Obviously these commenter guys learned everything they know about sex from 4Chan.

Tbogg, how the hell do you do it? Wade through the filth and slime that pervades the right-wing intertoobz. Vile.

What those people will say…

The mind. It boggles.

Obviously these pricks haven’t been paying attention to all the ads by Big Pharma on their television machines; Big Pharma’s always coming out with new, improved (and thus still under patent) medicines that cost the serious big $. This includes BC pills, not just boner pills.

Some ladies have terroristical ladyparts that require hormonal intervention for things other than avoiding getting pregnant, but the BC pills take care of both at the same time. A lotta times the ones best suited to the job are the new, improved, still under patent versions that cost a shit load, so $1,000/year isn’t a stretch at all. These commontaters at Ace’s place must all be sucking the gubmint Medicare teet and don’t know what drugs actually cost. Or they’re just dicks. Could be both actually.

“Wallmart,” that must be the hybrid of WalMart and Wall Drugs. Also, he wants Planned Parenthood to provide all the birth control while at the same time Republicans labor (heh) to defund it.

Ass from their elbow.

“No offense, but” … ahem, but, bless your dickish little heart, lots of offense taken.

Doesn’t Planned Parenthood offer discounts on this? Isn’t this the point of Planned Parenthood, apart from abortions?

I could go on but won’t. IF these dickheaded shits, who no doubt “enjoy” the rough trade sexy time that they inflict on women, kids & other men, want wimmin to buy cheap bc from Planned Parenthood, then why are they trying to run PP out of business?

Yeah, I know: today I’m all kinds of crazytime bc I keep trying to make sense.

Christ. I have nothing.

Though I hope Dr. Ace and Dr. Sean keep this up. The slow drip of women falling off republican voter rolls should soon start become a stream, then a river, then a beautiful, cascading waterfall.

I like waterfalls.

Evidently ole Sean has never heard of preventative medicine. Pregnancy IS a medical condition, seeing’s without good medical care, for every 100,000 births, on average 1,500 women would die in the process.

I wonder what the inside of Hannity’s head looks like.

“The Only Way… She could possibly get to this figure is including the cost of a separate gynecological exam as part of the cost for prescription.
That is, she is claiming she’d need a full gynecological exam to secure the prescription in the first place.
I don’t know what PP charges for that kind of a quickie visit and routine prescription but I don’t think it’s very much.
That also presupposes that the gynecologists her insurance does pay for refuse to write birth control scripts, something else I doubt.”

Since a-hole devotes so much space to this argument, too bad he didn’t consult a woman. In fact, a gynecologist won’t prescribe bc pills (or implant an IUD or do stuff like that) with out conducting a full exam, at least annually or more often, if a woman has certain conditions or various issues/problems. Maybe he’s going by the practices of the kinds of doctor Limbaugh visits (excuse me — used to visit), who prescribe serious drugs just because the patient asks for them.

A parasitic infection that sucks nutrients from the host’s body, causing such complications as nausea, weight gain, abdominal swelling, mood swings, and eventual massive vaginal discharge, is not considered a medical condition?

Now you see, this is exactly why I want the complete eunich that is Rick Santorum become the Republican nominee. Then we ‘older’ mothers can sit back on the sofa with our daughters and tell them that this is exactly what we were fighting against 40 years ago. How do you think that would go over with someone who has always had control over her own body, who was born after all of our hard work? They will think it’s either a joke or will never, ever, vote for a Republican again.

After all of these crazy-ass Virginia-style “Your Dr. can rape you now” laws, the present generation is now feasting it’s eyes on what their mothers and grandmothers had to listen to for years. We will have living proof that, yes, these assholes truly exist and they want to rule your uterus. They, of course, on the other hand will be allowed as much Viagra as needed, which I would assume amoung this crowd will be an astounding amount.

I tip my hat to my “Lib” forebears who worked so hard and so diligently to bring forth a nation; that has such demonstrated compassion, it can afford Ace of Spades a chance to earn an income exposing his insecurities and paranoia to the general public.

I’ve seen them as often as three or four times a year – without BC involved. Biology can be a pain.

Teh Stoopid, it burns. And with the conservatives, there’s a lot of it burning.

Yeah, quickie visit to ob-gyn. Again, consult a woman, you fool! A full gyno exam, which is indeed required to get any kind of bc prescription (and is what PP does lots of) is no quickie visit.

Let’s put him up in the stirrups and find an orifice to stick the ice-cold speculum up and all the other parts of a full exam.
and send him off to Wal-Mart or Walgreen’s or wherever to buy a script on a minimum-wage salary.
Grrrrrr. I’m really getting pissed off all the damn time.

Oh, and whenever they say preventing pregnancy is not a health issue…again, it’s a little like living in the age of vaccines; most of these young parents have never seen what measlses, whooping cough, polio, etc. can do, so they think they can do without vaccination.

I will never forget a poor woman I worked with in a dishroom in Indiana when I was a college student. The job was her career. I thought she was forty-ish when I met her. It was the days when health insurance meant, at best, major medical, hospitalization. I doubt that she had any kind of insurance at all, and little if any prenatal care for her four or five pregnancies. (Her husband would disappear for a year or so, come home for a few weeks, leave her preggers, and disappear again.)
She turned out to be 27. She had no teeth, was scrawny and with poor skin.
That’s what pregnancy can do to you. Without proper diet and prenatal vitamins, the fetus sucks calcium right of the mother’s bones. That’s one thing that happens. There’s a reason women look younger at ages like fifty and sixty that once meant wrinkles and stooped shoulders and exhaustion.
Good diet and health care are the major reasons…and part of that damn improved health care is NOT HAVING A BABY EVERY FUCKING YEAR!

Okay. Sorry about that. Who is this Ace of Spades? If I ever meet him..well, let’s just say he would not forget the meeting.

So whatever happened to Mary Katherine Ham?

Oh,no. I got out of the boat (or is it into the boat? I’m never sure) and went to read the original: Condoms! The only form of bc this ahole discusses is condoms! The only form of birth control used by…MEN! WTF?

Apparently among his vast areas of ignorance is the fact that there are at least a dozen kinds of oral birth control and several kinds of barrier birth control, all of which REQUIRE A F’ing prescription!!!!

I am so mad I’m spitting.
And the comments…well, comments like that are partly why I’m trying to take a vacay form politics on the toobz…see how well that’s working.

But really, how the hell can any grown man be this collossally, galactically ignorant?
I kept wondering why he was estimating students having sex three times a day based on the cost the witness mentioned; could he not know that you don’t just take oral bc on the day you have sex? You have to take it all the damn time, all year long, even if you only have sex one week of your Easter vacation.

But given that he turned out to be talking about condoms, as if it were 1952 (and nobody had told him yet about diaphragms), I’m guessing he could be that ignorant and stupid.
Ay-yi-yi. I really do need a break.

Reality sucks. My father had a vasectomy in 1947. Yeah, 1947! I was a ‘cervical cap’ (middle of 3 kids, born 1 year apart..yeah, I’m old). I’m not sure what the others were. The oldest was born 9 months and 1 week after my parents were married. And yes, they waited. I’m not sure that men even knew what a vasectomy was in 1947, but desperation, and some smarts, breeds a lot of questions. I guess my dad’s (and mother’s) paid off.

Women have been trying to figure out ways to have sex and not get pregnant from the dawn of time. And lo and behold, we find a way in the early ’60s for all women to do what they have been searching for forever and these assclowns are trying to walk it all back? The Republicans of today have got to be the most insane political party I have ever witnessed. And that’s saying something. All because a black man is President. Really. The Republicans are going to drive all women with half a brain or more against their party because a black man is President! Unfuckingbelievable.

tejanrusa: Here — I’ve made a lovely cocktail for you. Sit down, put your feet up and sip. Take a deep breath.

Now, to answer your question:

But really, how the hell can any grown man be this collossally, galactically ignorant?

The (excuse for a) man lives in a bubble/echo chamber. He probably doesn’t get laid and has always had a low fuck-quotient. His audience, as evidenced by the comment section, still belong to the Dukes of Hazzard (sp) Fan Club even though the cast of the show have moved on with their lives. In short (as it must be with the Ace of Spades – how could it not be short?), he’s ugly, not very bright, and sets off a normal person’s ‘weirdo-radar’ when in the vicinity.

Ignorance is his defense mechanism to prevent reality from hitting him.

Well, compared to a man’s god-given right to get his dick hard, there’s really no comparison, is there?

Last I saw, Mary Katherine Muppetmouth was writing for Tucker’s The Daily Caller. So, you might say her career ended.

In response to numerous above.
Just yesterday I (now above 60) was driving my nearly 30-year-old daughter to the train station after a wonderful weekend visit, when we worked on planning her impending wedding, lots of good stuff. (Life can be good.) So. Two-hour drive, and she asks me an innocent question about a cousin of mine, and then I start telling family stories (she’s driving, I’m leaning back, spouting forth), stories about my own friends, my grandmother, mother, cousins, various folks. And we both realize, wow: I’d recounted maybe ten stories of girls/women in my/our little world who’d gotten pregnant (“nice” middle-class girls in the 1920′s, 1930′s, through the 60′s and 70′s) and “had to get married.” (We didn’t get into the abortion stories — like my married and already-childrened grandmother who had two, in the 1920′s, for instance.) And my daughter, feminist-alert as she be, was dumbstruck. Wow. She knew, but she didn’t know. Let the world know, she said. It really hit her how different the world had been for people she’d heard about all her life in different contexts.
Hard-won. We owe it to our mothers and grandmothers, ourselves and our daughters. And to the good men in our lives. (And to ourselves as protection as the not-so-good ones, or the good ones who in weak moments aren’t so good.)

reply to TBogg (reply, tools are not working for me) – Spew!

jcricket: Thank you, thank you. I did really need that.
Tomorrow, I’m staying off the tubes. Really. I mean it. Maybe some lolcats. Or archival bassets. No politics, I swear.

So true. Doing some research on the colonial era, came across a statistic that something like 80% or more of colonial era brides were pregnant. It was almost standard. The big difference is we don’t force the marriage these days.

But not widely recognized. I think that researcher figured it out from dates of marriage and subsequent births, using official records, family bibles, other documents. Whateve the figure, it was surprisingly high.

Wow. Not that I should be surprised in the slightest, but Craig Bannister (I got out of the boat) really doesn’t understand how the pill works, how it is prescribed, that it needs to be taken every day, how it has additional health benefits for many women, etc. Plus, condoms can break. Do these guys know any women who aren’t forced to interact with them?

Meanwhile, it would be hard to find a clip that screamed hilarious conservative male privilege more than that Hannity one. He wants sex without consequences, but those slutty women shouldn’t be allowed the same. “Because that is a medical problem versus a choice to have sex!” Yes, because we all know erections are necessary for so many things besides sex. Why, without his little blue pill, Sean couldn’t count to 21.

Have you ever been in a windowless room with no lights and the door closed?

Yeah, it is full of roaches.

Ace of Spades is a shithole of a cesspool of a site. Ive been over there ratfucking for quite some time. There is zero security there, so you can post immediately and you can post under anyones name-even current users. They call it sock puppeting, I call it ratfucking. The paranoia, the delusions and the hate are unbridled. All things wrong in the universe are Obamas fault. And the racism, well…

I tell them that once the election is concluded and we have another 4 years, we will begin to systematically round up those in need of reeducation. Many believe this nonsense.

But not with taxpayer dollars and not with forced mandates squashing people’s choices.

Unless it’s a gov’t mandate to rape women before they can get a perfectly legal medical procedure … or defunding PP, thus leaving millions of women without any choices …. or the choice for that woman to have that perfectly legal medical procedure in the first place.

Those choices? Those are baaaaddd.

Had I but known vaginologist were a career path I could have chosen…

I have to divert from the path of even acknowledging these assmunches. There are times I look at the capabilities and wonder of everything around us and these are the issues that we keep dealing with?!?! The mind, we know, boggles but the heart, she breaks….

In College during my early American History Class the Professor brought up that same statistic as it applied to the Puritans. Part of the reason for this was that young adults were leagally the chattle of their parents (Fathers) until they were married, and they couldn’t get married without their parent’s permission. Many Fathers witheld they permission, because they didn’t want to lose the free labor. So to get around this the kids …

Maybe he’s going by the practices of the kinds of doctor Limbaugh Limbaugh’s housekeeper visits (excuse me — used to visit), who prescribe serious drugs just because the patient housekeeper asks for them.

FTFY.

On a more serious note: I just love the argument that Scarborough parrots about how Viagra is for a “medical condition” but birth control is only about wanting to have sex. I would love to be a guest, just so I could ask him why he needed Viagra if it wasn’t about wanting to have sex.

On the fascinating colonial (and pre-colonial) era stats. A question, truly out of historical curiosity. Can we estimate how many of these marriages were truly “had to get married” and how many were the result of “properly engaged” couples being given leeway for a little pre-marital nookie (chaperones having been removed upon engagement) — nookie not formally approved but not thoroughly disapproved, either? (Maybe even approved, with a wink and a nod.) I’m thinking of the days when “engagement” referred to legally enforceable contracts, to “publishing the bans,” and all that.

Truly just curious. What strikes me in any case: earlier generations that didn’t enjoy the advantages of today’s birth control methods were often much more understanding and tolerant and, dare I say, celebratory of young people’s, especially young people’s (really young by today’s standards), sexual/sensual/erotic drives. Scared of them, too, but largely because of the babies that could result (as well as the disruption of families and all because of “infidelity” by married people — nobody ever said life is easy). But why did so many people get just plain scared, especially when means of allaying those fears became available?

Hatmando:
“The slow drip of women falling off republican voter rolls should soon start become a stream, then a river, then a beautiful, cascading waterfall.

I like waterfalls.”

This is really great, thank you for sharing this.

I wonder what the inside of Hannity’s head looks like.

Bacon and play-doh.