*

Damn it all you all have me laughing to hard to drive to work. Dog i love this site.

Yes, the very fine Chicago Hyatt is on Wacker Drive.

Jesus Fucking Christ. TBogg did exceptional and frequent posting on the whole Susan G. Komen fiasco. He has consistently been on the right side of women’s issues, and has blasted the patriarchical assholes in the Republican Party who have been trying their damnedest to turn back the clock on full equality for women since time immemorial. But he deserves to get slagged for calling someone a “pussy”? Get the fuck over yourselves, already. Assholes.

the simple fact is that this author is using the word ‘pussy’ specifically to frame this man’s aggressive threats as cowardice. He is not just using it as a random insult – he is using it specifically because of its negative connotation. It’s the same as saying ‘that fucker jewed me’ for someone on the wrong end of a negotiation. Its use _specfically_ reinforces the negative stereotype, and it’s hilariously fucked up that people can fail to see that and say that just because somebody is in favor of abortion rights that they ought not to be criticized. The people saying ‘don’t complain, look how good you have it’ are fucking rude and disrespectful, and it turns disgusting when the verbal offense isn’t just a casual way of speaking but a specific use of reinforcing the stereotype.

I agree. Very frustrating that people aren’t getting that using it to specifically imply that female anatomy -> cowardice is not-good. This isn’t even a Louis CK ‘quit being a faggot and suck that dick’ situation here.

It must be torture to live in your world. Slings, arrows, affronts, slights, parsing every word in search of offense, then comes sadness, confusion, distress, no hope, darkness, cold…so very very cold.

Then comes the late night trip to Taco Bell….

Why yes, mockery, condescension and out-of-nowhere projection of what my life is like in response to me criticizing you is _much_ more mature and responsible than threatening to call the FBI.

Why don’t you just call _me_ a pussy for complaining? It would be a lot more to the point than what you’re doing now.

Whenever TBogg makes the front page, at least we get to see the main contenders for this year’s Purity Playoffs, to be decided by best-of-seven hissyfits of taking offence.

Only pussies complain about people calling people ‘a pussy’.

Is there a class of people who are ‘pussies’ and need to be protected because they are being discriminated against?

Can we call people ‘a heel’ and it not offend you? How about an asshole? Maybe a dick?

What a pussy. ;-)

It’s all fun and games until the rulers come out.

Only pussies complain about people calling people ‘a pussy’.

And women. Women complain about that. The suggestion upthread that work on a particular femmy topic like Komen means everyone excuses subsequent douchetasm is just silly. It’s got that icky “I was just kidding” smell.

See, there you go again. Filthy, yet provocative.

Oh I have no problem with insults. I don’t think that calling you a disgusting little shit is a problem. This isn’t a Louis CK ‘quit being a f***** and suck that dick’ situation, which I personally would have less of a problem with.

What a disgusting little shit you are. ;-)

You are a traitor to your own country. I did not spend 30 years in the military to protect the likes of you.

Gary Wamsley
Colonel, USAF, Retired

Agreed. To really wrap your head around what’s being said here (the sum of it), just ask yourself, when our men and women start coming home from the front, and are sitting at their tables weeping about what life has become (see recent FDL post on same), are you really going to be brazen enough to call them out using the p word?

We all know how insidious is the radical behaviorist/mass media agenda: Skip over the conditions and go directly to the character assassination. Fortunately, thinking people know that making the rounds picking low hanging fruit and going dumpster diving doesn’t preclude someone from being completely out of their depth. The 101st keyboard fraternity would be shown up as hollow men compared to people like Wamsley who served 3 decades defending this country, and who gave more than a few pounds of flesh.

You see what I did there?

I do believe we’ve got a think-tank going here, comrade.

Yeah.

Suppose Wamsley were a woman. Would it be ok to call Bast a quisling welfare king then?

Discuss.

And you’ve got that icky purity troll smell all over you, bub. Next you’ll be telling me that sying “sucks” and “blows” are anti-gay slurs. Whatever. Keep your language pure and your mind fixated on the unimportant stuff, while the 1% continue to fuck us over and laugh at our stupid purity fights while doing it.

Believe it or not, it _is_ possible to care about people’s word choice, and other things in life! Shocking, I know.

May God forgive you for your eyes that fail to see.

Possible… but not necessary or important in the grand scheme of things.

Oh gee, now it’s clear. Thanks for explaining to me what is and is not important in the world. I’m so glad that someone has finally clearly explained to me how my views and opinions were wrong by the infallible logic of ‘because a man told me my opinions are not necessary or important in the grand scheme of things’. After all, problems are only _real_ problems if an authoritative man thinks they are. Thanks so much!

If you’re too incoherent to explain why this is not ‘necessary or important’ maybe you should step off your soapbox, you cruel and pompous ass.

Re: “pussy” as used in this post’s headline… I think that one problem that’s showing up here is that this word has taken on a derivative meaning that is at least somewhat apart from its more fundamental slang meaning, “vagina”. Which means that it can be used to mean “coward”, with the speaker/writer not having to intend much more than that meaning in a given instance. (I’m not any kind of linguist, but I have a feeling that the sound of “pussy” to English-speaking ears, the fact that it’s a diminutive, and its alternate use to mean a small animal, has contributed to its currency as a synonym for coward.)

Having said that, women are not usually called “pussies” meaning “timid, fearful, contemptibly gutless”. They can be called “wusses”, a derivative which doesn’t carry the sexual overtone of “pussy” and seems to be relatively gender neutral. A timid person of either sex can also be called “sissy”, which in earlier days used to be equivalent to “fag” but had gotten to be a sex-neutral term among schoolkids by the time I was growing up (late 1940s-50s).

Pretty much, it’s men who call other men “pussies” to denigrate their manliness and courage. The problem for a woman hearing it is that – even though the given man, at that given point, really means not much more than “I think you’re a gutless coward who’ll scream for your mama or daddy at the slightest provocation” – the woman can nevertheless hear the deep, old thought that led to THAT term coming to mean THAT, to wit: “I’m calling you a woman. I’m calling you a woman’s genital. I’m doing this because women are fearful, and have no dicks or balls, and I think you’re like that, and I have no respect for you.” It’s a simple-minded, primitive kind of thought, running below the daytime radar. But a lot of what goes on between the genders is like that. Making these things more conscious helps us understand better, IMO.

Parenthetically, it used to be true that “cunt” was a well-known male to male insult in the UK. It didn’t meant “coward”, specifically, AFAIK – I think it was more a strong general pejorative. Whether they still use it that way over there, I don’t know.

I appreciate this, except that I would add that it’s a bit optimistic to think that women who hear that word are only hearing its historical overtones. I suspect a very great many of them have had lots of personal exposure to it being used specifically for its feminine connotations. The world is not as enlightened as we’d like it to be and there are many, many people who come from a world where the ‘old ways’ of femininity equating to cowardice still rings true. And it’s incredibly disrespectful and reflective of privilege to use a word like that that is representative of still-real hostility towards and diminishing of women and femininity.

From wattsupwiththat.com :

Joe Bast of the Heartland Institute gives a video interview with the Wall Street Journal. He accuses Gleick directly, saying:

Gleick “impersonated a board member of the Heartland Institute, stole his identity by creating a fake email address, and proceeded to use that fake email address to steal documents that were prepared for a board meeting. He read those documents, concluded that there was no smoking gun in them, and then forged a two-page memo”

I don’t think Glieck has confessed to forging the 2 page, fake “strategy” memo, so Bast is getting ahead of himself. However, he’s not the only person who believes that Glieck is the forgerer.

Bast doesn’t seem like a bitter kind of guy, but a lot of people in the skeptic camp do seem bitter. Bitter about being called “denialists”, which sounds an aweful lot like “holocaust denialists”. Bitter about the persecution of honest scientists and editors. And bitter (in some areas, like Australia) about the politicians who have embraced the catastrophic global warming climate change religion, along with it’s required, attendant taxes, which will put a strain on family finances, but that are guaranteed to have no significant effect on climate, even given the IPCC middling models.

If anybody wants an honest, balanced introduction to what the real scientific controversy is about, I have a new favorite: Catastrophe Denied: A Critique of Man Mad Catastrophic Global Warming Theory. A briefer, written intro is here.

Please pay close attention to his discussion of “plug variables” in various climate models. They sound an awful lot like what we used to call “fudge factors”, back in the day. What particularly funny is that the aerosol “plug variable” had a different value in each model – it was adjusted to give the right answer for that model, but was re-jiggered to a different value, for every other model.

One reviewer is now charging outright fraud in a current IPCC model – Omitted variable fraud: vast evidence for solar climate driver rates one oblique sentence in AR5

So, it appears (I say “appears” because I haven’t studied the climate models) that first the “climate scientists” guarantee a misleading model by ignoring solar magnetic forces; then, at least in some cases, cover up their erroneous predictions by using a very forgiving variable for aerosols, that can be, well, whatever you need it to be!

Endersbee found an even higher correlation between a 22 year (2 solar cycle) moving average of Sea Surface Temperature and CO2 at Mauna Loa – 0.9959 – than is mentioned in this last reference.

I don’t know what’s in the Bast guy’s heart, but he may be persuaded to prosecute Glieck, as a way of bringing yet more attention to the underhanded methods, the ahem, questionable science of the global warming climate change mafia, and relief for scientific dissenters.

Holy shit. Just when you thought this thread couldn’t get any better, comes now a Heartland Institute fluffer.

I keep hearing that old Was/Not Was song, “Floorboards squeak/Out come the freaks.”

If that’s how you feel, maybe you should just go the fuck away.

I come here for a lot of reasons, but mostly because I love TBogg’s style. That includes a healthy disdain for purists of all types, including language nazis like you. If TBogg were to start taking people like you seriously, and started toning down his language for fear of offending your sensitive fee-fee’s, I still come here, but I’d miss that fuck-you attitude.

I’m sure there are other places in FDL where your kind of bullshit will not only be tolerated, but celebrated. If you really think TBogg is a “cruel and pompus ass,” maybe you should go visit one of them and leave the rest of us the fuck alone?

Why would I ever do that? it’s just so fun to talk to you! What the hell are you getting your panties all in a twist for? You started the insults, not me. Or are you too much of a pussy to handle someone coming in here and fighting fire with fire because you get so hostile after I dare to criticize the asshole you cherish?

I suppose ‘cunt’ is way out of bounds in your world.

If the word ‘pussy’ in the title offends you, perhaps it is best you don’t read the article because your complaining makes you sound like, what’s the word… a little bitch!!

Female dogs everywhere are offended, way to go Todd, you dick (or is it little shit?)

What an insightful comment! I’m sure that everybody can go back to sleep, now.

IIRC, only 25% of Americans take high school physics. Would you be so kind as to tell us whether you are one of the 25%, or not?

We get it, you care.

Many other people here don’t… it is as simple as that.

‘or is it little shit?’

If your response to someone offering criticism is to inflame the issue even further and basically say ‘your kind is not wanted here’, I’m pretty sure the best descriptor is ‘petulant and childish bully’. But i’m open to other suggestions.

Would it have been better if he’s called Bast a douche? Because that would infer a clean pussy, right?

Sometimes a pussy is just a pussy.

There. I said it.

And by that same logic, sometimes a f***** is just a f*****. And yet I think it’s pretty unlikely you’d headline this with ‘Joseph Bast is kind of a big f*****’. Funny, that.

I assume you came here to rail against the use of the word ‘pussy’.

That’s why you clicked on the link and that is why you commented, is it not?

I just wanted to give you what you wanted, to allow you to get it all out, and then maybe you would feel better.

OR

maybe you could just lighten the fuck up to begin with, realize that the world doesn’t revolve around you and you don’t run the show here and you’d more than likely enjoy life that much more.

Do you know what we call people who hang out in the smokers lounge and bitch about the smoke?

We call them fucking stupid, but I am open to other suggestions!

I really don’t want to come here and hear shit like “while we have financial considerations that need to be met, we don’t want to ignore our ethical and moral matters that we are obligated to defend”

sometimes you just want to hear “that fucker’s a pussy who can choke on a bag of salted dicks!”

It’s like we’re in the trenches with Francis from Stripes. They’re getting ready to shove shit in women’s vaginas and we got three toe over here saying “if any of you people use pussy in a derogatory manner, I’ll fucking kill ya”

Lighten up Francis, and then get your priorities straight.

I’m sorry I didn’t realize that this was the discussion meeting for coordinating the political effort to undo the fucked-up shit republicans are doing, I would never want to disturb such an important crowd.

Why the fuck should I give a shit what some stupid ass ‘liberal’ dudes who want to play with their dicks together on a ‘progressive’ site think is fun? Why should I care what makes you feel better? That you take up space on a site that is fundraising for Occupy is fucking shameful.

You are literally throwing a gigantic temper tantrum from me asking people not to use _one fucking word_. There are so many other wonderful, beautiful insults out there that you can use. There are like 5 major ones that are explicitly demeaning to women. Is it _really_ so much to fucking ask that you reconsider why you need to use those specific words? Are you so much of a fucking child that you are mortally offended at the thought of removing _five_ _words_ from your public vocabulary for the sake of not being a fucking asshole and implicitly demeaning half of the fucking population on a ‘leftist’ site that is theoretically in favor of gender equality? Why is this such a fucking burden to you? Why did _you_ get so offended by my not liking this that you flipped out and started using nasty insults to me specifically for the purpose of upsetting me? Why should I give you any fucking respect when you’ve been nothing but an aggressive condescending bully this whole fucking time?

I know that people who use ‘bad’ terminology can often have their hearts in the right place, and I am not going to fucking crucify somebody for using the wrong language. But how do you get a stick so fucking far up your butt about this to just aggressively go after me for saying ‘using that word that way is inherently demeaning to women, and this is how, and I wish you would not do it’?

Jesus Christ.

Very nicely put. Now get the fuck out.

I think you are mistaken on who is throwing the temper tantrum.

If using the word ‘pussy’ offends you, then don’t use it.

If you think people who use the word pussy are assholes, then don’t hang around them.

If you insist on critizing people you consider to be assholes, don’t be to surprised if they act like assholes.

If you call out in your post ‘Why don’t you just call me a pussy for complaining’ don’t be surprised when one of these, by your definition, assholes, then calls you a pussy for complaining.

Don’t come here and try to stir up a shit storm because this place is in your words ‘shameful’ and then complain about lack of respect.

I gave you what you wanted. Exactly what you literally asked for.

I don’t find words like pussy or dick, heel or asshole demeaning, so I will continue to use them. If this offends you, then be offended.

I don’t think you should get the fuck out… I just don’t care if the word pussy offends you because I didn’t invite you here and I’m not making you stay.

If you are going to stay, you are going to have to stop being such a pussy, ’cause I don’t think this place is going to change on your account.

That’s okay, I’ll just keep posting til it does!

I see. And me explaining, clearly and directly, _why_ the word is offensive and demeaning, does nothing for you. I can see we’re dealing with a real intellectual heavyweight here.

don’t hold your breath on that one… pussy.

You see, you do get something out of it. I feed trolls.

‘Complain And Explain: If somebody says or does something fucked up, call them out on it. Don’t pretend like fucked up things never get said because you are afraid of getting exiled from the kingdom of being Angie Dickinson in the Rat Pack. It makes people uncomfortable to get called out on their bullshit, and they get weird and defensive (John Mayer), especially since they know they were bullshitting to begin with.

But it’s a function of not thinking about how fucked up it feels when fucked up things get said and nobody else thinks it’s fucked up, because they just don’t knowwwww. They’re not always trying to be assholes, they just literally sometimes do not get it. It is better to engage than to roll your eyes. Some guys will keep trolling you until the very last second. You can almost always get them to admit that they’re just trying to push your buttons and don’t really believe the thing they are arguing in favor of.’

-http://thisrecording.com/today/2011/2/22/in-which-we-teach-you-how-to-be-a-woman-in-any-boys-club.html

You sad, sad creature.

But that’s your opinion, and while you are welcome to it, I don’t have to abide by it, or share it.

Many people here, don’t find the word ‘pussy’ demeaning or insulting, so we will use it.

Some people find porno demeaning and insulting to women, some people, including myself, don’t. So, if I choose to watch porno in my house, and TBogg chooses to use the word pussy on his blog, maybe you could come to the realization that we aren’t in your house, and you really have no say in the matter.

And if the fact that this is on an Occupy website is in your opinion shameful, well, take that shit up with management, ’cause I’ll just tell you to quit being a PUSSY.

: If somebody says or does something fucked up, call them out on it.

Well, I think you’re being a pussy about the whole matter, should I call you out on it?

I’m sorry which part of this thought process is an opinion:

-that the word as you are using it emerges from an association of femininity with weakness and cowardice
-that we are not in a post-sexist society and so that sort of usage of the word reinforces that association
-that reinforcing the association of femininity with weakness and cowardice is demeaning and disrespectful

Or are you intellectually incapable of comprehending a three-step logical process when it makes you uncomfortable?

-that the word as you are using it emerges from an association of femininity with weakness and cowardice

actually, according to the Websters 1913 Abridged dictionary the word pussy, when used to denote cowardice, derives from the English word ‘pursy’ meaning ‘fat’ and ‘short of breath’

It’s your opinion that the word pussy is associated with femininity, but it is, according to Websters, incorrect. It is associated with being fat and short of breath, which devolved into coward.

Google ‘pursy pussy’ and see for yourself.

Maybe you should work on your intellect a little more (and lose the attitude) and we won’t have these problems.

So maybe if the utterance of a word offends you so much, you should spend a little time learning about it, instead of insulting other people’s IQ and humanity.

You’re going from a blowhard pussy into the realm of stupid bitch, so just stop.

The word doesn’t mean what you think it means, now apologize and move on.

It’s your opinion that the word pussy is associated with femininity

this should read: ‘it is your opinion that the word pussy, when used to denote cowardice, is associated with femininity’

I concede that I was not aware of this distinction.

To imply you possess a superior intellect when your response is a direct paraphrase of a wikipedia entry is rather amusing.

And, in fact, from the very same wikipedia entry, which I will quote directly rather than pretend it is my own words:

‘The word pussy can also be used in a derogatory sense to refer to a male who is not considered sufficiently masculine (see Gender role). When used in this sense, it carries the implication of being easily fatigued, weak or cowardly.

Men dominated by women (particularly their partners or spouses and at one time referred to as ‘Hen-pecked’) can be referred to as pussy-whipped (or simply whipped in slightly more polite society or media).’

But I am sure that you, in your intellectual grandiosity, are clearly able to tell the difference between the two uses of the word when in fact they are both used to describe the same characteristics of cowardice and weakness, with the additional aspect of gender roles. It would appear to me that the original origins of the word have been corrupted in recent years to incorporate both its original meaning and gender associations, and that all those fellows who aggressively call their faint-hearted companions ‘pussies’ are using it with the gender connotations and supporting the construct of masculinity. But this must be a result of my intellectual limitations.

It would appear to me

SO now we are back to “it’s your opinion”. Which is what I said it was in the first place.

Which is fine, but when something ‘appears to you’ to be one way, it doesn’t mean that is what it is.

Maybe you should take your list of “Shit I need to be Offended About” and scrap it and start fresh!!

And when you start your new list, try to learn what the words that offend you actually mean first.

But I am sure that you, in your intellectual grandiosity, are clearly able to tell the difference between the two uses of the word

I can. Enough said then, right? I know what the word means, and can tell the difference between the two uses of the word, and you can’t.

So then, I am ok to use the word ‘pussy’ to denote cowardice and it won’t offend you?

No, actually, you can’t, you incredibly obtuse and idiotic douchebag. Your adorable assumption that you can intellectually manage what you say and mean exactly what you think you mean in your little intellectual fantasy world is basically that you can walk around saying ‘I’m not sexist, but…’ and think that that actually _works_. I wonder if you made fun of republicans who said ‘tar baby’ or ‘macaca’, or nobly supported their efforts that ‘they didn’t really mean it that way’.

Hey, you know what i think is cool? Life. Life is a really cool and awesome thing! I think I’m going to call myself ‘pro-life’ from now on. I’m sure that the intent of what I’m saying will come through loud and clear.

I’m afraid it will.

And has.

You hero of women everywhere you.

Wow, this debate is still going on? Awesome. I love the inability of Mr./Ms. Giant Tree Sloth to differentiate between calling someone an ethnic slur to his face (“macaca”) and using a term that, in everyday usage, has no correlation to any individual woman, or women in general (“pussy”). Likewise, he/she earlier showed an inability to differentiate between telling a “joke” that explicitly demeans women and using a word that, again, references nobody but the person it is being applied to.

What a world he/she must live in. Unable to watch “The Sopranos” because one of the characters was called “Big Pussy.” Unable to listen to The Pussycat Dolls or watch “What’s Up, Pussycat?” Hates James Bond, because of Pussy Galore. Forget about listening to Rammstein. Poor dear.

In real life, I’m a little old lady who’s goddamn sick and tired of pointing out to smarmy, sneering men that calling each other pussy means that the worst insult is being a woman. That’s what you’re saying.

If that’s not what you mean, find another fucking epithet.

Your concern is noted.