Oh Jeez! Listening to those greatest hits brings back just what a lucky break the world got when the Maverick Team ™ did not manage to get elected.

I’m not convinced Hannity is bright enough to open a child-proof cap on a bottle of aspirin.

He’s great at unbuttoning Dick Cheney’s pants and going right for the meat during interviews though….

Couric: “…what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read…to stay informed and to understand the world?”

Quiet. Nasty. Quietly nasty.

Fer fuck’s sake, Bill Clinton could riff for 10 minutes on a question like that.

Bless her heart.

It demonstrates Palin’s basic victimology mindset. That she saw such a softball question as a “gotcha” and implying that Alaska doesn’t get magazines is indicative that she herself is also sadly out of touch with the lower 48. What ordinary person would think they wouldn’t have access to virtually all of the reading material they might have in the rest of the country.

I am sure that virtually anyone could have knocked that one out of the park.

admittedly helped select Pain because

pain indeed.

Yep. This.

Hmmmm, here doesn’t seem to be any sort of commenting system in place over at the Standard. Disloyal coming from that bunch is a laugh.

Yep, I got off the boat and I say not again, TBogg. [looks for brillo pad to scrub brain]

In what way, Charlie?

That response always gets me chuckling. Then I realize she was actually running as a candidate for VP of the United States.

55 minutes to go until “Game Change”. We know the outcome, but, gosh, I do like a movie with a happy ending.

I guess I really don’t like the way that photo of Palin is used to assassinate her credibility as an adult public figure. Basically what gets done in this, is you take a private photo of a young woman expressing some aspect of her sexuality and/or femininity, and use it diminish or degrade her standing as a public figure.

I certainly think that Palin has no business running for office, and that she is a crude opportunistic career shock jock with wacky political views. I also firmly believe that if a similar photo were used against Hillary Clinton, that the shrieks, wails, and whimpers of “misogyny!” and “sexism!” would ring to the high heavens on the left and on web sites like this.

One of things I find really gross is the way that many self-proclaimed feminists and liberals have used Palin’s femininity – her image as a runner and fit outdoorsy type who can be photographed in running shorts, or this image of her in a goofy t-shirt referencing her boobs in an offhand way – against her in ways that would be taken as intolerable violations and offenses if the same was done to a female public figures “accepted” on the left.

sixgill@9: If Hillary wore the t-shirt, she would have made sure the punctuation was in the right place. Just sayin’.

But, thanks, your concern is noted.

P.S.: I’m a feminist.

This has nothing to do with Sarah’s femininity – it has everything to do with her lack of knowledge and her refusal to learn. Apparently the campaign tried to brief her before interviews and she brushed them off. No one should be that confident – no one. The idea of her being one heartbeat away from the Oval Office is really scary.

Not concerned all, just disgusted by a few years now of watching Palin get attacked in really low ways. I mean, Christ, the woman is a wacky airhead, and her views and commentary can be debunked or rebutted easily without:

1) Posting private photos of her taken when she was a young woman next to commentary addressing her adult public figure standing (TBogg hardly led the charge here).

2) Fixating on her traditionally feminine looks as a point of criticism and attack against her political leader standing in general (there are lots of examples of this but for a real creepy set of examples see Katha Pollitt in The Nation).

3) Calling her “Barbie” for running for Vice-President. If Pelosi, Clinton, et al had been called “Barbie” by anyone on the right (such as Limbaugh) the shrieks and whines from self-proclaimed feminists of “misogyny!” and “sexism!” would never have ended.

4) Making fun of her socioeconomic class background as a way of dismissing her public standing – the entire legion of Harvard/Yale liberals have trashed this woman’s humble origins as if, because she had the gall to be born less than wealthy, she should be ridiculed for stepping out in public.

While, again, I have little respect for Palin’s “ideas” (to the extent she really has any) or opportunistic career as an unhelpful political bomb-thrower, I find it pretty telling, the way she was received in high places on the left, in particular among self-proclaimed feminists, some of whom never really had to have a job (see most of the female writers of The Nation, The New Republic, and elsewhere in “circles”) in this very upstairs-downstairs way wherein the facts that Palin has a traditionally female hairstyle, does not wear pantsuits, and comes from a non-wealthy background were used as long knives.

Finally, duly noted that you had no real response to anything I wrote, just a sneering dismissal (I’ve seen this from you often; all attitude, no thought, and not really any style to speak of).

But, thanks, your reply is noted.

BS – sorry – that photo has been used for *years* to assassinate the mature public figure by putting commentary about her public figure status or positions next to a private photo of her as a near-teenage or possibly teenage girl wearing a goofy shirt at home in front of her boyfriend or something.

It’s a cheap shot; and I like to think that the left is above cheap shots. We don’t have to do what Limbaugh does; and putting that photo up next to comments about her public figure status as an adult is analagous to calling her a prostitute or a slut for taking political positions that you don’t like.

And again, to make it clear, I think she is a wacky airhead at best and probably a pretty insincere dissembling manipulator making things worse in America more likely.

I happen to think that Sarah is a very good looking woman. She is just so uninformed. She could have brought a lot to the R ticket – instead she flounced around, pretended to be the victim about everything and had nothing to contribute. She embarrassed me as a woman. I don’t like for women in public life to appear dumb – it means that I worked in politics for 30 years, labored hard and produced Britney Spears. Women are smart and capable – let’s not showcase the ones who are not.

This is a reasonable complaint! I just don’t like the upstairs-downstairs bullshit that came from “establishment” feminists, I am really alienated by the let’s-call-her-a-snowbillie-let’s-call-her-Barbie Axis of Bullshit firing squad that piled on when she appeared. The fact is that Palin, unlike Hillary Clinton, didn’t ride a man’s coattails for 20 years, and the fact is that Palin is not the only female rightist political leader to have embodied certain notions of career and societal independence and freedom long heralded on the left (see the monstrous, Strangelove-esque Condoleeza Rice for an example).

Thanks Sixgill, I have to agree with the points you make. It’s good to be pulled up short when we get careless. Uncomfortable but valuable. Please keep it up.

Look at it this way: if Palin shows up in public declaring that all of us should be Pentecosts and that the Middle East should be bombed and that global warming is a hoax etc etc etc and our response on the left is “Look! She has boobs! And she was born in Alaska!” then …

… who is being the worse airhead?

The support is appreciated.

And I’ve said what I have to say worth saying, and it’s time to go drink with some good people. See you ’round.

At the risk of feeding the troll.. the picture is funny. Sarah’s primary political draw is her physical attractiveness. It’s all she’s got and she knew it from the time she was in “college.” One of the half dozen third-class community colleges she attended. Nothing against attending a half dozen third class junior colleges, that’s a fine career path for lots of confused young folks, but in the case of this perpetually confused public figure, it gives a particular insight to her, ahem, talents, and her background. But yeah, elitist Yale liberals or something like that.. I went to a community college and then a state university myself, but that’s neither here nor there.

And the t-shirt is funny, simple as that.

Not surprised the humor is lost on you though.

a) I am not a troll, I simply am saying things that have merit, that you don’t like.

b) I’d say that, if you asked most of Palin’s supporters like in the form of polls showing which population demographics support her the most you’d find probably that it is her religious affiliation that is her strongest draw, with strong tie-in among segments in the population that are principally rural, etc. She was a proto- Tea Party figure. This has little to do with her looks. No, no, it’s true: she has political support in a chunk of the population because of the wacky extremist nutbag positions she publicly supports, not because of her looks.

And yes, the humor IS lost on me. I have dealt with the upper-class and establishment “liberal” set myself, and because *I* was born poor, and didn’t go to an elitist school, I have been dismissed, sneered at, and insulted as well.

Finally, I like to think that I am ethical at least to the extent that I am not completely hypocritical, and if I complain that when I stand up in public and claim that the right wing is “waging a war on women” and engaged in duplicitous, low-class cheap shots on my political leaders that have nothing to do with the merit of their views and positions, but instead pander to the lowest common denominator or simply breed mindless contempt, that I don’t do the same thing to other people myself.

Chew on that! Or don’t.

And g’night!

I hope you do not mean to imply that some pretty unpleasants pics of Hillary have not hit the news…and I think purposefully. Maybe not the T-shirt, but long-hair law student, etc. Not at all flattering….Your point Not taken….

I defy anyone to come up with a worse response to “What magazines and newspapers do you read?” than Palin’s “All of them.”

Hands down the single worst answer to a softball question in the history of politics.

What a hysterical rant…Most even sopho “girls” would know that T-shirt is tacky…But what I like best is seeing how completely 6-gill does not like disagreement…As said…G’night. Jeezzzz

I guess if you had grown up as a flat busted young woman you would be rolling on the floor laughing your ass off at the big joke.

Most of us come for the snark. I’m not sure why FDL is putting TBogg on the front page so often, but I hope the sensitive types will get a clue….and stick with David, Jon, Kevin, and Jane when we’re lucky enough to get her, and PW and other front pagers who are dealing with news. Ah, well…..

I’m hoping that TBogg can laugh off the insults and keeping on feeding the snark. But, hey, that’s just me. And my concern is noted.

I also would note that sixgill got all personal and shit. What a guy!

Um “hysterical” Rev? No, sixgill is not the one have a problem with disagreement.

I’m with you, kiddo.

If Palin didn’t look like Slutty Librarian Barbie she never would have been selected. That’s a fact. They wanted her for her youth next to withered goblin McCain.

Also, too, that t-shirt is flat out tacky, Palin was in her third or fourth college when the picture was taken. Went in dumb, came out dumb too.

Watch out, sixgill’s comin’ for ya’. I got yer back. And I’m still laughing that he was all about being sweet to CaribouBarbie while talking shit to a nice old lady such as myself!

Apparently sixgill scratched something that wasn’t itching. Wonder just what it was.

So, the winner of the 1984 “Miss Wasilla” pageant would NEVER use her appearance to further her career ???

Look at her wardrobe choices during public appearances and compare them with what genuine female politicians wear …

I sincerely doubt you’ll find anyone else so often wearing such tight-fitting skirts or blouses with as much decolletage … and surely none teetering around in faux-leopard skin stilletto heels.

Look up the definition of “hypocrite” and you’ll find Palin stands out from the rest there too.

well, naahhhhhhh.

But I’ve done all those things and I didn’t go to either Harvard or Yale. Just goes to show you. Somethin’. or not.

Isn’t the first time that picture has been posted here. If Palin had been wearing a plain shirt, it would still have been posted – the shirt is mildly amusing, but so not the point – because she’s Really Tacky.

Concern Troll’s Concerns Are Noted.

Concern Troll < Red Naughty Monkey Pumps

Not you, clearly, since you’re backing hir up.

And Caribou Barbie is still dim. I don’t think that’s going to improve at this point in her life: it requires actual work.

Katie Couric, a committed liberal with a history of interviewing Republicans and conservatives in a quietly nasty way

COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this — to stay informed and to understand the world?

PALIN: I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media —

COURIC: But which ones specifically? I’m curious.

PALIN: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.

COURIC: Can you name any of them?

PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news. Alaska isn’t a foreign country, where, it’s kind of suggested and it seems like, ‘Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C. may be thinking and doing when you live up there in Alaska?’ Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.

Damn, that’s so quietly nasty, I’m stunned. Katie Couric should be ashamed.

The fact is that Palin, unlike Hillary Clinton, didn’t ride a man’s coattails for 20 years, and the fact is that Palin is not the only female rightist political leader to have embodied certain notions of career and societal independence and freedom long heralded on the left (see the monstrous, Strangelove-esque Condoleeza Rice for an example).

OK, this is the tell, for me, that sixgill is full of shit. Hillary Clinton? Riding a man’s coattails for 20 years? This sounds to me like the typical right-wing response to Mrs. Clinton – she was just lucky to be married to an accomplished politician – she should have justt stayed in the background and talked about her favorite recipes. What right did she have to promote universal health care? What right did she have to run for Senate, or for President? What right does she have to be Secretary of State? She’s just trading on her husband’s accomplishments after all.

And Condoleeza Rice? Please, tell me how in any alternate universe Sarah Palin comes anywhere near the resume that Rice had? Whatever my feelings about her politics, and her bullshit explanations for the failure of the Bush administration to deal with al Queda, Rice did at least have the intellectual heft to be put in the positions of National Security Advisor and Secretary of State. Sarah Palin, on the other hand, is a fucking ignoramous who was selected by McCain’s tem because she was conservative, used guns, and was attractive enough to make idiots like Bill Kristol and Rich Lowry cream in their pants and see starbursts. Sorry, but any mockery Palin gets from liberals is well deserved, and trying to accuse anyone who mocks her of sexism, given everything that Republicans have tried to do to women in this country for the past year, is just ludicrous.

I really like John Cole’s take on Palin here:

It’s really hard to measure what an awful, hideous, disgusting human being she is- a worthless sack of flesh whose only mission in life is to sow hatred and animosity, a sad soul with no ability to empathize or behave as a rational actor, and it is worth remembering that this foul beast almost was the Vice President of the United States. Thanks for that, John McCain.

It is my belief that without the elevation of Palin, in all her ugly ignorant glory, we wouldn’t have had the ascent and acceptance of the tea party. When Palin’s odious vitriol and ugly beliefs were mainstreamed, it paved the way for the Joe the Plumbers and the rest of the ugly uninformed orthogonian lumpenproletariat to wear their ignorance, racism, religious sophistry, hatred, and crude nativism as a badge of honor.

Why the dichotomy between being fit and in shape and feminism? It’s pretty obvious Tbogg uses the shirt to lampoon her essential lack of progression from her undistinguished college years to adulthood, her lack of seriousness — about actually learning anything at a deep level, about being able to express herself clearly, about making the effort to concoct one single, original idea, about mustering up the least bit of shame about all the lies and bullshit and polemical claptrap she has spread so enthusiastically in her overlong stay in the spotlight. Such a posturing jackass deserves ridicule.
It would be shocking if Hillary Rodham ever had such a T-shirt, but if she had it wouldn’t make sense to satirize her image with a photo of her in one. Hillary Clinton quickly attained full adult status, was a top-flight student as opposed to the itinerant academic you’re so concerned about, had no problem sustaining a career while helping raise a terrific, smart, grounded young woman, and is now doing a job Sarah Palin would fuck up before she opened tghe dorr to her office.
And as for the sexism you’re reading into it, I’m sure if there were a picture of Mittens in some similar self-denigrating muscle shirt reflecting his own shallow, narcissistic, intellectually bereft personality, it would find a regular home on the blog.

What you said and double it.

Sarah Palin and her fuck me pumps, frosted lips and steel girder boob shooters had absolutely no problem shaking her shitcans in her quest to be VP.

Her ability to induce boners in fat old white guys was her only qualification.

She is fair game because she shamelessly used her physical desirability to get where she is.

I am still waiting for the soft focus Playboy spread and the twenty year old sex tape.

She has nothing else to offer.

See 26. et seq

Far be it from me to accuse anyone of unaware sexism, but we seem to be holding the Palin to a just a tiny bit higher standard than the republican males. The animosity toward her is something to scratch our heads about. A male can be an utter and complete asshole but he does not upset us and get our juices flowing like we have seen here tonight.

Yes, Far be it from you…How unaware can you be? Do you have a thought disorder?

When something inherently innocuous, like this discussion, makes one very uncomfortable it can be an opportunity to take a fresh look at those feelings and whence they arise.

The T-shirt is part of working-class culture. When you say it’s tacky, what you’re really saying is, “Working people are stupid.” And no, I don’t care what your own personal background is. You haven’t been working-class in a long, long time.

This discussion makes me angry, but it does not surprise me. The left is deeply, deeply classist. The left is the overseers, and it wants working-class slaves to help it overthrow the plantation owners so that it can move into the owners’ house and take over the cotton-growing operations for itself, but still retain its slaves to do the hard work while it manages the operation. But when workers don’t cooperate, it calls them stupid — and it really believes this.

How many of you really, honestly, truly believe working people are morons? Just come out and say it — be honest about it. Because the truth is, it’s most of you. You create organizations that are unwelcoming and uncongenial to the working class, because you don’t really want them around.

You love humanity, but you hate people. How many millions of people have come in contact with the left in some form over the past 40 years? Where are they all now? They don’t stick; most of them bounce off. Why? Either they really are stupid, or there’s something about the way you do what you do that drives them away.

I know, you’ve got a few working-class people who float around here, so naturally that disproves all my points. But out in the real world, working people pay no attention to you. You’ve been doing this for decades, and yet you have no impact on their lives — they have no emotional attachment to you. Either they really are all completely fucking brain-dead morons … or you’re failing miserably and you need to find a mirror.

No, the t shirt is not working class, it is a dramatization of the internalized sexism of a young woman who has bought into the cultures breast fetish and either doesn’t notice or doesn’t care how it demeans all women, but particularly those with different shapes.

I don’t think either you, Eric, or sixgill get it. The Palin picture, like those of George Bush in college, depict two shallow, lazy, mean spirited, narcisists who either almost were given the nation to play with, or actually were. Neither of them changed. They remained the same arrogant, lazy self-seekers they were in their youths. It has nothing to do with the middle class or the Ivy League. It has to do with what may be a structural defect in our education system that has created a big segment of the voting population which can’t tell the difference between life and a reality show.

Do not offend the working class…the T-shirt is lacking in taste, that’s all.

Meh.

It’s nice and all that others are jumping in here to point out the “sexism” in showing a picture of Palin in her college years wearing a stupid mis-punctuated T-shirt, mostly because Palin would never be bothered to do it herself.

Point being, Palin herself considers her looks to be the most important thing. Remember the wink during the debate? People who want to be taken seriously don’t do that shit; people who want everyone watching to think “I’d like to hit that” do.

Some women style themselves as sex objects, and it’s not sexist to portray them as they portray themselves. Palin is a narcissist, and shares the trait of many other attractive narcissistic women of believing that she’s better than other people and deserving of adulation simply because of what she looks like. This picture just demonstrates that she’s always been this way.

“and it’s not sexist to portray them as they portray themselves.” I agree, provided it actually is how they portray themselves, I think we sometimes infer more than what they may intend.

I don’t begrudge Palin or any woman who uses her sex appeal to help to reach her goals. They are only playing the cards from the hand we dealt them. The training starts early, the cards are dealt early, if you act and feel attractive you will more likely be treated that way. If you don’t or worse, do the opposite, you will be shat upon in many subtle ways. It’s not narcissism when one merely accepts the training.

But be careful, if you over do it there will be hell to pay. It’s a fine line to walk and not everyone has good balance. And the line can require a quick turn.

No, it’s narcissism when it’s narcissism, and she’s a textbook example of NPD. If you’ve never known an averagely attractive woman with NPD, count yourself as lucky. I’ve not been so fortunate, having known at least 2 of them, and Sarah Palin fits their pattern to a T. There are also men with NPD, but with women, almost always one of the features is that they truly believe that they’re better looking than EVERYONE else; the fact that their clearly superior physical beauty somehow never translated into a successful modeling or acting career doesn’t seem to compute with them. Another feature is that they assume that everyone else, not just men but women as well, should recognize that they are the most beautiful specimen in the world and are therefore deserving of special treatment.

Never wrong, always wronged. Believes her superiority to others is so clearly apparent that everyone will just fall in line and give her the adulation she so clearly deserves. Even when that sense of superiority is built on a fictional vitae. Why? Well, just LOOK at her – she’s prettier than everyone else! It gets sadder as they get older and remain convinced that they’re hotter than the current crop of 20-year-olds, while the crutch they’ve relied on to support their utter conviction of their superiority grows less and less effective.

Yes, that’s armchair psychology, but it’s also true. Sarah Palin’s narcissism led her into politics rather than the other way around. Only a narcissist could be as un-self-aware as she has revealed herself to be on pretty much every occasion I can think of.

That Palin was too stupid to know that Couric wouldn’t lob her a bunch of sweetheart softballs is reason enough to be thankful that she didn’t get to be that 71-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency.

I look forward to your 8-part series on Couture of the Masses: Ed Hardy For Me, But Not For Thee.

T-shirts haven’t been “working class” since Marlon Brando and James Dean were sporting leather biker jackets and engineer boots. Next thing you know, you’ll be telling me that that denim jeans are the exclusive province of 49ers and gold-panners. Which is not to say that the rest of your little ‘power to the little people” diatribe wasn’t also full of crap.

You seem to be mistaking ‘class’ for ‘class-ism’. Tacky is tacky whether worn by snowtrash like Sarah Palin or high-end song screamer Christina Aguillera. Please see: PajamaJeans.

TBogg–you need to tell Firedoglake to install a like button for comments like this… In newsrooms, there really IS a phrase for going down on your interview subject…”blow job.” Yep.

I agree. She has a peculiar insecurity that causes her to identify herself with her state. I’m not able to clearly articulate it, but it’s a weird deflection – she feels stupid and insecure, but she internally denies it by convincing herself that, instead of thinking SHE’S the fool, her questioner is casting aspersions on her state of origin. I guess this allows her to cast her insecurity and resentment in a positive sense, as though she’s the defender of her entire state.

Please. No “Barbie” like epithet would stick to Hilary, because it doesn’t fit. It totally fits with Palin – she has presented herself as a Barbie-like creation. The reason these things remain so strong in popular culture is that they resonate with enough truth to do so.

Her lack of education is fair game because she holds it up as a virtue.

As for Tbogg using a private picture of her as a young women…well, you have a good point. However, I’m curious how the photo was released. Was it released by the Palin team, as an illustration of her supposed down-home goodness? If so – it’s fair game.

I am “working class”,
63, did not graduate college, and I sense, very strongly at times, that no one here at FDL cares what I have to say.

Of course, I am ALWAYS late for the post so that could account for it.
But then again maybe not…

Rice did at least have the intellectual heft to be put in the positions of National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.

I think Condi “How rude is it that when I ask Richard Clark who the ‘Al’ person he keeps droning on about is, he replies ‘Al Kay, duh!’?” Rice demonstrated early on that she actually did not have the intellectual heft.

~ Harry R. Sohl

Oh dear. Note to the unfamiliar, if any are still down here:

Shakira’s ass is a totem of worship in these parts, and we respect her because she is an interesting, talented person who appears to use her fame in part to contribute to global wellbeing. Palin’s tits are an object of ridicule in these parts, not because in themselves they are so bad but because she is a boring, stupid person who appears to use her fame largely to contribute to her own bank account.

Capiche? Vamoose.

There’s intellectual heft, and then there’s willful blindness. Pursuing Al Qaeda did not fit into the neocon project of reshaping the Middle East in their own image, so they ignored it. Condi knew what she was doing, and going after a few hit-and-run terrorists wasn’t part of the master plan.

So who would know if you’re a college grad? I do not understand your comment.

Hmmm…I wonder if there was a picture of Obama floating around the innertubes that had him wearing a T-shirt at 20 with a pic of Bob Marley or a phrase like “Burn It Down” or some other current cultural phrase or pic for that time…would the Right be using it for their messaging? Sure they would. Hell, they’re trying to make a video of a thoughtful and articulate 20YO speech in support of tenuring a law professor, proof of an act of terrorism.

No, the problem with the pic isn’t ‘sexism” or “working-class classicism” or any other nonsense. It captures Sarah Palin as she was then and as she still is now. The only difference is the packaging has been updated, but the message remains the same. She has always traded on her looks for political gain and the morons who vote Republican always value image over substance. See Ron Reagan, Bush the Dimmer, Herm Cain, Michelle Bachmann, and Joe T. Plumber for further corroboration on that point.

I couldn’t make it 30-seconds past Brando…

Problem is they are just ‘images’ and not realities. She has an ‘image’ of being a hunter, but isn’t. She has the ‘image’ of being a runner, but isn’t. She has the ‘image’ of being a human, but isn’t.

Sigh. The picture shows HER calvilier attitudes toward the very things that you are attacking others for mocking her about… What a complete fail…

Nope. As I’ve said before, in this thread even, that picture represents HER cavilier attitude toward the very things sixgill, and now you, are bemoaning.

“I may be broke, but at least I’m not flat-busted.”

Sure, when you’re in high school, that might pass for humor. But that’s how she conducted herself every day on the campaign trail. Simple-minded slogans like ‘REAL AMERICANS’ and her bullshit right-wing crap spewn out like it was free bumper-sticker day at Right Wing Clown College she decided to get them all…

And it goes to the core of the woman: She exploits her looks for power and is as unthinking and hurtful a person in the exercise thereof as can be…

No, sir, I am sorry to tell you.
Asking the potential leader of the free world what newspapers she reads is not a gotcha question of quietly nasty person.
Inquiring minds wanted to know what pailn read that would allow a 40 + year old women to remain so blindingly stupid.
That she watches Fox News was a given…..

And I think I recall that she would get back to us/Katie….Not yet, so far as I know….Absurd. Weird we are still talking about her not very talented self.

For me, right below the screenshot of Caribou Barbie is an ad that asks us to “Discover the magic of Alaska for yourself.” The magic of Alaska is that people like Palin can actually be considered potential presidential timber. Black magic, yes, but still…

I’m with you, actually. I don’t see anything wrong with a person wearing a silly t-shirt, I guess. Well, maybe I’m just not misogynist enough to be a Real Liberal.

Okay, you may not be a misogynist, but I’m guessing you were not a flat chested girl living across the hall either.

There is a photo of Obama as a young man smoking a cigarette which I have seen used frequently on right wing blogs.

Sixgill,

I’m having a real hard time working up much sympathy for Sarah regarding what you characterize as Sarah’s mistreatment by the “Left.”

Sarah set herself up by her self caricature as a “Hockey-Mom” and/or “Momma Grizzly.” I get the virtues she was trying to embrace by promoting this self image, but only an Air-head who has only gotten ahead in life because she is “Hot” would think this was enough to be Vice-President of the United States.

In addition to that, the appearance that she was too lazy to prep for interviews that were supposed to show case her abilities and qualifications to be Vice-President only served to re-enforce that Air-head image.

The one signature accomplishment in her life, being Governor of Alaska didn’t help her either. First, after she was elected, she refuses to take up residence in Juneau and then she had the nads to charge the State per-diem for staying home. Second, the only the only act as Governor that she seemed to pursue with vigor and energy was using the State Police to persecute her Bother-in-law, just like a “Junior High-School mean girl.” Finally when she was being called to account for these acts and the going started to get tough, she quits.

In my book Sarah has earned the image the Left uses to mock her. I dare you to show me a single prominent Liberal Woman who has earned the sexist treatment directed at her by the Right. Hell, the Right even went after Chelsea Clinton when she was only 15 years old just because she was Bill and Hillary’s daughter.

And in anticipation of your most likely reply to my post; No I do not suggest that the Right’s sexist treatment of women on left justifies similar behavior by the Left.

For the most part, male, Republican Politicians don’t use sex appeal to get votes. Plus, the only one that I can think of that could use sex appeal (Scott Brown) for most part keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t draw too much attention to himself.

1) Since when has Sarah ever been “working class”?

2) I live in a working class neighborhood, my son’s best friends are working class kids, I have been a youth sports coach to working class kids for about 12 years, so I have met and developed personal relationships with a lot working of working class kids and parents. In general they are not tacky.

Do not project your Classist BS onto us, you are the first person to bring up class on this thread.

What a sexist load of crap! I have been a working professional for over thirty years and I have seen dozens of sexy, attractive and competent (unlike Palin) women who didn’t use their Sex to get ahead, get pushed aside and passed-over, because of less able women who were willing to use sex to get ahead. I can only imagine how frustrating that must be for them.

What a load from soneone who claims to object to the unfair sexist abuse directed at Palin.

Re Chelsea Clinton: it was actually worse than you say; she was 12 when Limpballs first made the “White House dog” joke.

lets cut to the chase .. hey sixgull .. STFU .. :) if you don’t like the content here .. don’t click the button .. it’s really simple shit .. eh ??